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Which Bond film has the best Pre-Title sequence? | From Russia With Love | | 5% | [ 1 ] | Goldfinger | | 20% | [ 4 ] | Thunderball | | 5% | [ 1 ] | You Only Live Twice | | 0% | [ 0 ] | On Her Majesty's Secret Service | | 10% | [ 2 ] | Diamonds Are Forever | | 15% | [ 3 ] | Live And Let Die | | 0% | [ 0 ] | The Man With The Golden Gun | | 5% | [ 1 ] | The Spy Who Loved Me | | 5% | [ 1 ] | Moonraker | | 0% | [ 0 ] | For Your Eyes Only | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Octopussy | | 5% | [ 1 ] | A View To A Kill | | 0% | [ 0 ] | The Living Daylights | | 5% | [ 1 ] | Licence To Kill | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Goldeneye | | 5% | [ 1 ] | Tomorrow Never Dies | | 5% | [ 1 ] | The World Is Not Enough | | 10% | [ 2 ] | Die Another Day | | 0% | [ 0 ] | Casino Royale | | 5% | [ 1 ] | Quantum Of Solace | | 0% | [ 0 ] |
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j7wild Head of Station
Posts : 2038 Member Since : 2011-09-10
| Subject: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 10:16 am | |
| I am surprised no one has posted this before.
We have a thread for rank this and rank that and poll this and poll that but not for the Pre-Title Sequences.
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Vote for one and then post and discuss why you chose it.
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p.s. sorry but you can only pick one.
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my choice will be OHMSS.
I think that was a fitting and proper and exciting introduction to the first EON James Bond not played by Sean Connery. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 10:23 am | |
| For me it's a tie between GE and CR pre-title sequences because of all of them they are flawless. I love the one for OHMSS, but Peter Hunt made the stupid decision of leaving in the outtake of Lazenby breaking character and the fourth wall. |
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j7wild Head of Station
Posts : 2038 Member Since : 2011-09-10
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 10:28 am | |
| I feel the CR PTS being shot in Black and White kind of took away from it.
It made the movie feel old and that's just my opinion.
It's like watching a flashback.
Was that PTS intended to be a flashback? |
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Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 00 Agent
Posts : 8477 Member Since : 2010-05-12 Location : Strawberry Fields
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 12:12 pm | |
| TWINE GF GE OHMSS FRWL TND QOS OP TLD TSWLM TB MR YOLT DAF TMWTGG FYEO DAD CR AVTAK LTK LALD
Something like that... |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 12:37 pm | |
| CR's pre-titles are pretty much perfect. Even after a hundred viewings (I'm sure), the cut from Dryden's office to Bond fighting Fischer always makes me jump.
I also like GE's pre-titles. I love the sequences that are almost stand-alone films in their own right, and GE does this almost perfectly.
As much as I dislike GF, the pre-titles are awesome, and possibly the best part of the film. They're really the prototype for what many films would try over the years, but never perfected until GE.
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On the other hand, I love FYEO ... but I think the pre-titles are pretty flat. Bond and Melina escaing Gonzalez's villa would be a better sequence. As it is, the whole thing feels unnecessary and clashes with the rest of the film. And then there's the delicatessen line.
TMWTGG is also at the bottom end of this list, because while I can describe everything that happens in every other pre-title sequence, I can't recall anything that happens in TMWTGG's sequence.
TND is also fairly hit-and-miss for me. EON knew they got it right with GE, and tried to repeat it for the Brozzer's second outing. But it lacked the sense of danger that was rife in GE's sequence; there was never any feeling that Bond could get caught and killed at any moment. But it was nice to see Geoffrey Palmer sparring with Judi Dench. |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5500 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 12:46 pm | |
| TND took Bond's newfound love for automatic weaponry to ridiculous levels. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5659 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: s Mon May 28, 2012 2:48 pm | |
| - CJB wrote:
- TND took Bond's newfound love for automatic weaponry to ridiculous levels.
It certainly did in the second half of the picture! I thought its PTS was pretty dam' good, though. Voted for Gun's PTS. Beautiful opening shot of Maud on the beach at Phuket and then the most bizarre opening line of just about any film: "Nick Nack, Tabasco!" Then that crazy funhouse. Great visuals, and beautifully shot. It's certainly the most unique PTS in the series. |
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lachesis Head of Station
Posts : 1588 Member Since : 2011-09-19 Location : Nottingahm, UK
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 4:10 pm | |
| Tricky question as soon ayou think oh it must be....you think of another, but on balance I plumped for The Living Daylights.
1. TLD 2. GF 3. OHMSS 4. GE 5. MR 6. TWINE 7. TB 8. FRWL 9. LTK 10. TSWLM 11. YOLT 12. TND 13. QoS 14. OP 15. DAD 16. AVTAK 17. DAF 18. CR 19. TMWTGG 20. FYEO 21. LALD |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 5:14 pm | |
| - j7wild wrote:
- I feel the CR PTS being shot in Black and White kind of took away from it.
It made the movie feel old and that's just my opinion.
It's like watching a flashback.
Was that PTS intended to be a flashback? They were going for a film noir look. I see TWINE is now the highest ranked. If it had been only the bank job, I might rank it higher, but the boat chase is is a pointless rehash of earlier Roger Moore boat chases and the whole set up makes no sense. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5659 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:12 pm | |
| Agreed, MP. The interminable boat chase really lowers TWINE's PTS to my mind. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:25 pm | |
| Yup and continues the bad trend of the Brosnan flicks having the PTS go on longer than necessary. It's worse too since all the MI6 scenes got cut to hell for timing (although that big breasted women remark by M was an awful attempt of the making the flick self aware) |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:39 pm | |
| DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER TWINE's PTS is awful, in my opinion. Boring and ridiculous. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:43 pm | |
| The confrontation with Blofeld should have gone a bit longer I think, it feels anticlimatic the way it ends so quickly. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| I think the main point was to show that Connery was back and down to business. The bikini bit was classic.
