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PostSubject: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 01, 2013 7:37 am

TG returned tonight and it seems fair to finally create a largely pointless thread for it and its bastard offshoots. Tonights episode wasn't too bad and the Reasonably Priced Car seems the best of a bad bunch.

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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:45 am

It's become a favourite over the last 5-6 years or so ... previously, I'd considered it something for 'hardcore' petrolheads and hadn't bothered (I mean, I don't even drive). But having been convinced by several people that that wasn't the case and it was mostly just very funny, I gave it a go ... and I'm glad I did :) . Something very appealing about 3 middle-aged men cocking about like overgrown schoolboys ... the Clarkson/May/Hammond chemistry/banter/piss-taking is very difficult to reproduce, hence why I don't care for the 'international' versions (not that I've seen much of them, admittedly).

May's Toy Stories and Man Lab are also extremely enjoyable programmes. Oh, and anyone who can't spot that Clarkson is a deliberate, practiced 'winder-upper' and that he says contentious things on purpose with his tongue wedged firmly in his cheek is an idiot, IMHO.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 02, 2013 5:53 am

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May's Toy Stories and Man Lab are also extremely enjoyable programmes. Oh, and anyone who can't spot that Clarkson is a deliberate, practiced 'winder-upper' and that he says contentious things on purpose with his tongue wedged firmly in his cheek is an idiot, IMHO.  

Exactly. Clarkson is a lot shrewder than people may consider. The ONE Show incident with his "they should be taken outside and shot" was prime example. Unfortunately people are idiots, the easy to offend/looking to be offended lot. I'm sure last night irritated a fair few.

Refreshing to have a programme that doesn't give too much of a damn. As for Man Lab, it's inspired. Though oddly, I tend to avoid Hammond's programmes.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Wed Jul 03, 2013 4:39 am

The most I've seen of Hammond outside of TG was him presenting Sky's 'knockabout' science show Brainiac, I quite enjoyed that ... but yeah, was never exactly glued to the likes of Total Wipeout.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Thu Jul 04, 2013 2:59 am

I think Top Gear has been one of the most reliably entertaining shows on the air, but it is at its best when playing a three handed game and Sundays show, while good, I felt suffered a bit by their being apart too often.

This weeks highlight for me was a slightly different trio in Hammond/Warwick Davis/Jimmy Carr
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Thu Jul 04, 2013 7:38 am

It does work better with the trio at work together, looks like might be some of that in this series. Classic moments of their together tend to be those challenges, one of the best being the boat/car challenge (Clarkson picking up a floundering Hammond before capsizing the Toyboata).
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Thu Jul 11, 2013 11:20 pm

One of my absolute favourite moments was the second boat/car challenge with the Toyboata actually managing to cross the Channel all the way to France with all 3 on board, I damn near saluted when they got there laugh .
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Fri Jul 12, 2013 8:31 am

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One of my absolute favourite moments was the second boat/car challenge with the Toyboata actually managing to cross the Channel all the way to France with all 3 on board, I damn near saluted when they got there laugh .

Ditto. If it was not enough at the start having May (I think) almost drift out into the shipping lanes or Hammond capsizing again the sight of one of them on the bonnet like a drunken seal clinging for dear life sold me. Those poor Frenchmen et al, it was quite akin to Moore's exit from the water in TSWLM :)

Sunday's episode left me wanting but then I suspect the Wimbledon final had drained me.

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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:12 am

The taxi race was great fun, and Ron Howard was a highly appropriate guest given Rush's subject matter.

Something that maybe goes a bit un-noticed with the likes of the Toyboata channel crossing, Hammond's jet-car crash and the like is that the 3 of them regularly put themselves in genuine harm's way for our entertainment. Fair play to them.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:54 am

Aye, salutations to them. Moreso May for being strapped to a boat whilst being slapped by water off New Zealand.

Hard to imagine Hammond's crash was way back in 2006. For a moment looked like TG was doomed. Some of the things they've done since though. Should get a collective knighthood.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 22, 2013 8:42 am

Bit of a blast tonight, from squeezing a van under a No Entry signed bridge, blowing toffish restaurant goers over and so forth.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:24 pm

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Bit of a blast tonight, from squeezing a van under a No Entry signed bridge, blowing toffish restaurant goers over and so forth.

Yes this week had me in fits of laughter, best of the current series so far imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:28 pm

One can only assume that the Beeb compensated all those affected by the 'Hovervan' carnage in some way, lol (unless it was all 'set up') ... and along those lines, am wondering if the fella knocked out of his boat into the river was a 'plant' of some sort.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:34 pm

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One can only assume that the Beeb compensated all those affected by the 'Hovervan' carnage in some way, lol (unless it was all 'set up') ... and along those lines, am wondering if the fella knocked out of his boat into the river was a 'plant' of some sort.

