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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Sun Nov 27, 2011 12:17 pm

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Should be tits. That's what we merry men want from you j7, not poorly recorded teaser trailers.

I agree but the problem is that there aren't too many REAL Men in this forum that wants Tits and Ass!

;)

They only want Bond!!

:scratch:


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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Sun Nov 27, 2011 1:17 pm

• The trailer starts with the 20th Century FOX logo. You hear a transmission. A woman (which I assume to be Rapace) is saying “…got to stop… was wrong.. so wrong…I’m so sorry…”. You can hear the last part very clearly.
• The first scene shows a spaceship flying towards a planet on the background.
• Next you see is the surface of a planet and some sort of facility. It kinda looks like a Lunar base to me.
• You can see the film’s title forming in the background during most of the trailer. Pretty much like in the introductory scene of Alien.
• Next is the Ampule room. They show it off from all different angles and finally a close up of the ampules. Suddenly you hear a high pitch scream. It’s not human. It sounds like if it was from a facehugger. Then there’s a lot of smoke from what seems to be acid corrosion. They show a guy in a spacesuit. He’s alone. Screaming and putting his hands over his helmet. It looks just like the Kane/derelict scene in Alien.
• Now they show the same spaceship from earlier. Flying towards what seems to be a different planet in the background.
• Now they show Vickers running across a hallway.
• Next seems to me someone in a spacesuit. Driving a futuristic vehicle in some desert like surface. Heading towards some structure or facility in the middle of nowhere at full speed.
• An impressive shot of the Iceland waterfalls.
• They seem to be shooting at something or someone but they don’t show it.
• Next you see is some grey-black serpent like creature. Jumping ala facehugger from some sort of grey-goo cavity. Now they show the whole scene. There’s two guys in their spacesuits. One lying on the ground (it seems to be the impregnated guy from earlier) and another one checking on him. The creature jumps from what seems to be the insides of the previous impregnated guy to the other one.
• Now they show someone with a expression of pain. The guy is still in his spacesuit and someone appears to be holding him in their arms.
• Now you can see a device or hologram of some sort. It looks like an atom or a planet. I’m not sure if it’s a planet or just some molecular structure. The center of the hologram is a single sphere so it should be a planet system. Probably the coordinates to some other world.
• Next is a spaceship being destroyed while in the air.
• One guy in a spacesuit pouncing at someone else while holding something. It looks like it’s going to hurt.
• Next is the space jockey room. The center piece of the plate opens up and the space jockey chair rotates out of the ground.
• Next scene shows off a very inflated belly. Like if the person was pregnant but there’s something bigger than a chestbuster moving inside. Seems to be Rapace’s.
• Idris Elba yells while aboard of what seems to be the Prometheus.
• The sandstorm + Rapace spacesuit scene. Close up of Rapace. She gets hit by the storm and she falls down a pit.
• Now you can clearly read Prometheus. The whole title has formed in the background. They show it for a few seconds.
• Now a close up of Rapace’s face. She’s in pain with the green lasers scanning her belly.
• Now the show someone in a spacesuit looking at the derelict in the surface of a planet with clear skies.
• The words “They went looking”
• The derelict again. It’s vertical to the ground. It would be impossible to enter it from the same place as in Alien.
• The words “for earth’s beginning”
• Still on the same planet. The derelict (or something really big) seems to be falling down from above. The guy in the spacesuit is running away now. Trying not to get crushed.
• The words “what they found”
• There show two guys running away now.
• The words “could be it's the end”
• They show the same guys again. Running away from what appears to be a huge gigerish structure (it feels like it’s moving but it’s hard to tell). Perhaps the derelict in flight. There’s a lot of smoke. What appears to be debris on fire are falling from above. They keep running away from it.
• The music reminded me a lot of the one from Inception (the ‘horns sounds’). But mixed with the music from the original trailer for Alien. Same music during all the trailer.

P.S. I don't mind being stuck on a spaceship, million of years from earth, with Noomi and Charlize

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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Sun Nov 27, 2011 10:27 pm

just finished watching ALIEN

now that I am older and I understand things more

I've come to the conclusion the ALIEN just wanted some pussy

he killed all the males on the Nostromo because he is not Gay so he had no use for them

he killed Lambert, the other Female because she was skinny and ugly and whiney and weak;

after all, all males want a strong female as the Mother of their offsprings and Sigourney was the strongest one
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:57 am

I am worried Charlize and Noomi won't take their clothes off!!

This is their opportunity to show their assets in 3D!
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:18 am

j7wild wrote:
I am worried Charlize and Noomi won't take their clothes off!!

This is their opportunity to show their assets in 3D!

I see the nature and standards of mr. wild's post haven't changed much during my absence...
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 11:50 am

j7wild wrote:

I've come to the conclusion the ALIEN just wanted some pussy

Finally, a villain we can empathise with.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:07 pm

j7wild wrote:
just finished watching ALIEN

now that I am older and I understand things more

I've come to the conclusion the ALIEN just wanted some pussy

he killed all the males on the Nostromo because he is not Gay so he had no use for them

he killed Lambert, the other Female because she was skinny and ugly and whiney and weak;

after all, all males want a strong female as the Mother of their offsprings and Sigourney was the strongest one

This is brilliant.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:50 pm

laugh

j7 should take over all of Ridley Scott's projects from now on. At least he's in it for the pussy and not the money. That counts for something, and will count for even more once Ridley's CGI 12a copout leads to the sickening thought of a Blade Runner sequel/reboot/re-imagining/whogivesafuck/whatever.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 2:48 pm

Well, it's true!!

did you notice in ALIEN after LAMBERT (Veronica Cartwright) was killed,

Ripley found her body hanging with no clothes on and her big toe was bend and crushed?

