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PostSubject: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:46 am

I think whether or not the decision is made to "reboot" the series after TDKR may depend upon, to some degree, the reaction that THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN gets. If audiences turn on TAS-M because it was rebooted/remade too soon, then perhaps it would be best to bring Batman 4 to the screen with a new cast but keep the same storyline continuity going.

And that's assuming that Bale truly won't return (I'm doubly assuming that Bruce Wayne is alive at the end of the movie and that Bale may reconsider and come back in a non-Nolan directed Bat-film).

If Bale doesn't want to come back, I can't think of anyone off hand to take over the role, but I do have a couple of gonzo casting choices for other roles:

Jim Parsons as Edward Nygma/The Riddler

Amy Sedaris as Dr. Harleen Quinzel/Harley Quinn

Ricky Gervais as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin

Michael Fassbender as Victor Friesz
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:36 am

I read somewhere that in the next Batman film, Nolan wants to bring back Robin. Another character to possibly cast.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:25 pm

It was already announced that Batman would be rebooted after THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, and that Christopher Nolan would be on board as producer, helping to pick his successor.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 1:43 pm

Yup ^^

He's writing it too!
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:27 pm

FieldsMan wrote:
He's writing it too!

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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:10 pm

I don't think he's writing it as much as he is supervising the writing of it. Kinda like he did with MAN OF STEEL.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:32 pm

It was only in 2005 that the Batman franchise was last rebooted, why does it need doing again?

I hate this current trend for reboots because, although neccesary on occasion, they tend to take away a series credibility IMO and shows that modern day producers are incabable of continuing a series beyond three or four films without the crutch of an 'origins' story with the hero 'discovering himself' :roll:

One of the many reasons that I love the James Bond franchise is due to the fact that from all the way back in 1953 when it first began, both the films and the books were relatively standalone adventures in a floating timeline with Bond, aswell as Felix Leiter and the team up at MI6 (M, Q, Miss Moneypenny, Bill Tanner etc) being the one constant link (with the obvious exceptios being 'Casino Royale' (2006), 'Devil May Care' and 'Carte Blanche').
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:43 pm

I think Nolan has lot of investment in these films and wants his Batman trilogy to be a standalone, separate entity, free of the baggage further sequels might attach to them.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:21 pm

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I think Nolan has lot of investment in these films and wants his Batman trilogy to be a standalone, separate entity, free of the baggage further sequels might attach to them.

Understandable but again, look at the James Bond franchise, the first five Bond films are always held in the highest regard by the general public although every now and again another Bond film comes along which the general public adore e.g. TSWLM, GE, CR
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:31 pm

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It was already announced that Batman would be rebooted after THE DARK KNIGHT RISES, and that Christopher Nolan would be on board as producer, helping to pick his successor.

Odds favor his brother, Johnathan Nolan, to direct the next Batman movie.

I'm hoping that the term "reboot" is being used in a general sense to mean that the movie will get a transfusion of fresh creative talent, and maybe some new cast members, but we DO NOT NEED A NEW ORIGIN STORY. Been there, done that. It's played out. You have a basis for future Batman movies; you don't need to start all over. Bale will come back if the behind-the-camera talent is good and the paycheck is right. And if you can't get him, he can be replaced.

The only other versions of Batman that I would consider seeing right now are a Justice League movie or a Batman Beyond type scenario. Other than that, they need to stick with the current Batman timeline. Just because Christopher doesn't want to direct doesn't mean others can't step in and take over. Just don't make the mistakes that Joel Schumacher did. Honor the fans and the original material, work from the template that Christopher created, and let's keep moving forward. I see no reason to "reboot" an entire series all over again. It's getting old, tired, and lame. Tracking for THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN is, according to Deadline Hollywood, "flat". Let that be a warning to WB.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Sun Jul 01, 2012 6:55 pm

