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PostSubject: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Mon Oct 01, 2012 12:04 pm

I'm an unabashed fan of Park's work. As far as I'm concerned, he's one of the most exciting directors working today. (I know others here are less enthusiastic.)

Park has a new film coming in March 2013, his first English-language feature film, with Nicole Kidman, Mia Wasikowska, and Matthew Goode.

Here's the trailer:

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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Tue Oct 02, 2012 4:10 am

Looks like more sadistic, nihilistic, sensationalist tosh from a man who's never experienced violence first-hand.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:17 am

If experiencing violence is a requisite for making worthwhile art about it, then Hitchcock's body of work is worthless.

And, as far as I'm concerned, sensationalism, when it comes to cinema, is almost never a bad word. (Unless it's journalistic cinema, of course.)
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:27 am

With the exception of FRENZY, the violence in Hitchcock's cinema was rarely ever gratuitous, which is what I'm talking about. Not implied violence.

And yes I think sensationalism, the desire to shock, and synthetic theatrics can harm a film. BLACK SWAN is a good recent example, as is the Millennium Trilogy in literature and Lady Gaga in pop.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:07 am

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With the exception of FRENZY, the violence in Hitchcock's cinema was rarely ever gratuitous, which is what I'm talking about. Not implied violence.
Much of the violence in Hitch goes beyond implication.

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And yes I think sensationalism, the desire to shock, and synthetic theatrics can harm a film.
What do you mean by sensationalism, then? And the desire to shock isn't always all bad. As a fan of De Palma, you certainly must acknowledge that much. I dislike stunt cinema in general, at least when it displays contempt for the audience--hence my avowed rejection of Von Trier's films--but I don't think Park's cinema is motivated in the same way as Von Trier or, say, Tarantino. And all theatrics, good or bad, are synthetic.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Wed Oct 03, 2012 4:08 am

Sorry, Harms, this trailer is flat-out boring. OLDBOY is a very fine film, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Wed Oct 03, 2012 8:56 am

Unwatchable simply due to Kidman's grotesquely plastic face.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:22 am

I saw the trailer a few days ago and thought that it could be something interesting. Haven't seen the director's other films, but this seems intriguing enough for me to want to check out his other movies.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:00 pm

Boring, Loomis? Ah well. Can't win 'em all, I suppose.

I find a lot to like here, from the oddly-pitched performances to the Gothic atmosphere to the nod toward SHADOW OF A DOUBT to those surreal Chan-Wook Park touches (that telephone box scene, in particular). But I am a Park fanboy.

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Haven't seen the director's other films, but this seems intriguing enough for me to want to check out his other movies.
OLDBOY is by far Park's best film. Be warned, though, it's pretty brutal.
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PostSubject: Re: Stoker (2013, dir. Chan-Wook Park)   Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:06 pm

There's a pretty film school major shot at 2:11 with the simultaneous reference to both STRANGERS ON A TRAIN and PSYCHO.
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