Also listen to the 2 distinctive sounds from 1:32 to 1:45

First you hear Lambert scream a few times,

next is what sounds like heavy breathing by the alien (starting at 1:39, while it's sexually thrusting),

one last scream from her, then total silence.




There was definitely RAPE and it makes sense.

Keep in mind the ALIEN was 1/2 Human!

It came from KANE (John Hurt) so it's technically Kane's 1/2 son.

At the dinner table right before the chestburster scene

Kane and Parker (Yaphet Kotto) were talking about eating something other than food and they were flirting with LAMBERT.

KANE: The first thing I'm gonna do when I get back... is to get some decent food

PARKER: I can dig it, man. I've eaten worse food than this... but then I've tasted better, you know?

LAMBERT (looking at Parker rather coy): You pound it down like there's no tomorrow.

PARKER (smirking back at Lambert): I'd rather be eating something else... but right now, I'll stick to food.

Lambert shaking her head and making a disgusted look.

KANE: Well, you should know. You know what it's made of.

PARKER: I don't want to talk about what it's made of. I'm eating this.

So it's a good possibility that the ALIEN, being Kane's 1/2 son, acted out on KANE's fantasies!!



Furthermore, the ALIEN creature was done by H.R. Giger, known for very sexual ALIEN paintings, based on his own work in

NECRONOM IV
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Just Google image NECRONOM IV and you will see all the sexual imagery you find.



His original designs of the ALIEN were rejected by 20th Century Fox for being too blatantly sexual.

Many of the original ideas behind the Alien had sexual undertones to make it much more unsettling.

H.R. Giger's original design of the Alien was much more sexual, but after 20th Century Fox objected to them, he altered the design and used his original ideas for the film "Species".

nevertheless, there is sexual symbolism and sexual overtone throughout the film.

This was mentioned by Scott in the DVD commentary; the idea of Bestiality and the ALIEN using Humans not just for reproduction, but for sex.

Alien is a movie with layers and depth. There is definitely sexual themes about a patriarchal society and you could go on and on and on with it.

I think most of it stemmed from Giger's work, but the film definitely plays on it.

All of the men are quickly dispatched, the women are toyed with and the creature revels in their fear and anguish.

All of the sexual imagery.

The Mother computer module is a womb.

Ripley has to pull out these 4 long phallic objects when setting the ships self destruct system, then push them all back into place when she tries to cancel it.

The obvious symbolism of the chestburster, which is basically death by penis.

The opening in the derelict ship is vaginal.

Both Ripley and Lambert end up almost naked when the alien attacks them.

Ash tries to kill Ripley by inserting a phallic object into her mouth while she is surrounded by pornography.

Ash's blood looks like semen and he spurts it all over the place when he is beaten by another phallic object.

The facehugger is another rape metaphor: it preys on most Men's homophobic fear of being anally raped.

The beginning of the movie sees the entire crew being "born" by emerging from their hypersleep chambers, then at the end of the film Ripley returns to the womb by going back into one.

Ash and Dallas look for the facehugger by probing crevices with phallic objects.

The flame throwers and cattle prod are more phallic objects of power.

I could go on and on, its definitely present in the film.

There's also been talk that Ridley will be using "Prometheus" as an opportunity to finally explore those ideas further.

It's been said that the new movie will deal with sexuality very directly, and also that the creatures in it will do very perverse things.

It could be Ridley finally taking his chance to explore all of these unsettling ideas that weren't able to come to fruition in the original ALIEN.

:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:


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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 4:18 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:59 pm

Bond used to like pussy. Now he prefers to run through walls. Tramadol.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:41 pm

That's a lot of wiener.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:02 pm

I thought it was serious film criticism.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:16 pm

I'd say it's both. I think it's the most serious film criticism we ever got from j7wild. laugh
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:24 pm

Anything beyond "I hope she gets 'em out" would be the most serious film criticism from j7wild...
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:10 am

I do not know what j7wild has been using but I want some too...................
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:12 am

j7wild wrote:
death by penis.

That´s how I want to go. Ambler´s doing his best.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:57 am

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j7wild wrote:
death by penis.

That´s how I want to go. Ambler´s doing his best.

That's a very polite way of telling me I'm a prick.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:01 am

Erica Ambler wrote:
Santa wrote:
j7wild wrote:
death by penis.

That´s how I want to go. Ambler´s doing his best.

That's a very polite way of telling me I'm a prick.
That´s something you don´t need me to tell you.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:02 am

Santa wrote:
j7wild wrote:
death by penis.

That´s how I want to go. Ambler´s doing his best.

I thought Ambler is a woman?

I never heard of Men named Erica!
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:08 am

That´s right. Ambler is a woman and I´m not sure what I am. It´s all topsy turvy around here.
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:22 am

She walked up to me and she asked me to dance.
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said, "Santa"
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:35 am

You´re so kinky. Hope you´re not too confused, j7...
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 1:56 am

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You´re so kinky.

What's Rave been telling you? :oops:
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PostSubject: Re: The ALIEN Series / Prometheus (2012)   Wed Nov 30, 2011 2:45 pm

Okay. So it an unverified plot summary of PROMETHEUS has shown up. It's thorough--not a plot twist isn't given away, if it's true--and may be fan-concocted rubbish, but something about it rings true, if you ask me:

http://boxofficebuz.com/news_full.php?id=287
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