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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:46 pm

VOY: "Life Line"

I actually really enjoyed this one. And it really says something about this show when Troi is a bright spot. Sirtis came a long way, I have to say. She seems more competent than anyone on Voyager save the Doc. It just made me wish Q would snap his fingers and put the TNG crew on Voyager. Even Wesley.

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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 12:56 pm

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Fury is about as pure a piece of character assasination as I've ever seen. I can't believe the actors agreed to perform in it.

I look forward to ripping it to pieces.

And it's got one of the dumbest gimmicks with the inability to change course during warp speed, WHICH WAS DONE IN ALL THE SHOWS INCLUDING VOYAGER. Seriously, how did this script get a pass?!? It's incredibly stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:00 pm

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Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:
Fury is about as pure a piece of character assasination as I've ever seen. I can't believe the actors agreed to perform in it.

I look forward to ripping it to pieces.

And it's got one of the dumbest gimmicks with the inability to change course during warp speed, WHICH WAS DONE IN ALL THE SHOWS INCLUDING VOYAGER. Seriously, how did this script get a pass?!? It's incredibly stupid.

There was a S4 episode of MAD MEN when Pete and Ken Cosgrove are eating lunch together. Cosgrove said of the company that bought out Sterling Cooper, and I paraphrase, "My mom was a nurse at a mental hospital in Vermont, and that's the only other time I've seen so many retarded people in one building." Pete then laughed hysterically. Of course, so did I. But I'm an asshole too, just not a rapist.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:13 pm

Watching HAUNTING. Jesus.

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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 1:43 pm

VOY: "The Haunting of Deck Twelve"

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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 2:57 pm

VOY: "Unimatrix Zero"

I was entertained, but the cliffhanger was a yawn. Most underwhelming Trek cliffhanger I've seen since ENT's "Shockwave".
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:00 pm

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VOY: "The Haunting of Deck Twelve"

fuck

Now you know my pain.

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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:02 am

VOY: "Unimatrix Zero, Part II"

I actually think it's got some interesting ideas, I think it uses the Borg well, and I actually like the Borg Queen. But the episode itself has very little tension.

I've always been up in the air about the Borg Queen. Yeah, they should be a collective with no individuals, but I can see the logic in having the Queen. And of course it's useful for dramatic purposes. Though it could have been cool to simply see a series of Borg... liasons to the TNG/VOY characters. LIke, the Collective could suddenly turn one drone into a voice for the whole Collective, and they could go from drone to drone.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:24 am

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VOY: "The Haunting of Deck Twelve"

fuck

Indeed.

Once I liked the episode, now like most of this series it dies a slow death. Might've been been easier if the ship blew up.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 4:34 am

VOY: "Imperfection"

Neither here nor there for me. They probably shouldn't have this right after another Borg episode, though. Thank goodness the Borg Brats are gone.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 5:26 am

VOY: "Drive"

Another episode that I'm simply indifferent to.

Though I liked the part where the Doctor puts a fork in Neelix's eye.

So we're sure Voyager is in fact in the Beta Quadrant?
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 6:46 am

VOY: "Repression"

So, for about 6 years the Voyager has carried as members of it's crew former terrorists who have fallen in line under Janeway's thumb. Now the writers actually use the Maquis angle. Chakotay and his Maquis crew take over Voyager, something that would have been neat in season 1, but it's not really him doing it. It's not really because he stands for any principals. It's cuz his mind is being controlled. On his own, after Janeway extracted his balls, Chakotay is harmless.


And who in the 24th century is watching bad 50's monster movies?


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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 7:37 am

VOY: "Critical Care"

A decent episode. Nice to see Larry Drake and Gregory Itzin.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 8:21 am

VOY: "Inside Man"

Perhaps farcical, but I greatly enjoyed it. And nice to see Troi again. I had thought she'd only appeared in one episode of VOYAGER, not three.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 9:37 am

VOY: "Body and Soul"

I was entertained. Jeri Ryan does a good Doctor.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:32 am

VOY: "Nightingale"

I liked this episode, though really for the Harry plot as opposed to the rather dopey Icheb subplot. I thought they used Harry quite well here, and I imagine Garrett Wang was very happy when he read this script. Janeway's kind of a dick for not promoting him after all this time.

Surreal to see Ron Glass on Trek.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:42 am

Really are zipping through it bubba.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:49 am

To what feels my shame and thus a confessional, I decided to read the ENT novel Kobayashi Maru this past week. Ol' Bongster roundly bashed the first of these 'Trip didn't die in These Are the Voyages and Works as Section 31's man on Romulus' novels on the old forum. I read with a view to kickstarting some Romulan War nonsense (yes, I too have fanciful flights of Trek fancy) and in a way the novel's fine enough. Were it not for the odd cursing which seems out of place in a Trek novel even ENT (Archer's WTF for example), there's a gay Klingon (Krell from the augment/virus episodes), the Maru herself, the Horizon freighter leaving the Chicago mob book behind on Sigma Iotia and so on and so on.

I'm coming round to Bong's way of thinking on ENT which surprises me considering how it left me cold early on. I half wish it'd come back somehow and in the form it ended (Terra Prime not that monstrosity it did end on).

Come on, not like the cast is really doing anything.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 10:51 am



deep space will never be the same again
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:55 pm

TATV.... never occured.

VOY: "Flesh and Blood"

Well, I'm surprised. I thought it was really damn good. I was expecting another "Dark Frontier" shitfest.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:20 pm

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So we're sure Voyager is in fact in the Beta Quadrant?

Yeah, from about midway in season 6, I think. The writers/producers had no clue, but Mike Okuda and the rest of the technical staff definitely did -- on a screen in Stellar Cartography in S7 there's a map showing Voyager's "progress" and then planned course. The current location of Voyager is shown as almost in the Beta Quadrant -- but the map has a stardate listing for the first third of sixth season -- which is accurate to that time, in fact, but not the seventh season episodes the map was appearing in.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:44 pm

VOY: "Shattered"

So... Janeway knew everything that would happen for the next seven years before she even went to the Badlands?



What the fuck? Mike Sussman is partly to blame for this episode and that HAUNTING piece of crap. I thought I liked him based on his later ENTERPRISE output.

This show offically takes place in the "These Are the Voyages..." alternate universe... along with the 2387 business in nuTrek. I piss on this universe.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 1:51 pm

Prime Universe
-ENT
-TOS
-TNG
-DS9
-Films I-X (certain films are debatable)

Crap Universe
-"These Are the Voyages..."
-Star Trek: Voyager
-Star Trek: The Adventures of Jimmy Kirk

Hobo Universe
-The Adventures of Hobo Riker

I'd like to see a crossover between the Hobo and Crap Universes. Perhaps, trying to evade the Borg, Hobo Riker leads them through a rift into the Crap Universe around 2259 and everyone dies except Hobo Riker.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:32 pm

VOY: "Lineage"

I liked it fairly well. Meh.
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PostSubject: Re: The Star Trek Thread, 3.0   Sun Jun 24, 2012 3:15 pm

VOY: "Repentance"

One more episode closer to freedom.
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