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What did you think of Adele's song?
Excellent (ranks among the best)
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Very good (ranks among the upper echelon)
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Good/Average (ranks among the middle of the pack)
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Fair/Below Average (ranks among the lower tier of songs)
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:35 am

The song's alright. Wouldn't rank very high in my ranking of the Bond songs, but it wouldn't be all the way at the bottom, either.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:36 am

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
I like it. It sounds like an old-school theme without being a pastiche; it has its own sound. I also like the way it's not really about anything at all, and the film title is thrown into the lyrics, even though it makes no sense. It reminds me of all the times other title performers have had their hands bound by awkward and clumsy titles, but worked with them anyway - like "Meeting you, with a view to a kill.".

Thought of that too. Like how "GoldenEye" and "Moonraker" have nothing to do with the rest of the lyrics.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:42 am

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I saw one site call the song a mix of DAF and TWINE.

I don't really hear TWINE in it, and I like to think I've got a good ear.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 10:56 am

Mix between Moonraker and Goldeneye, but just not as exciting as both of those. Still, much better than AWTD, and I can't wait to see it with the titles.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:24 am

Adelle's vocals are great. The opening piano solo works great.

Sadly, I stand by my original impression that the lyrics are flat. Probably the flattest in the series. Even a lot of the shittier Bond themes have one phrase that stays with you. Not one here stood out to me.

Adelle's vocals elevate it but sadly her song writing talents are not on par with her vocal ability. Firmly in the middle of the pack, and I'd say it's less interesting than some of the bad ones.


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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:31 am

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Adelle's [...] song writing talents are not on par with her vocal ability.

This. That said, while it's not as striking, experimental or cutting edge as DAD, the melody/vocals have got a soul that's been absent from Bond themes for a long time
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 11:55 am

According to Billboard magazine,, Adele's 'Rolling in the deep' was 2011's most downloaded single, with a grand total of 5.6 million downloads on digital music services (with the majority of that being iTunes). I'm sure Skyfall will cross 1 million soon....

Skyfall is already ranking at #8 on her singles sales...
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:10 pm

Largo's Shark wrote:
The White Tuxedo wrote:
I saw one site call the song a mix of DAF and TWINE.

I don't really hear TWINE in it, and I like to think I've got a good ear.

I'm just repeating what I saw on a site. laugh
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:23 pm

I guess no one ever went broke underestimating people's taste for "classic Bond". But I don't know why they didn't simply get Bassey back.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:33 pm

Loomis wrote:
But I don't know why they didn't simply get Bassey back.
No doubt they had their reasons. For one, Adele is far more likely to sell singles than Bassey is. And secondly, getting Bassey back would be little more than fan-service to celebrate th anniversary, and we all know what happened last time EON did that ...
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:33 pm

Loomis wrote:
I guess no one ever went broke underestimating people's taste for "classic Bond". But I don't know why they didn't simply get Bassey back.

Adele is my favorite thing about the song. And I don't like the idea of going the Bassey route. Bond has to move on.

I like the song pretty well. It has a Bondian sound without being an awful wannabe-Goldfinger. I just think the song could use just a tiny bit more "oomph" in places.

Speaking of "oomph", I'd like to give Adele some "oomph" in places.
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PostSubject: q   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:48 pm

It's a unique Bond tune. It sounds archetypally Bondian without sounding like any particular tune that's gone before it.

Also, while one might give SF low marks for originality based upon reliance on the Bond theme, that reliance disappears after the first quarter of the song. So I rate this one fairly high in the originality department.

And what can I say about Adele? I didn't realize vocal talent like that still existed. She's a spark of brilliance and beauty in our tenebrous age. I doubt Bassey could have done as well, and I'm a tremendous admirer of Bassey.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:55 pm

Perilagu Khan wrote:
And what can I say about Adele? I didn't realize vocal talent like that still existed. She's a spark of brilliance and beauty in our tenebrous age. I doubt Bassey could have done as well, and I'm a tremendous admirer of Bassey.

I listened to "No Good About Goodbye" and "Skyfall" back to back. I just don't think Bassey would have fit "Skyfall". Bassey to me is more show, Adele more soul.

Yeah, the lyrics are a bit flat, but I like them well enough. "I like the "stand together" part. And Adele sells the hell out of it. Wish they'd given Don Black a ring, though.


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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 12:56 pm

The White Tuxedo wrote:
Loomis wrote:
I guess no one ever went broke underestimating people's taste for "classic Bond". But I don't know why they didn't simply get Bassey back.

Adele is my favorite thing about the song. And I don't like the idea of going the Bassey route. Bond has to move on.

I like the song pretty well. It has a Bondian sound without being an awful wannabe-Goldfinger. I just think the song could use just a tiny bit more "oomph" in places.

Speaking of "oomph", I'd like to give Adele some "oomph" in places.