I think it's one of those aspects better not thought on, in truth I doubt there is much that isn't set up or contrived - the real trick is to make something seem credible given their projected mentality and this worked pretty well I thought.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:39 pm

Yep ... most of the 'outrage' that TG stirs up tends to be caused by what the presenters SAY, not do.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 23, 2013 2:53 am

Exactly. Most tends to be creating a happening as opposed to accidentally hitting people with hover backdraft. Just have to accept it as much as I can't... :)
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:48 am

It's just that things like Clarkson setting the pedestrian on fire with the flamethrower from the 'combine snowplough' when they went to Norway do tend to have you questioning what's been pre-planned and what hasn't :suspect: .

Entertaining regardless, mind :) .
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:54 am

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It's just that things like Clarkson setting the pedestrian on fire with the flamethrower from the 'combine snowplough' when they went to Norway do tend to have you questioning what's been pre-planned and what hasn't :suspect: .  

Entertaining regardless, mind :) .

True. Talking to a friend over coffee today I said about the chap last night in his boat that got ran over by the Hovervan. If it was a 'natural happening' the camera boat would have raced in and off-camera shouts of "Jezza!" perhaps. Like when May fell and did his head during the Middle East special.

We must alas shrug and follow Messrs Hammond, Captain May (Slow) and Clarkson (Jezza) to the gates of Hell and beyond.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:29 pm

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It's just that things like Clarkson setting the pedestrian on fire with the flamethrower from the 'combine snowplough' when they went to Norway do tend to have you questioning what's been pre-planned and what hasn't :suspect: .  

Entertaining regardless, mind :) .

True. Talking to a friend over coffee today I said about the chap last night in his boat that got ran over by the Hovervan. If it was a 'natural happening' the camera boat would have raced in and off-camera shouts of "Jezza!" perhaps. Like when May fell and did his head during the Middle East special.

We must alas shrug and follow Messrs Hammond, Captain May (Slow) and Clarkson (Jezza) to the gates of Hell and beyond.

Much like films its a case of suspension of disbelief and occasionally they do go to far, it doesn't prevent it from being funny but it does undermine the fun a bit - cases for me would be the aforementioned torching of a pedestrian, setting fire to the Caravan next door, etc but for the most part I am happy just to rock with laughter. tbh most comedies are overtly contrived and scripted so this pseudo natural/realism is all good imo.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:16 am

That caravan episode was a favourite, the fire bit aside, that strange woman at the campsite for one thing. Made Carry on Camping/Behind seem quite serious.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Wed Jul 24, 2013 11:20 pm

Choice of two, really ... the one who strong-armed the Hamster into her caravan for a cup of tea or the one whose first answer when asked what there is to do on a caravan holiday was 'Fill up the toilet'  laugh laugh laugh .
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Aug 06, 2013 7:19 am

So, another series over. Hopefully it'll return towards the end of the year or at least a Christmas special this time round. Priceless moment for me last night was James May being locked out of the cab of the Boris Bus. Couldn't help but wonder if someone at the Mayor of London's office, having initially suggested what good PR it would be to have the bus on TG, was soon pulling out his hair.
No idea May could drive a bus, least of all sling it around Somerset.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:58 pm

The runs are so short the series seems to end just as it hits .... top gear ..... but I guess its a good thing to not overdo it and Hammond's hair clearly needs a break.

Another suggestion for funniest sequence would be the Reliant Robin review, it had me in stitches.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:34 pm

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So, another series over. Hopefully it'll return towards the end of the year or at least a Christmas special this time round. Priceless moment for me last night was James May being locked out of the cab of the Boris Bus. Couldn't help but wonder if someone at the Mayor of London's office, having initially suggested what good PR it would be to have the bus on TG, was soon pulling out his hair.
No idea May could drive a bus, least of all sling it around Somerset.

Typically contrary of the 'world's most prominent car show' to review a new public transport vehicle, albeit under May's jokey 'this would make a good car' premise. Hehehe.

Apparently, the finale of the episode celebrating all of the motor-industry manufacturing (in all its forms) that still takes place in the UK has led some to believe that it was the last ever. It won't be, of course (like a few series back in which the last item of the last episode was Clarkson doing a sombre review of a new Aston which also felt like 'the end' to some), but I can kinda see why it might've come across that way.
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PostSubject: Re: Top Gear (2002-2015) Phase II (2016-)   Wed Aug 07, 2013 7:29 am

Oh no, this isn't the end, it's not even the end of the beginning...The boys will be back.

As for the bus, I seem to recall someone driving a bus on the old Top Gear in the 90s. I'm tempted to say Clarkson but it was likely Quentin Wilson or someone equally forgettable :)

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