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Who's your favourite Doctor?
First Doctor - William Hartnell (1963–1966)
4%
 4% [ 1 ]
Second Doctor - Patrick Troughton (1966–1969)
22%
 22% [ 5 ]
Third Doctor - Jon Pertwee (1970–1974)
13%
 13% [ 3 ]
Fourth Doctor - Tom Baker (1974–1981)
26%
 26% [ 6 ]
Fifth Doctor - Peter Davison (1981–1984)
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Sixth Doctor - Colin Baker (1984–1986)
4%
 4% [ 1 ]
Seventh Doctor - Sylvester McCoy (1987–1989, 1996)
4%
 4% [ 1 ]
Eighth Doctor - Paul McGann (1996)
0%
 0% [ 0 ]
Ninth Doctor - Christopher Eccleston (2005)
4%
 4% [ 1 ]
Tenth Doctor - David Tennant (2005–2010)
9%
 9% [ 2 ]
Eleventh Doctor - Matt Smith (2010–present)
13%
 13% [ 3 ]
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:08 pm

Holy Shit.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Aug 29, 2011 10:34 pm

And a VERY cheekily-titled episode by Mr Moffat it was ... the 'Berlin in 1938' setting doesn't REALLY have any bearing on the story's events. Enjoyable stuff, though ... and next week's looks creepy as hell.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:45 am

Has to be one of the best title names for a TV Shows. episode

However on that note I'm kinda annoyed the 'Mel as a best friend' was never mentioned previously. Even just in passing or something. I dunno. That seemed to just jump out, and while I know they showed the flashbacks it doesn't really cut it for me.

Otherwise highly enjoyable - and the poor Doctor with the holograms *tear*
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:14 am

But that was the point. Mel can't have been their best friend from the start, because the Doctor didn't dance with her at their wedding. Which means she was inserted afterwards, the wedding being a fixed point in time given that the Doctor returned during it.

And I thought it was rather amusing - I mean - what do you do if you have a gun and a time machine? :D

An awful lot of New Who seems to involve the ability to hold two or more contradictory and yet parallel existences in mind. The Doctor, being a Time Lord, will see the one strand of time that is 'real', and therefore be far more sensitive to any fiddling about with the time stream. He is the last remaining one, as we keep being told. Presumably, this sort of thing never happened when Rassilon was in charge.

What have the Time Lords ever done for us, eh? ;)
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:16 am

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Otherwise highly enjoyable - and the poor Doctor with the holograms *tear*

It did give me a split second of, "Not fucking Rose Tyler again?!?!?!?!" :evil:
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:57 am

Yeah but when Donna turned up ...
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:51 pm

The ep is gonna need at least one rewatch for me to get my head around the whole 'Mels as a best friend/Mels regenerates into River Song/River was actually originally supposed to kill the Doctor' thing :suspect: .

Other enjoyable moments ... the camera pan upwards to reveal that the 'crop circle' that the Tardis was sitting in was actually the second 'o' in the 'Doctor' that Amy and Rory had made in the cornfield to summon him.

Rory - 'Oh SHUT UP, Hitler'.

Amy - 'Can you ... ride a motorbike?'

Rory - 'Oh, I expect so ... it's been that sort of day'.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:58 am

/unrelated note but did anyone else notice that Arthur Darvill looked hotter this episode?
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:56 pm

Not really, lol.

Had a rewatch last night ... it made more sense :D .
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:28 pm

Well, we will just have to see if Rave agrees with me, BI.

To be honest I can't wait to rewatch it on TV - I saw a dodgy internet copy on my laptop so I'll have my official report on Saturday after I've seen it on the bigger screen. In saying that the suddeness of Mels in Amy and Rory's lives ... I dunno it just unsettles me a tad. I like the idea just not how it was handled I think.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:56 am

I enjoyed Lets Kill Hitler, although I felt the first 20minutes were atrocious, it really picked up afterwards. I'm sick of Moffat though, and call me a RTD Lover all you want, but the show has made an obvious decline with Smith. Smith is brilliant, don't get me wrong. It's just... I'm not a fan of Moffats writing tbh. His stories were great treats throughout Series 1-4, but since he's taken over. Mehh.

I don't really feel much for any of the characters anymore. I'm still a faithful viewer though, and I'll keep watching. :)
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:20 am

Nah, Rory leaves me cold, I'm afraid Fae. He's all yours.

The Doctor, though, really is improving for me with each viewing.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:19 am

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Nah, Rory leaves me cold, I'm afraid Fae. He's all yours..
He's not a glomp stage mind you - just looking better than he has done.