I agree with it needing more "oomph". Kind of seems a little too laid back. I do like the song however. It is definitely one of the better theme songs for the series since 1995. Much better than the crap we were subjected to with DAD and QOS.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:00 pm

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The White Tuxedo wrote:
Loomis wrote:
I guess no one ever went broke underestimating people's taste for "classic Bond". But I don't know why they didn't simply get Bassey back.

Adele is my favorite thing about the song. And I don't like the idea of going the Bassey route. Bond has to move on.

I like the song pretty well. It has a Bondian sound without being an awful wannabe-Goldfinger. I just think the song could use just a tiny bit more "oomph" in places.

Speaking of "oomph", I'd like to give Adele some "oomph" in places.

I agree with it needing more "oomph". Kind of seems a little too laid back. I do like the song however. It is definitely one of the better theme songs for the series since 1995. Much better than the crap we were subjected to with DAD and QOS.

I'd say it's my favorite Bond song since GE. The only real competition is "You Know My Name". It has better lyrics and goes for it's target more aggressively than SF, but I like the mood of SF a lot more.

For the record, I like TWINE okay, find TND servicable, think DAD sounds like a damned car alarm, and I'd say "Another Way to Die" is... I don't know what to say about it.


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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:01 pm

I'd love to hear a decent remix.

Meanwhile, 2/3rds of Guardian musos readers appear to hate it.

Here's a sample of negative comments:

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Dire, X-Factoresque drivel.
Bjork or someone with a remotely interesting voice would have been nice, but the masses just want an artless belter.

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This is utter shit. I was utterly bored after 2 minutes and I was waiting for the big breakout and it just kept going exactly the same, with the inane lyrics and dreary melody.
Isn't she meant to be one of the greatest singer/songwriters ever? Yeah right, a couple of big selling albums and she's being compared to all manner of greats, what a disgrace.
And I totally agree with DusterUK, 'You Know My Name' is a really good tune, full of emotion and kicks along at a great pace.
This is just dreary crap which having heard it will make me go and get my popcorn and drinks whilst it's on. Thank you at least for that insight so I don't waste time queuing before the film.

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Who the hell cares? I wish Bond would just disappear along with the British Empire. What on Earth is the Guardian doing? Pathetic.

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Just makes you wish Shirley B from Tiger bay was doing this thing, it certainly exposes adele for the lightweight she is, vocally and musically speaking...is...

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It's bloated... heavy... over-hyped. Impregnated with smarm. And the song sucks big time, also.



Just be grateful Justno Beaver isn't British and was given the gig.

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Crumbs....really boring no effort spent in composing that was there. Was it done in just one key ? Just sounds like a draft version of diamonds are forever.

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'Crumble' is simply a terrible word to have in a dramatic song; to have it in the chorus, where it's both prominent and repeated, is disastrous.



And the backing vocals are really bad. (And the backing vocals are really bad).

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The function of film background music is to set a mood for the screen action but, itself, it should be completely "invisible". On that basis, this succeeds perfectly. No fault to Adele it's just a very weak, uninspired song which barely scrapes in as adequate because of a vaguely-Bondish modality.

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Generic pap. Incredibly meh.
I have to stick up for Jack White and Alicia Keys though. I thought Another Way To Die was pretty bad-ass. I second the opinion that Muse would have been a better choice.

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This is the first time I've heard Adele sing. I'm absolutely blown away at how mediocre and lifeless and bored she sounds.

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It makes Madonna's attempt sound classy!

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sounds like a fat amy winehouse. be honest.

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Let the skyfow
When it crumbows
We will stand tow
Terribow.
This truly, truly dreadfow.
Horribow.
Frightfow.

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Irritating from the very first couplet..."End" does not rhyme with "Ten".

It goes on... trying to rhyme "then" with "again", "end" with "moment" and "then" with "stolen".
lazy, lazy....

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It doesn't have that wow factor, the lyrics are terrible, this is beneath what both Adele and Bond got us used to... truly unremarkable.
And when she sings SKYFALL, change it for SCAFFOLD: tragically hilarious.

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Fucking loved it until I read all the comments. Now I hate it just like everyone else. In fact it's so bad, it's put me off music altogether.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/poll/2012/oct/05/skyfall-adele-bond?commentpage=3#start-of-comments
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:06 pm

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Let the skyfow
When it crumbows
We will stand tow
Terribow.
This truly, truly dreadfow.
Horribow.
Frightfow.

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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:07 pm

Best since GE, easily.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:11 pm

I believe trevanian mentioned this somewhere else, but one major issue with this song is that the instrumentation seems to overpower the vocals. The instruments sound flat, too. Maybe this will be corrected in the film?
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:12 pm

I hope it's a totally different mix.
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PostSubject: a   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:12 pm

Largo's Shark wrote:
I'd love to hear a decent remix.

Meanwhile, 2/3rds of Guardian musos readers appear to hate it.

