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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:26 pm

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Clarence Boddicker was a frightening bad ass

What's funny is that I was a big RoboCop fan as a kid (I had a tape that was Batman Forever and then RoboCop after because my parents illegally copied tapes from the store) and then I was a big That 70s Show fan as a teenager -- but it took me YEARS to realize they were the same guy!

HA! I had no idea they were the same guy-- and yet this whole time I knew that I had seen Red before somewhere. I've only seen a few episodes of the show, but still. Cool!
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:47 pm

I'm gonna get back to watching ROBOCOP 3. So far (50 minutes in) it's a fun, 90's B-action movie. Nothing special, but unlike RC2 a coherent story is being told.

I do miss the Old Man. Jeff Garlin is in this! laugh And Bradley Whitford... was in this. tongue Didn't expect to see them. Boy, that Jill Hennessy. I'd frak her six ways to Sunday.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:49 pm

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Cold War Satire FTW.

"another quality home game from Butler Brothers!" laugh

On the topic of ROBOCOP - saw it on the big screen a gew years back. It was insanely awesome.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Mar 23, 2011 4:56 pm



Johnson's the best.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Mar 23, 2011 6:36 pm

Watched ROBOCOP 3.

Yeah, a fun 90's B-action movie. Lots of retardation in the script, though. The girl. She has some kind of a magical laptop that can control everything from the TV to Japanese ninja robots (never mind the question "why are there Japanese ninja robots"? Does she ever learn that her parents are dead?

The movie is daft as shit, but it was fairly entertaining, and a bit more coherent than the complete mess that was ROBOCOP 2. I'd still rate RC2 higher, though. And still want to frak Jill Hennessey six ways to Sunday.

Burke is a non-entity as Robo. Thankfully he's got the mask on most of the time. Ironic that Nancy Allen probably has more screentime in 3 than she did 2. And she looks better than she did in 2. She had a horrendous do in duex. There was also plenty of Robert DoQui, and that's good.

ROBOMETER
1. ROBOCOP
2. ROBOCOP 2
3. ROBOCOP 3

The mediabrakes... all two of them I think, are better than the shit ones in RC2.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:55 am

I wouldn't recommend watching the entire RoboCop TV series (it gets a little too family friendly as it goes on) but check out the pilot at least, Tux.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:09 am

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I wouldn't recommend watching the entire RoboCop TV series (it gets a little too family friendly as it goes on) but check out the pilot at least, Tux.

Netflix doesn't have it. They only have the Prime Directive movies.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:34 am

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I wouldn't recommend watching the entire RoboCop TV series (it gets a little too family friendly as it goes on) but check out the pilot at least, Tux.

Netflix doesn't have it. They only have the Prime Directive movies.

Is it on Youtube at all?

The only thing I really remeber about RoboCop 3 was the homeless people fighting against Delta City, the ninja robots, and the jetpack.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 10:07 am

Is the TV series pilot on YouTube? Not sure. May look for it.

Netflix has all three movies and the Prime Directive ones, though.

RC3 was at least pretty coherent. Retarded, but mostly coherent. RC2 had 20 things going on and didn't focus on any of them.

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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:04 pm

I've watched some of PRIME DIRECTIVES: DARK JUSTICE. Then I thought, maybe I should check out the TV show pilot. Would you recommend it?

There is a link to download it here: megaupload.com LJ1ECW70

At least I hope I'm downloading it. The link is on this...



DARK JUSTICE is pretty good so far. I have a fondness for Canadian sci-fi.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 5:17 pm

I can't even see the video on what I downloaded. Only audio. I hate when this crap happens.

Back to DARK JUSTICE...
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Thu Mar 24, 2011 7:21 pm

PRIME DIRECTIVES: DARK JUSTICE

Ya know, once you get into it and accept it for what it is, it's actually pretty entertaining. I often say that my tastes can be a little absurdist, and it applies here. This is basically how I view the thing: It feels like all of the non-sex scenes from a 90's late night cable, softcore porn show. Red Shoe Diaries, Love Street, all that shit I saw when I was like 12. It's like that, but instead of nudity you get a cyborg. A midget cyborg, actually.


"I'm RoboMidget."

It seriously looks and feels like an episode of Red Shoe Diaries with a cyborg. Especially the corporate scenes with the Ms. Cable actress who kinda looks like she'd be on one of those shows. I kept expecting her to take her clothes off and do some office whoring after hours.


"I want to have an afterhours staff meeting. 'Staff' as in your cock."

The acting is on the level of a softcore porn show. Page Fletcher, all five feet of him, stars as Robo. Guy looks like Rutger Hauer, but he doesn't have the talent. He looks pretty damn ridiculous as RoboCop. The makeup when he's got the helmet off is non-existent. When he's got the full gear on he walks like a retard and the suit looks like a Halloween costume.