... now the Doctor ... :)
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:26 am

Well, he certainly seems to punch harder. Which is all for the better. I much prefer ballsy Rory to welcome mat Rory.

I don't get all the dislike, though. RTD Doctor, for me, was far more pathetic. All the stupid storylines, dragging in the companion's families (like who gives a rat's arse about them?), elevating the Doctor to Messiahdom, and Rose Tyler to something between the Virgin Mary and a Holy Bride. Bleurgh. Bloody pathetic, it was. Gimme Weeping Angels and the Silence any time.

And River Song. Now there's a woman I can relate to ;)
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:40 am

Just Rose Tyler ... like I get the symbolism shit they were going with there but considering he basically had to give her his little brother (read Handy) to stop her fucking with the universe ... well it says it all really. Clingy girlfriend basically.

In saying this loved Donna Noble from the RTD-era.

And River is great fun.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:09 am

Clingy girlfriend - Oh yes, I like that description. Fits perfectly.

I did like Donna Noble a hell of a lot, which was a surprise as I hadn't expected to. But it was so nice to have a Companion who was a Companion again, and not Clingy Girlfriend ( (C) Fae) ;) Donna could hold her own with the Doctor instead of fawning over his every move.

Martha was in desperate need of a slapping. She really ruined that whole series. Only the Weeping Angels saved it.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:06 am

Rose is in full action when she meets Sarah Jane ... oh my god that was painful to watch - and why they descended Sarah Jane to her level at poiints as well ... *headdesk*

Martha needed to get laid.

It is that simple. Poor girl - didn't help that she was the rebound companion. The Doctor really was a dick to her, especially considering her entire point in the third series was to go around the world telling people how awesome the-guy-she-liked-but-would-never-get-with was.

/ did anyone ever get the vibe Tennant and Freema didn't get along as well say Tate and Tennant, or Piper and Tennant did? I dunno, thats just my opinion for internviews etc.

And Donna is made of awesome - and so is her family. Wilf is the only family member that rocks my socks.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Fri Sep 02, 2011 6:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:48 am

Rewatched Let's Kill Hitler and on a second rewatch I enjoyed it alot more. :)

So excited for the rest!
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:23 am

I watched Night Terrors this morning...and the first half-hour or so was the most boring in a long time. Did not like this episode at all.

I have a complaint. They've done away with the Daleks on the grounds of overexposure but instead of coming up with something creative to keep the viewer's attention, they're doing this shit. Bring back River Song too, and the fucking cybermen.

This episode rating: D-

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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 1:45 am


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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 2:00 am

Mark Gatiss' scripts just don't work for me. There's a good premise, but it gets lost somewhere. Whether it's Unquiet Dead, or the Magpie shop thingy, or this one, it shows promise but fails to deliver.

I could tolerate this episode cus it was good to see the baddie out of Ashes to Ashes. But making George what he was (trying to avoid spoilers here) just seemed a cop out. And it was obvious from the outset where the monsters came from and why, as soon as the mother said about putting something in there. And the doll house was obvious as well as soon as they woke up.

I can understand they had to go with the happy ending, though, to avoid terrified kids throughout the whoniverse. Although I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of 'praying' to the Doctor.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:45 am

I'll touch on Night Terros later when I have more time but ...

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Although I'm very uncomfortable with the idea of 'praying' to the Doctor.

Series 3 must've killed you with the Doctor and his magical floating skillz against the Master. NOW that was a cop out in my opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 6:48 am

Bloody did - it was crap.
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PostSubject: Re: Doctor Who (1963 - present)    Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:15 am

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Bloody did - it was crap.
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The sight of Ten floating and being like 'I'm sorry, I'm so sorry'

I mean WHAT THE HELL!?! I would've almost preferred the plot coupon gun to that. Luckly we had the cute Doctor/Master hug/dying in your arms moment aftwards to some what make up for it.


AND SPOILERS:

But because of that I didn't so much mind it in Night Terrors - yeah it was a bit of a stretch, but it did set it up for the kid not to be normal, and minor in relation to the rest - also its like a link to Amelia Pond praying to Santa (divine intervention or mere chance that the Doctor crash landed? Woooo ooooo dooooo do dooooo) and getting the Doctor. See that is at least somewhat subtle and really they have been setting up the Doctor more or less as some God/Devil/Messiah whatever for a while now so its to be expected ... as long as it doesn't include floating skillz.

Anyway I enjoyed the episode. Wasn't my favourite per se but it did the job and I didn't mind the break from all the myserties and just seeing the Doctor do his thing. And I did like the father questioning at the end - if he hadn't ... well I wouldn't have picked up on it probably but still ...
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