100% successful, in my opinion.
CASINO ROYALE's PTS was arguably the best scene in the entire film. |
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j7wild Head of Station
Posts : 2038 Member Since : 2011-09-10
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| Who voted for TWINE's PTS?
What a waste of a fine Italian woman! |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 6:49 pm | |
| Didn't Michael Jackson play "Cigar Girl" in the TWINE PTS? |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 7:11 pm | |
| Wow very good point j7wild, he didn't even bang her either. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5659 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: w Mon May 28, 2012 7:29 pm | |
| - Control wrote:
- Didn't Michael Jackson play "Cigar Girl" in the TWINE PTS?
He was in the running, but lost out to Monica Lewinsky. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5659 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: s Mon May 28, 2012 7:30 pm | |
| - Control wrote:
- DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER
TWINE's PTS is awful, in my opinion. Boring and ridiculous. DAF's PTS was weird, macabre and gruesome. As such, it effectively prefigured the film to come. |
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hegottheboot Head of Station
Posts : 1758 Member Since : 2012-01-08 Location : TN, USA
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 8:06 pm | |
| OHMSS. The most Bondian moment in all the film series. The world immediately becomes painfully real, with the Univex name on an official sign on a London street displaying the all too real covert nature of the job. Then we cut to a frustrated M attempting to reason where in the hell his best agent has gone off to. Moneypenny displays all of the resources of MI6 that are totally useless in tracking down 007, and Q's hawking of radioactive lint just underlines the absolute ridiculousness of gadgetry. Then with M's last line there is a perfect cut to the frustrated roar of an Aston Martin with tires squealing out of a Portugal city at dawn. John Barry's score rises up with a never before heard low brassy quality that reassures you that this time it's for real. The pure Fleming moment of a disaffected Bond being passed at speed by Tracy is perfectly handled, and then we get everything we need to know by Bond simply murmuring to himself. The setup, cinematography, color, scoring, pacing, editing, lighting, performances, fight choreography is superb. I've always loved this entire sequence and there is no other moment that better displays 007. Hunt knew exactly how to work the character and this is one of those moments where Lazenby outdoes even Connery. You could frame moments from this PTS on your wall.
Rough estimate of the rest: 1.OHMSS Goldfinger TSWLM TB TLD FRWL YOLT MR DN GE LALD TMWTGG DAF AVTAK FYEO LTK OP-too dull. DAD TWINE-too long. TND-boring, overdone, too simplistic, and rather dull. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Mon May 28, 2012 8:36 pm | |
| DN didn't have a PTS, and where would CR and QOS PTS rank? |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5500 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Tue May 29, 2012 12:34 am | |
| Can't be arsed ranking all of them but my favourite ones are probably GF, OHMSS, TLD & GE.
I reckon we need another PTS with Bond on a military-esque mission a la TLD & GE (granted, the former was merely a training exercise initially). |
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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3372 Member Since : 2011-03-28 Location : I know........I know
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Tue May 29, 2012 12:42 am | |
| Couldn't vote, mine's a 4-way tie between Moonraker, FYEO, Octopussy and TLD.
Brozzayawn's TWINE gets an honourable mention.
Craig better deliver an action packed pre-title this time...Solace was a downright disappointment... |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Tue May 29, 2012 12:56 am | |
| DAF GF TB TLD FRWL MR CR OHMSS YOLT TMWTGG
TSWLM OP FYEO AVTAK GE LTK LALD DAD TND TWINE QOS |
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j7wild Head of Station
Posts : 2038 Member Since : 2011-09-10
| Subject: Re: Rank the Pre-Title Sequences Tue May 29, 2012 1:14 am | |
| I am surprised that TSWLM and DAD (I know there are a couple of members here who thinks DAD is the best Bond film ever) didn't get a single vote. - hegottheboot wrote:
- OHMSS. The most Bondian moment in all the film series. The world immediately becomes painfully real, with the Univex name on an official sign on a London street displaying the all too real covert nature of the job. Then we cut to a frustrated M attempting to reason where in the hell his best agent has gone off to. Moneypenny displays all of the resources of MI6 that are totally useless in tracking down 007, and Q's hawking of radioactive lint just underlines the absolute ridiculousness of gadgetry. Then with M's last line there is a perfect cut to the frustrated roar of an Aston Martin with tires squealing out of a Portugal city at dawn. John Barry's score rises up with a never before heard low brassy quality that reassures you that this time it's for real.
The pure Fleming moment of a disaffected Bond being passed at speed by Tracy is perfectly handled, and then we get everything we need to know by Bond simply murmuring to himself. The setup, cinematography, color, scoring, pacing, editing, lighting, performances, fight choreography is superb. I've always loved this entire sequence and there is no other moment that better displays 007. Hunt knew exactly how to work the character and this is one of those moments where Lazenby outdoes even Connery. You could frame moments from this PTS on your wall.
I couldn't have said it better myself. Imagine what direction the Bond film franchise would had taken if Lazenby came back to make 4-5 more Bond films. I think the franchise would had went straight to Dalton in 1981 (4 films for Lazenby) or 1983 (5 films for Lazenby), skipping Connery's one film come back and totally skipping Moore. It would have been awesome!! Saltzman and Broccoli really screw the pooch!! |
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