Here's a sample of negative comments:

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Dire, X-Factoresque drivel.
Bjork or someone with a remotely interesting voice would have been nice, but the masses just want an artless belter.

Quote :
This is utter shit. I was utterly bored after 2 minutes and I was waiting for the big breakout and it just kept going exactly the same, with the inane lyrics and dreary melody.
Isn't she meant to be one of the greatest singer/songwriters ever? Yeah right, a couple of big selling albums and she's being compared to all manner of greats, what a disgrace.
And I totally agree with DusterUK, 'You Know My Name' is a really good tune, full of emotion and kicks along at a great pace.
This is just dreary crap which having heard it will make me go and get my popcorn and drinks whilst it's on. Thank you at least for that insight so I don't waste time queuing before the film.

Quote :
Who the hell cares? I wish Bond would just disappear along with the British Empire. What on Earth is the Guardian doing? Pathetic.

Quote :
Just makes you wish Shirley B from Tiger bay was doing this thing, it certainly exposes adele for the lightweight she is, vocally and musically speaking...is...

Quote :
It's bloated... heavy... over-hyped. Impregnated with smarm. And the song sucks big time, also.



Just be grateful Justno Beaver isn't British and was given the gig.

Quote :
Crumbs....really boring no effort spent in composing that was there. Was it done in just one key ? Just sounds like a draft version of diamonds are forever.

Quote :
'Crumble' is simply a terrible word to have in a dramatic song; to have it in the chorus, where it's both prominent and repeated, is disastrous.



And the backing vocals are really bad. (And the backing vocals are really bad).

Quote :
The function of film background music is to set a mood for the screen action but, itself, it should be completely "invisible". On that basis, this succeeds perfectly. No fault to Adele it's just a very weak, uninspired song which barely scrapes in as adequate because of a vaguely-Bondish modality.

Quote :
Generic pap. Incredibly meh.
I have to stick up for Jack White and Alicia Keys though. I thought Another Way To Die was pretty bad-ass. I second the opinion that Muse would have been a better choice.

Quote :
This is the first time I've heard Adele sing. I'm absolutely blown away at how mediocre and lifeless and bored she sounds.

Quote :
It makes Madonna's attempt sound classy!

Quote :
sounds like a fat amy winehouse. be honest.

Quote :
Let the skyfow
When it crumbows
We will stand tow
Terribow.
This truly, truly dreadfow.
Horribow.
Frightfow.

Quote :
Irritating from the very first couplet..."End" does not rhyme with "Ten".

It goes on... trying to rhyme "then" with "again", "end" with "moment" and "then" with "stolen".
lazy, lazy....

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It doesn't have that wow factor, the lyrics are terrible, this is beneath what both Adele and Bond got us used to... truly unremarkable.
And when she sings SKYFALL, change it for SCAFFOLD: tragically hilarious.

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Fucking loved it until I read all the comments. Now I hate it just like everyone else. In fact it's so bad, it's put me off music altogether.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/poll/2012/oct/05/skyfall-adele-bond?commentpage=3#start-of-comments

Confirms my already Stygian opinion of Guardian readers.

But what's Gravy doing posting on that rag?

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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:14 pm

No way does the instrumentation overpower the vocals. The production for this song is bang on.
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:23 pm

This is by far the gloomiest of all Bond songs, and that's kind of the problem. It's just not very dynamic. (And I gotta say this 4:45 version of the song way overstays its welcome.)

The back-up vocals really throw me. They're actually the most unique feature of the song, as far as Bond songs go, but rather than being evocative, they come off as kinda silly. I'd like 'em if they kept to the thinner, more ethereal sound they have when they're first introduced and never segued into the full-on choral sound they get around 2:40.


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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:26 pm

Control wrote:
I believe trevanian mentioned this somewhere else, but one major issue with this song is that the instrumentation seems to overpower the vocals. The instruments sound flat, too. Maybe this will be corrected in the film?

Maybe someone on the web could EQ it to better enhance the vocals? (though that might draw more attention to the lyrics, which wouldn't help)
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PostSubject: Re: What do you think of Adele's "Skyfall" theme?   Fri Oct 05, 2012 1:29 pm

Harmsway wrote:
This is by far the gloomiest of all Bond songs, and that's kind of the problem. It's just not very dynamic. (And I gotta say this 4:45 version of the song way overstays its welcome.)

The back-up vocals really throw me. They're actually the most unique feature of the song, as far as Bond songs go, but rather than evocative, they sound kinda silly. I'd like 'em if they kept to the thinner, more ethereal sound they have when they're first introduced and never segued into the full-on choral sound they get around 2:40.

I agree with nearly all of those points. It's too long, and the back-up vocals are not to my liking. Though not as bad as "You Know My Name"'s "FORGET HOW TO FEEEELLL!!!!" and "SPIN OF THE WHEEEEEEEELLLLL!!!!!!!!!"

P.S. I virtually always hate back up vocals that repeat a line.
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