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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 10:09 pm

I'd agree with that. On my second listen now, and I can safely say I was overenthusiastic in my previous post. Probably just because it was new Bowie material period, rather than a genuine response to the quality of said material.

My favourite song is still "Love Is Lost", though the album takes a bit of a nosedive in the middle. Too many half-arsed uptempo numbers, with the worst being "If You Can See Me", which sounds like a relapse of EARTHLING. "Valentine's Day" is a trite and saccharine handling of sensitive subjective, and "I'd Rather Be High" is plain f*cking embarrassing.

Most of the tracks here make want to listen a songwriter who's still writing genuinely challenging and unpredictable stuff. Bowie's idol - Scott Walker.

What did peeps here make of BISH BOSCH?
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 10:54 pm

Largo's Shark wrote:
What did peeps here make of BISH BOSCH?
I've been waiting until I have a good period of time available for a serious listening session before I dive into that album.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyTue Mar 12, 2013 11:03 pm

Harmsway wrote:
Largo's Shark wrote:
What did peeps here make of BISH BOSCH?

I've been waiting until I have a good period of time available for a serious listening session before I dive into that album.

Yeah, it's not exactly a light listen. laugh
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyWed Mar 13, 2013 12:13 am

Largo's Shark wrote:
the album takes a bit of a nosedive in the middle. Too many half-arsed uptempo numbers, with the worst being "If You Can See Me", which sounds like a relapse of EARTHLING. "Valentine's Day" is a trite and saccharine handling of sensitive subjective, and "I'd Rather Be High" is plain f*cking embarrassing.

Boss Of Me and Dancing Out In Space are guilty in that department too. And, although I can easily see your point with the Earthling connection, If You Can See Me isn't too bad IMO, but probably just because it stands out as something a bit different from the geriatric MOR stuff surrounding it. The only other track which really stands out as something different is Heat, which is probably the only track which suggests this album could have been really interesting or relevant to Bowie's canon had a bit more effort been put in.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 8:58 pm

After struggling with the bugger all week, here's my final running order in which to tolerate/enjoy The Next Day:

THE NEXT DAY
LOVE IS LOST
I'D RATHER BE HIGH
DIRTY BOYS
THE STARS ARE OUT TONIGHT
BOSS OF ME
WHERE ARE WE NOW?

VALENTINE'S DAY
HOW DOES THE GRASS GROW?
DANCING OUT IN SPACE
IF YOU CAN SEE ME
YOU WILL SET THE WORLD ON FIRE
YOU FEEL SO LONELY YOU COULD DIE
HEAT


In this order, some of the weak songs feel a bit more welcome by coming in on the back of even weaker ones, while the premature slowing down of the album is prevented here by pushing Dirty Boys further along the running order. I refused to completely remove any of the tracks because the record wouldn't have felt substantial enough.

The album doesn't sound too bad to me in this running order and it flows rather inoffensively (Where Are We Now? sounds a lot more welcome coming after the weakest track on the album), although the first two and last two tracks are still the only ones which really deliver for me.

And yes, I do stand by my opinion that every album should be released as a two-sided "wax cylinder" with a wind-down on each side to create structure, balance and a short break if necessary. Artists can't compile albums for shit anymore.




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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyFri Mar 15, 2013 10:24 pm

You and I have very different feelings regarding the good/bad tracks on THE NEXT DAY, Laz.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 2:47 am

Harmsway wrote:
You and I have very different feelings regarding the good/bad tracks on THE NEXT DAY, Laz.

Which are the good/bad tracks for you, Harms?
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 7:55 pm

Curretly standing near the stage at Al Pal, waiting fot Spector to come on (supporting act). Got Grace Jones playing on the PA...

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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptySat Mar 30, 2013 8:13 pm

Didn't know Bowie was doing any live dates, Shark. ;)

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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 13, 2014 10:01 am



Bowie does jazz. Badly. I'd sue if I were Sue.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 13, 2014 8:35 pm

It's not really jazz though is it? It's more like acid rock with a small jazz ensemble.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 13, 2014 8:35 pm

Maybe. Someone mentioned Soft Machine. I can hear the comparison.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyMon Oct 13, 2014 8:39 pm

I don't mind it really. Like a lot of older singers Bowie's lost his vocal range, but it's got a certain swagger.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyTue Oct 21, 2014 8:13 am

SUE is the lead-off single from the new Bowie compilation NOTHING HAS CHANGED, released November 17th in 3CD, 2CD and double vinyl formats. The track selections, running orders, a few questionable omissions and certainly the shockingly brisk and randomly sequenced vinyl tracklist all seem discussion-worthy...

