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PostSubject: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Wed Mar 16, 2011 9:58 am

This is a project that has intrigued me for a while. I've started a bit of it and plan on working with it on and off through the summer.

Concept: The merging of Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace into a single, continuous film. Not simply sticking the beginning of Quantum at the end of CR, but cutting between them to show Bond's past, present, and future.

What to expect:
-No title sequence. This is intended to set this film apart from the rest in the Bond canon. This isn't your dad's Bond film.
-Less M. She intrudes on events way too often in QOS and mothers too much in CR.
-Shorter action sequences, primarily in CR. QOS has short, abrupt sequences down to a science, but CR's set pieces drag on for too long. An unwelcome holdover from the Brosnan era.
-Bond is no longer a rookie agent

I'll post work in progress clips as time goes on. I'm interested, more specifically, at what you guys have to offer up as suggestions. I know a lot of you (Brown) aren't exactly fans of CR or QOS. Input for improvements and suggestions for changes would be greatly appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:22 pm

I'm at a loss for suggestions, but wanted to express my interest in this!

I still have your TWINE fan-edit on DVD, and it's the only way I will allow myself to watch the film.

I like watching CR and QoS in succession, since that's how they were made. Will there be any overlap at all, or will the films flow in the basic same order?

It is probably too ambitious, but the idea of putting one film inside another, almost as a series of flash forwards or flash backs might be cool.....
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:33 pm

The plan was to use CR as the story proper and QOS as a framing device of sorts. It'll go back and forth, but not suddenly and in pauses in action during both films. One thing I know for sure is Mathis's QOS entrance isn't coming until his CR exit.

I'm flattered you kept my TWINE cut, lalala.
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:10 pm

Tubes wrote:
The plan was to use CR as the story proper and QOS as a framing device of sorts. It'll go back and forth, but not suddenly and in pauses in action during both films. One thing I know for sure is Mathis's QOS entrance isn't coming until his CR exit.

That's a really, really cool idea. Sorta like Godfather Part II? We'd be seeing Bond dealing with the consequences of all these actions, not quite sure what's going on until we get the CR "flashback" that gets us up to speed in time -- with the mystery of Vesper being unresolved til the end.

Cut directly from the "she had a boyfriend, an Algerian" scene in CR to the QOS scene of Bond showing up at the guy's doorstep (which I think is the last scene in QOS?) but then still end with White on the island and "Bond, James Bond" cause that was a rockin' good ending.

You can keep the stuff about Bond being a new 00, but I agree with cutting down the action sequences in CR -- frakkin' chase scenes go on for days. And definitely don't emphasize the QOS "plot" (ie. Greene and so on) too much -- stick to Bond tracking down the Quantum organization and dealing with his anger/loss/whatever with CR scenes showing the catalysts. The Brazil (was it Brazil?) things weren't interesting and Greene was the lamest villain in ages (seriously, the fight between him and Bond? I was laughing my ass off).

But its a really cool idea, Tubes. Hope you actually finish it, unlike my "Chronological Back to the Future Trilogy" project.
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:11 pm

Wow, tubes, that sounds even better than I imagined it! Can't wait for this to happen :-)
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Sat Jun 11, 2011 6:19 am

This going anywhere? I must admit I was quite into this idea.
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:56 am

No real progress, as my computer was down for 3 weeks or so. That and I've been racking my brain as to how the 2 films should mix without either spoiling on another or leaving a long stretch without any cuts.

This was never going to be a project ready for the summer. I expected a polished version by November.

I'll post any updates as soon as they happen.
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PostSubject: Re: Risico: A Casino Royale and Quantum of Solace fan edit   Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:30 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EQKpEFO1YI
Quantum Of Solace Alternative Intro. Starts of with the gunbarrel and the end of Casino Royale and then the QOS maintitle.

Another Alternatieve:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROCg9oBkZec
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmistWyUtAU&feature=related

Mr White in to the chair after Time to go. Only the second part of the horse be it, this mean it take longer before you discover where there are. Personaly i prefer the original for a breath moment and the running horses.To have a breath momeny you need some over look and that be what i mis you look to this alturnatief. The maintitle starts after libery scene, then close face shot of daniel Craig then the original footage what happend after liberty scene.

In My opnion he better can have started the maintitle better after the original footage what happend after liberty scene followd by the picture he at. To have extented look to a empty chair/place with a couple of seconds. After the maintitles followsd by Inside Man.

Tubes, If you whant something to try, i like to see the maintitles before inside Man and at the first 10 of your project on youtube.
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