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I'm hoping that the term "reboot" is being used in a general sense to mean that the movie will get a transfusion of fresh creative talent, and maybe some new cast members, but we DO NOT NEED A NEW ORIGIN STORY.
I don't think it will be a new origin story, but it won't be set in Nolan's Batman universe. It'll have the same relationship to the Nolan/Bale films as does Tim Burton's Batfilms.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Just because Christopher doesn't want to direct doesn't mean others can't step in and take over.
I think the reason Nolan is shepherding the reboot is that he doesn't want others to take over, either. He views THE DARK KNIGHT RISES as the end of his Batman, and he doesn't want to hand his Batman over to anybody else. Which is understandable, really.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:13 am

I'd do the Hush story. Hush and Bruce Wayne are childhood friends, and it would be a way to have Batman's origins be a part of the story without being the central focus like in BEGINS. You might not need even need a second villain, and in fact it would be refreshing to have another Batman movie with only one villain. You could always throw assorted gangsters into the mix. Actually, Batman taking down the mafia would be the appropriate focus until Hush shows up.

So that's (stand-in title) BATMAN: HUSH.

BATMAN 2 could be what I call in my head RIDDLER'S GAME (after RIPLEY'S GAME, but no relation storywise). It would be really cool to see a good Riddler, unlike the animated retard played by Jim Carrey. I don't know who I'd cast as the Riddler, but it's the part I've always wanted to play. :p And it would be cool to get the Sarah Essen/Jim Gordon story. Make her FBI, bringing in her badass team to capture the Batman.

I'd probably have Oswald Cobblepot be a recurring character in both. Not a villain, but an information source.

Only casting I can say would perhaps be Bryan Cranston as Gordon, but he's getting up there. Maybe he'd just start as Commissioner.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Mon Jul 16, 2012 10:40 am

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Batman begins is Spider-Man 2 of the franchise but with better effects and not having that return of the villian the whole time.

Highlight of TDK are some remembers to Batman include the part of Gary Oldman. Joker whas over-rated because of the death of the actor but better then expect.

Screentime is the biggest problem of the movie and Batman feels not like Batman. Not having Katie Holmes made Maggie Gylenhaal her part worse whyle it isn't her fault.

Harry Potter 2 is 162 minutes and if TDKR fix the problems of TDK (Who is Boring/dificult to follow story/to dark/missing 1 or 2 action scene's and more humor.) then the also the 164 minutes should not be a problem. But it have been better if TDKR have been even long like Batman Begins.

I whas happy there not yuse a earlier yused villian for Begins.

Batman Begins be better with
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that going to be yused for TDKR what i hope it mean wil help to like that more then TDK include what be left from TDK.

On this moment i hope there wil not be another Batman franchise again but a 4th movie with the promised Riddle or/and better Return of The Joker with his assistent.

But iam afraid it wil be reboot, there is already imdb page and Darren Aronofsky as remour directer. IF that be the case i hope on the riddle, the only exeption of a earlier yused villian i don't mind if it not be villian in the first place.

Casting:



Matthew Goode http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0328828/ as The Riddle

Drew Barrymore as Harley Quinn

John Cena http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1078479/ as The Joker. First iam thinking about Marc Whalberg as best follow up.

That the original actor of the joker past a way should not mean the Return of the Joker should be canceld and i think it is flaw of the Nolan franchise there don't consider a 4th movie. There should be somewhere unyused TDK footage what can be yused too.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:55 pm

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
, but we DO NOT NEED A NEW ORIGIN STORY. Been there, done that. It's played out. You have a basis for future Batman movies; you don't need to start all over.

This is the most important aspect imho, the film needs to place trust in the audience and just hit the ground running. Some continuity might be nice but is for me entirely secondary to simply getting a solid and wholeheartedly new story onto film. I would also be receptive to a 'Batman of the near future' inspired by Bruce Wayne's original efforts etc, in which case an entirely different origin story presents itself.
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PostSubject: Re: [POTENTIAL TDKR SPOILERS] Batman Reboot (2015)   Mon Jul 16, 2012 3:52 pm

John Cena is The Joker.
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