Speaking of Halloween costumes, Bone Machine is a laugh riot.


"I is for real! Hahaha!"

The name sounds like a sex toy and he looks like something out of a Joel Schumacher Batflick. But on a costume budget of 7 dollars and 89 cents.

And Murphy's old partner. John T. Cable. With a dime store fake mustache. laugh


"Launch the alert Vipers."

There is actually a somewhat interesting story, I do have to say. More interesting than RC3 anyway. And there is the cheap Canadian sci-fi charm. The MediaNet stuff is okay. It's written better than it's performed. Verhoeven was smart enough to get Mario Machado and Leeza Gibbons. Some noname, no talents spew the news here. I hate seeing unconvincing news anchors in TV and film. Never get actors to do it. Always get real anchors.

Well, there you have it.

ROBOMETER
1. ROBOCOP
2. ROBOCOP 2
3. PRIME DIRECTIVES: DARK JUSTICE
4. ROBOCOP 3

It's an interesting alternative to RC2 and RC3.

If only it had the budget and talent pool of CAPRICA. This is the kind of pace I'd want CAPRICA to have had. Ya know, where shit actually happens.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Wed Apr 13, 2011 3:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:45 am

Nancy Allen said in an interview last year that RoboCop 2 was originally going to be a more character-driven action piece with another director in charge (Tim Hunter who did the Keanu Reeves thriller River's Edge). However, the studio demaded numerous re-writes, Hunter was discharged and in came Irwin Kershner whom Nancy thought a fairly incompetent director. I think she was disappointed that he didn't try to stick to the original ideas for RoboCop 2 which involved more of an examination of Murphy's human side.

I too was hacked off that there wasn't enough of Lewis in RoboCop 2 although she did kill a few more bad guys than in the 1st one and she seemed more hardened whereas in RoboCop 3, she was given more time and her friendship with Murphy was included more. Nancy said that Lewis in RoboCop 2 was totally different from what she was in the 1st one.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 6:51 am

Only the first one is worth seeing in my opinion.

It's sad that studios feel the need to milk every last drop of money out of every even remotely successful movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:12 am

Inatead of remaking the original or continuing from 3, why don't they just do a proper, direct sequel to the first movie? They should ignore the weak sequels and do a movie with good enough actors to play Murphy/RoboCop, Lewis, Reed and Johnson. I reckon with this premise, Darren Aaronofsky and David Self would be onto a winner.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:16 am

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Inatead of remaking the original or continuing from 3, why don't they just do a proper, direct sequel to the first movie? They should ignore the weak sequels and do a movie with good enough actors to play Murphy/RoboCop, Lewis, Reed and Johnson. I reckon with this premise, Darren Aaronofsky and David Self would be onto a winner.

I dunno. To be honest, Murphy's becoming RoboCop and coming to terms with it is the really the most interesting thing you can do with the character. Maybe it's the only truly interesting thing. Doing a followup nearly 25 years later probably wouldn't work. If a ROBOCOP movie has to be made, I think it should be the same scenario as the original in terms of seeing the human Murphy become RoboCop.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:27 am

What you have just said there makes perfect sense, Tuxedo, but I'm all for a follow-up which uses the original script that was submitted for RoboCop 2 as Nancy Allen said in that interview that it had more of an emphasis on relationships, especially between Murphy and Lewis who you could blatantly tell was in love with him, despite him being a cyborg. That aspect sounds very interesting and could be done efficiently without turning overly sentimental.

But like you said, a reboot would work better although for most of us, there's only one RoboCop and it's this guy.

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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:44 am

Oh yeah, I can't imagine how this reboot is gonna be worthwhile. It needs a Verhoeven for one thing. I fear a standard shoot 'em up.

As for Weller, I can't think of an actor who would top him as Murphy. I imagine there must be someone out there who would make a Murphy, and I do hope they at least find someone interesting and right for it.

Tom Cruise would be hilarious.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:47 am

Hey, Tux, did you ever finish watching the PRIME DIRECTIVES mini? I see your review for the first episode in the earlier part of this thread but I'm wondering if you watched any others?
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:48 am

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Oh yeah, I can't imagine how this reboot is gonna be worthwhile. It needs a Verhoeven for one thing. I fear a standard shoot 'em up.

A few years ago apparently, Verhoeven expressed an interest in the RoboCop revival, but since then, he has taken an interest in other projects he would like to do, including a film called The Crusades, a historical action epic. Back in the day, he was asked to direct RoboCop 2, but he was already busy with Total Recall which was a worldwide box-office hit.

I think the icing on the cake would have been the involvement of Ed Neumeier who created RoboCop in the first place. Maybe he could have assisted in the script writing or been an executive producer.
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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Fri May 25, 2012 2:44 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Robocop Franchise   Sun Sep 16, 2012 5:29 am

That is horrible.
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