Subject: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Fri Oct 05, 2012 5:07 am
Interview with George Lazenby from the just-released doc about Cubby and Harry.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:49 pm
Has anybody here seen this yet?
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Oct 22, 2012 5:54 pm
No. Defo and obviously like to but nowhere near me seems to be showing it.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:03 pm
Hopefully most countries can view this:
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:08 pm
Indeed so, thanks Python
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:58 pm
Python wrote:
Hopefully most countries can view this:
Very interesting. Lot of information I'd never heard before. The 1:22:00 mark almost made me cry, and almost made me rethink my criticism of Babs "Coltrane" Broccoli.
Also interesting to see that Mendes was not only quoted for his remarks about Craig's hiring back in 2005, but was man enough to go in front of the camera and admit he was wrong. Another interesting tidbit is Babs admitting that Cubby put the series up for sale. I don't recall them ever having been on camera and admitting to that. I think they actually denied that for a while (at least until Goldeneye was safely a hit, that is).
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Tue Oct 23, 2012 2:48 am
Fantastic documentary, and an excellent gift on the 50th anniversary! This film reveals a lot about Saltzman, Cubby, and their families that we didn't know. Babs says a lot of interesting things, I don't think I've ever felt so sympathetic towards her as she reigns over what is probably the world's biggest family business. I don't I've ever seen most of the Bonds speak so candidly either, especially Dalton - he was on fire! I wish this would've been a 4- or 5-hour documentary though in multiple parts... with more on Connery, Barry, Binder, Maibaum, the actors and directors, etc.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Tue Oct 23, 2012 3:31 am
You can tell easily how passionate Dalton was about Bond, it really is a shame he didn't do any more. It's always been murky with Brosnan, articles saying he quit himself, or he got a phone call and that there was bad blood between him and EON. It's nice to see that whatever happened they're now on good terms and he's just grateful he got to get the gig.
I didn't know about Connery calling Cubby when he was ill, I suppose that was just something the family didn't want to talk about publicly until enough time had passed. Good for Sir Sean.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:21 am
It was a real laff hearing Laz recount the story of the hooker live in person. Wasn't previously aware of it. The 60's were a hell of a time.
But yeah, the bit about Connery's phone call to the ailing Cubby was very moving.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Sat Nov 03, 2012 2:47 pm
Unfortunately the video has been taken down, does anybody know if any DVD releases are planned of this, or if it might even appear as a bonus feature on the Skyfall DVD/Blu Ray release in the near future?
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Tue Nov 06, 2012 3:46 pm
No idea, but I'm amazed that it hasn't been released on DVD and Blu-ray to coincide with SKYFALL. It would surely clean up if it were in the shops right now.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Thu Nov 08, 2012 8:32 pm
The Lazenby story at the top of the thread, that Shark posted, is one Laz's best. He was determined to be Bond after taking a date to see DN. I guess he would have been 23 at the time. How many other 23 year-old, non-actors have taken a date to see Bond and wished the same thing? Laz made it happen. That's quite the story.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:52 am
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Sun Nov 18, 2012 4:14 am
You've watched it now, tiff?
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:01 pm
I saw it on the Epix free preview, and though it does finally get at some of the behind the scenes legends, all together it is too glossed over and more of a DVD extra than a documentary. That said, the best moments are from the actors, especially George and Tim, whose quote is unforgettable: "The first question you ask the producer is-what do you want of me? Do you want me to carry on in the vein that's been set, or do you want me to set off on a new course? The safe, the easy answer is to say stay with it as it is. In which I guess I'd have said no. Roger was brilliant at what he did, but I simply couldn't copy what he'd done. The movies had become somewhat pastiche. Before too long, you've become a parody of yourself-you've lost depth, you've lost texture, you've lost contradictions, you've started to get shallow. What makes these movies work? What is it that got them going? You've got to go back to the beginning. Here was a hero who murdered in cold blood-bam bam bam bam bam. The dirtiest, toughest, meanest, nastiest, brutal-est hero we'd ever seen! This is what started those movies. I wanted to bring people back to believing in this character, to bring my reality to it. I guess I've always liked a challenge." God, we lost out on a third Dalton....!
The Cubby/Harry partnership is essential to understanding these films, and finally we get a glimpse into the growing distance and final breakup. I still believe that when Harry was forced to sell out that the films lost something.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Nov 19, 2012 1:32 am
To be be frank, in that interview Dalton comes off as a bit of a horse's arse. Someone just needed to tell him to tone it down.
"The dirtiest, toughest, meanest, nastiest, brutal-est hero we'd ever seen! This is what started those movies."
For him, perhaps.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Mon Nov 19, 2012 3:54 am
I dig Dalton's enthusiasm, makes me wonder where the hell that went in 1994 when he just "quit". He clearly was passionate about it, so maybe MGM really was telling EON "get rid of Dalton or we won't finance the next Bond film".
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Tue Nov 20, 2012 8:18 am
Python wrote:
I dig Dalton's enthusiasm, makes me wonder where the hell that went in 1994 when he just "quit". He clearly was passionate about it, so maybe MGM really was telling EON "get rid of Dalton or we won't finance the next Bond film".
Well I think that's it. I think Dalton was allowed to quit. Cubby and other powers it seemed really wanted Broz and his box-office potential.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:27 am
Dalton always was/is full of himself. Kinda of a snob, really. I didn't like this part in him.
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Subject: Re: Everything or Nothing: The Untold Story Of 007 Wed Dec 12, 2012 9:25 am
Just finished watching this doc. Come on, the criticism on Dalton is unwarranted. He saw Bond at that age when heroes like that were emerging. And he understood the character where Bond could be tender, jovial (his lovers, his colleagues) and mean, cold, brutal (mission, professional or not) the next moment. It was the feeling at that time that made Bond a sensation. I am talking about the 50s, the book Bond, that Dalton understood on his rereading (he's older than most of us, so he's better in knowing the period the books were set in). Look at his two films. He wanted to take it further. I would have loved to see his interpretation of From A View To A Kill, or The Hilderbrand Rarity, or Just few moments with the major in Octopussy, the death mask he morphes himself into at those particular moments. And in particular proper adaptation of You Only Live Twice that Connery missed out.
Very faint argument I admit. But...oh, fuck it...
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