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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:48 am

I'm off work on Monday, so I might go and see this then ... the review I read that said that it was a 2-hour movie utterly unnecessarily padded out to 2 hours 50 minutes was more than a little off-putting, though.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Sun Dec 16, 2012 11:41 pm

I hate every single one of you that has seen it.


Damn you Australia, damn you to Hell.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:49 am

Based off the overly defensive comments on Deadline from Tolkien/Jackson fans I am assuming this is as dull and the 48 fps as terrible looking as it is claimed to be.

Also I miss when Deadline had comments from people who knew what they were talking about but eh, c'est la vie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:14 am

Didn't end up seeing the midnight showing so I'll probably go tonight. I'm actually very interested in seeing how this 48fps looks, so yeah I'm willing to give that format a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:38 pm

Saw this in standard 3D on Friday night and came away a tad bit disappointed. There's way too much CGI, the 3D seemed dark and gets blurry when there's a lot happening onscreen, Jackson's direction is often times too flashy, it's poorly paced, the action is cartoonish and overall it's just too damn long of a movie. Even with all the problems, though, Jackson and (especially) Howard Shore were somehow able to bring a smile to my face and make Middle Earth come alive once again. It's a decently fun adventure, just don't go in expecting a LOTR-quality film. And see it in 2D.

I've never read the novel, but just by glancing at the Wikipedia summary of the story, I predict that the second and third films will be quite a bit better, just based on content alone.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:42 pm

Just got back from the 3D 48fps screening...

So, technical stuff first: It was very jarring during the first couple of seconds. I really did not know what to expect with this format, it can't be told but shown. My first reaction just based off the opening logos was "OH FUCK". laugh Then the actual 48fps shoot footage, "OH FFFFFFFUUUCK." I found it very distracting, but not as distracting as the group of teenagers around the corner that did nothing but chat and giggle to eachother for the first 30 mins, THAT excruciating! For many years I hear everyone complain about people chatting in theater, but I never had that experience until now. I wanted to rip their fucking heads off like a troll.

I'm rambling. Back to 48fps. Yeah, again it was very jarring for the first 15 minutes. I can definitely imagine a lot of film aficionados will hate it. But to be honest, I actually started to go along with it as the film went by. It would still hit me at some points but it never really killed the film for me. Most positive thing I can say about it is that it WORKS for 3D. Not sure if it would in normal 2D format, but it gets rid of a lot of problems previous 3D releases had. It seemed a lot more palpable in this frame rate. So yeah, if this is the future of 3D films then I'm all for that, but for normal 2D films I'll prefer the old fashioned 24fps thank you.

Worst to say about it? Not sure if it was right for THE HOBBIT. Might have been great for a sci-fi film with a very clean environment as opposed to an old Middle Earth adventure. For the next two films I'll likely just watch the 2D releases. Too bad it wasn't shot on film.

As for the movie itself? Well, I enjoyed it. The could have easily cut a lot of fat as some scenes just go on longer than they should, but overall I enjoyed it as an escapist fantasy that looked nice and colorful with Howard Shore enhancing the experience. This is no LOTR, but as dr strangelove says it's a decently fun adventure at its best.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Wed Dec 19, 2012 7:36 am

Saw it today, and while there are some changes to the story that I can't say I'm entirely happy about, nevertheless, it all pales into insignificance against the eye candy. Yeah, Kili is incredibly gorgeous, but he doesn't get a look in next to Thorin. Seriously. If Aragorn had looked like Thorin (like he was bloody supposed to, at least in every fantasy I ever had since I was 9), then I would have been a huge fan of the LOTR films instead of finding them tedious in the extreme.

Oh - and I've always disliked the Elves. Smug pointy-eared bastards with their poncy starlight and love of the sea.

Anyway - the film. Difficult. Parts were just a tourist advert for NZ, no doubt. Pretty, spectacular, blah blah - gimme more plot. Some of the plot messing was disappointing. Would be far better to start the whole thing with the immortal words, "In a hole in the ground, there lived a Hobbit....". And there are a couple of unnecessary unfunny 'gags', rather like the terrible 'dwarf tossing'. Really, Jackson. It ain't big, it ain't clever, and it ain't impressive.

The sword fights are good though, I will give 'em that. Although the escape from the goblins was a bit Super Mario with extra Goblin, it was amusing. Thorin's backstory - well, it gives me the opportunity to lust over the Sexiest Dwarf Ever, but still..... Ah well, to hell with it. Gives me a chance to lust over Thorin - I ain't gonna complain.

So - it's okay really. Yeah, I wanna see it again, but that's cus I'm a slut for Thorin. I really am that shallow. As a film, though - could have done with better pacing, less adverts, half the number of helicopters f'rinstance.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Tue Jan 01, 2013 11:27 am

Loved the movie, I loved it as did the kids.

Easily the most beautifull shot movie of the year, imho.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:51 am

I was expecting something pretty bad, but this was fairly fun and enjoyable. In the same league as LOTR, however? Not even close. Don't expect to see The Hobbit sweep up 11 Oscars. The story just doesn't have the emotional kick to it. I expect there'll be plenty of dry eyes once the third movie wraps up.

On that matter, it's disappointing that Jackson pretty much sold out and isn't making a serious attempt to adapt the book. It could've - and should've - been one movie. Instead we get filler, filler and more filler. And we'll have two more movies brimming with filler. But I guess Jackson's the one with the knighthood, not Tolkien. laugh

Oh yeah, the CGI was pretty horrid. Frankly there was way too much of it. The action was extremely cartoonish in comparison to much of the stuff in LOTR (though I guess it reflects the fact that the novel was intended for a younger demographic).

No standout performances, for me at least, though I'm impressed Christopher Lee is still on the job. Good on him.

I liked the main theme. Shades of Poledouris' Conan. Other than that, the score was fairly unremarkable and barely fresh. Much of it was recycled from LOTR, after all.

But anyway, complaints aside, it's entertaining enough. Just don't expect to see something that holds a candle to what Jackson achieved a decade ago.
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PostSubject: Re: The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey ::: Dec. 14th, 2012   Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:31 am

I found the long chase scene in the underground Orc (or were those Goblins) city too busy;

seeing it on the big IMAX screen, there was a few part on the screen that looks like needed more cleaning.
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