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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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| Subject: M's Real Name Revealed Thu Feb 21, 2013 6:39 pm | |
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- To promote the home entertainment release of Skyfall, ComingSoon.net recently traveled from London to Edinburgh with the film's writers and producers. One thing we didn't mention in our original account was that, on arriving in Edinburgh we were taken to a hotel room where Meg Simmons, archive director for Bond production company Eon, had set up some costumes and props from the film.
After an initial pass around the room taking in the costumes on display, our attention was drawn to a cabinet full of props. Even under ordinary circumstances it's an interesting experience looking at props, marvelling at the detail that goes into something most viewers may not even notice. Then it got even more interesting: after agreeing to wear some rather ill-fitting cotton gloves, the archivist let us touch them.
One of the items that really grabbed our attention was Bond's Evaluation Report � the document that sits on M's desk when she clears him to return to active duty. As we leafed through it, it became obvious that it wasn't just a cover and blank pages, or random text, someone had taken great care to fill in every page.
And one page in particular was of real interest: Bond's answers to a series of psychological questions. We'll leave it for other people to debate whether these clearly are or aren't canon (and why each answer has the name J.D. Hall in parentheses after it), they are, after all, a filler page of a screen-used prop, created by an overworked artist. What they do show, however, is the level of detail the people working on a Bond film go to to make sure everything is as believable as possible.
What's really impressive is, far from being the exception, this level of detail is the norm, as Simmons reveals. "We have all sorts of things like that that you never see on film, but we're aware of. In 'Casino Royale,' at the end, when [Bond] is going through her personal things, there's a letter from her mother in her handbag. I've read that letter."
The contents were mundane, as Simmons recalls, something along the lines of, "Your dad's out walking the dog, Devon is very wet this time of year," but as she points out, "But somebody has sat down and written that, and decided what kind of parents she's going to have."
[Spoiler ahead if you haven't seen the film!] There was also something else that cropped up while we were looking through the archive, something that may be of even more interest to Bond fans. As we looked at the porcelain bulldog M bequeaths Bond, the archive assistant read the inscription on the box it is presented to him in - "Olivia Mansfield bequeaths James Bond." We've searched around, and as far as we can see this is the first and only time anyone's ever revealed M's 'real name.' It may not have been spoken, but if you were watching on a big enough screen it could have been visible, so we'd argue it's now canon.
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=100663 |
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Tubes Q Branch
Posts : 734 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:16 pm | |
| Just checked my DVD copy. I'd imagine it's even easier to see on Blu Ray. |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5500 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 3:50 am | |
| Olivia Maneater would've been better. |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
Posts : 6229 Member Since : 2011-03-20 Location : Propping up the bar
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:30 am | |
| The surname initial certainly fits with Bond's 'I thought M was just randomly assigned, I had no idea it was ... ' from CR. And with Miles Messervy and Gareth Mallory, come to that. |
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Hilly Administrator
Posts : 8059 Member Since : 2010-05-13
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 4:56 pm | |
| Suggests not much imagination in SIS. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:00 pm | |
| So I guess for the Brosnan films Dench M is Barbara Mawdsley and then in the Craig films Dench M is Olivia Mansfield, pretty much confirming she was playing two different Ms. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:18 pm | |
| How do we know that her name was Mawdsley in the Brosner films? |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 8:29 pm | |
| Don't think anything solid was said in the Brosnan films, it's just a name a lot of fans accepted because Benson brought in Dench's M in the novels and gave her a name.
But I guess it's pointless because Moneypenny's first name in the novels is Jane. |
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lachesis Head of Station
Posts : 1588 Member Since : 2011-09-19 Location : Nottingahm, UK
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:11 pm | |
| - Python wrote:
- Don't think anything solid was said in the Brosnan films, it's just a name a lot of fans accepted because Benson brought in Dench's M in the novels and gave her a name.
But I guess it's pointless because Moneypenny's first name in the novels is Jane. Well Jane is probably short for Eve! |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:30 pm | |
| - Blunt Instrument wrote:
- The surname initial certainly fits with Bond's 'I thought M was just randomly assigned, I had no idea it was ... ' from CR.
I always interpreted that comment as meaning that "M" was short for some previous code-name. |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
Posts : 6229 Member Since : 2011-03-20 Location : Propping up the bar
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:52 pm | |
| - Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
- Blunt Instrument wrote:
- The surname initial certainly fits with Bond's 'I thought M was just randomly assigned, I had no idea it was ... ' from CR.
I always interpreted that comment as meaning that "M" was short for some previous code-name. Messervy, Mansfield, Mallory ... it's just too much of a coincidence ;) . Mind you, it does seem to suggest that you've no chance of becoming the head of MI6 if your surname doesn't start with an 'M'. :suspect: |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Sat Feb 23, 2013 4:00 am | |
| When Bond first broke into M's apartment in CASINO ROYALE and she threatened to have him killed if he said what "M" stood for, it implied that, as the head of MI6, her identity was a closely-guarded secret. Therefore, it is entirely possible that when her will was read, it was read under an assumed name. |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
Posts : 6229 Member Since : 2011-03-20 Location : Propping up the bar
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:46 am | |
| Ah, the joys of humourless over-analysis. |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 2849 Member Since : 2011-10-29 Location : Located
| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:14 pm | |
| I'd rather humourless over-analysis than blithe cynicism. |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: M's Real Name Revealed Sat Feb 23, 2013 11:59 pm | |
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