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DAVID BOWIE ‘NOTHING HAS CHANGED’ TRACKLIST

3CD DELUXE EDITION/DIGITAL DOWNLOAD

CD 1: Sue (or In A Season Of Crime) (7.40) Where Are We Now? (4.09) Love Is Lost (Hello Steve Reich Mix by James Murphy for the DFA Edit) (4.07) The Stars (Are Out Tonight) (3.57) New Killer Star (radio edit) (3.42) Everyone Says ‘Hi’ (edit) (3.29) Slow Burn (radio edit) (3.55) Let Me Sleep Beside You (3.14) Your Turn To Drive (4.44) Shadow Man (4.48) Seven (Marius De Vries mix) (4.12) Survive (Marius De Vries mix) (4.18) Thursday’s Child (radio edit) (4.25) I’m Afraid Of Americans (V1) (clean edit) (4.30) Little Wonder (edit) (3.40) Hallo Spaceboy (PSB Remix) (with The Pet Shop Boys) (4.23) Heart’s Filthy Lesson (radio edit) (3.32) Strangers When We Meet (single version) (4.21)

CD 2: Buddha Of Suburbia (4.24) Jump They Say (radio edit) (3.53) Time Will Crawl (MM remix) (4.18) Absolute Beginners (single version) (5.35) Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger) (3.20) Loving The Alien (single remix) (4.45) This Is Not America (with The Pat Metheny Group) (3.51) Blue Jean (3.11) Modern Love (single version) (3.56) China Girl (single version) (4.15) Let's Dance (single version) (4.08) Fashion (single version) (3.25) Scary Monsters (And Super Creeps) (single version) (3.32) Ashes To Ashes (single version) (3.35) Under Pressure (with Queen) (3.56) Boys Keep Swinging (3.17) ‘Heroes’ (single version) (3.35) Sound And Vision (3.03) Golden Years (single version) (3.27) Wild Is The Wind (2010 Harry Maslin Mix) (5.58)

CD 3: Fame (4.14) Young Americans (2007 Tony Visconti mix single edit) (3.13) Diamond Dogs (5.56) Rebel Rebel (4.28) Sorrow (2.53) Drive-In Saturday (4.29) All The Young Dudes (3.08) The Jean Genie (original single mix) (4.05) Moonage Daydream (4.40) Ziggy Stardust (3.12) Starman (original single mix) (4.10) Life On Mars? (2003 Ken Scott Mix) (3.49) Oh! You Pretty Things (3.11) Changes (3.33) The Man Who Sold The World (3.56) Space Oddity (5.12) In The Heat Of The Morning (3.00) Silly Boy Blue (3.54) Can’t Help Thinking About Me (2.46) You’ve Got A Habit Of Leaving (2.32) Liza Jane (2.18)

2CD EDITION/DIGITAL DOWNLOAD

CD 1: Space Oddity (5.12) The Man Who Sold The World (3.56) Changes (3.33) Oh! You Pretty Things (3.11) Life On Mars? (3.49) Starman (original single mix) (4.10) Ziggy Stardust (3.12) Moonage Daydream (4.40) The Jean Genie (original single mix) (4.05) All The Young Dudes (3.08) Drive-In Saturday (4.29) Sorrow (2.53) Rebel Rebel (4.28) Young Americans (original single edit) (3.13) Fame (4.14) Golden Years (single version) (3.27) Sound And Vision (3.03) ‘Heroes’ (single version) (3.35) Boys Keep Swinging (3.17) Fashion (single version) (3.25) Ashes To Ashes (single version) (3.35)

CD 2: Under Pressure (with Queen) (3.56) Let's Dance (single version) (4.08) China Girl (single version) (4.15) Modern Love (single version) (3.56) Blue Jean (3.11) This Is Not America (with The Pat Metheny Group) (3.51) Dancing In The Street (with Mick Jagger) (3.20) Absolute Beginners (edit) (4.46) Jump They Say (radio edit) (3.53) Hallo Spaceboy (Pet Shop Boys remix) (with The Pet Shop Boys) (4.23) Little Wonder (edit) (3.40) I’m Afraid Of Americans V1 (clean edit) (4.30) Thursday’s Child (radio edit) (4.25) Everyone Says 'Hi' (3.29) New Killer Star (radio edit) (3.42) Love Is Lost (Hello Steve Reich Mix by James Murphy for the DFA Edit) (4.07) Where Are We Now? (4.09) Sue (or In A Season Of Crime) (7.40)

DOUBLE VINYL

SIDE 1: Let's Dance (single version) (4.08) Ashes To Ashes (single version) (3.35) ‘Heroes’’ (single version) (3.35) Changes (3.33) Life On Mars? (3.49)

SIDE 2: Space Oddity (5.12) Starman (original single mix) (4.10) Ziggy Stardust (3.12) The Jean Genie (original single mix) (4.05) Rebel Rebel (4.28)

SIDE 3: Golden Years (single version) (3.27) Fame (4.14) Sound And Vision (3.03) Under Pressure (3.56) - Queen & David Bowie Sue (or In A Season Of Crime) (7.40)

SIDE 4: Hallo Spaceboy (Pet Shop Boys remix) - with The Pet Shop Boys (4.23) China Girl (single version) (4.15) Modern Love (single version) (3.56) Absolute Beginners (single version) (5.35) Where Are We Now? (4.09)
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Not familiar with the film, but remember the book as very controversial. In school we had a teacher who read loud from it during lunch breaks. She got contacted by some of the parents as a result.
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PostSubject: Re: David Bowie   David Bowie - Page 2 EmptyTue Jul 25, 2023 4:17 am

I remember this made an impression on some of us kids, and must have been the first time I really noticed Bowie as something other than just a rock freak.
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