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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Wed Dec 05, 2018 9:56 am

What the Hell, all cats are grey in the dark...
true or false?
Bond slept.


that time of year to thumb through On Her Majesty's Secret Service.

Dame Stella Rimington in the foreword says that the plot is a very weak one and if that is so, then it is a measure of Fleming that a weak one is still a good one. For once imagined Savalas as Blofeld, much of his dialogue could pass off as Telly's. When you have Bond at London Airport walking disguised as Sir Hilary complete with bowler etc, I could readily picture it albeit it with Lazenby's swagger (as seen complete with kilt).

The ending still is the same.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Wed Dec 05, 2018 12:09 pm

What edition of OHMSS do you have? My collection doesn't have any forewords from memory.

Very... festive avatar, Hilly. You old devil.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Thu Dec 06, 2018 8:42 am

well you know, it used to be my Xmas tradition. Ms Pinder…

Ahem. Well, I have a Vintage copy (red spine and a fancy-ish cover). It says 2012 on the inside. Dame Stella who used to be the head of MI5. I skipped the introduction on this re-read. I should say if you ever do re-read OHMSS, select "Escape from Piz Gloria" from the OST for the two chapters detailing the escape and subsequent ski chase. Otherwise it's a touch difficult to match OST and novel!
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:23 am

Yeah I think it's great that the former head of MI6 wrote a foreword for a Bond book.

I'm sure 'Try' could be played when Bond's at the casino.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:35 am

On the quiet a chunk of the score works nicely with the book. Bond and Draco's meeting for example is virtually as it is in the book (the rape bit missed out of course)...it's Bond and M on Christmas Day that sort of jars. John Barry would've been hard pressed to make that work. I still think, that the Zurich Airport scene would've been nice on film somehow. I love the barn scene but something about an airport, everyone hurrying about and the focus on these two lovers, one looking quite beaten about and then he's off.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:12 am

Ever since I first read OHMSS, I always thought the airport scene would have been rather cinematic.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Fri Dec 07, 2018 9:40 am

I think if OHMSS had been done earlier, maybe even late 50s if it had been written before then, it might have been done as such. Little bits that were left out of the book do tickle me -Bond phoning the SIS man in Switzerland first about Campbell then when he comes to hide after Piz Gloria is blown up. Maybe if Bond had been a TV series, it would've worked.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Fri Dec 07, 2018 11:20 am

Yep! I really liked the stuff with Campbell in the book. Shame he's relegated to such a small part in the film.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:41 pm

I suspect EON didn't feel comfortable about showing Bond coldly let Campbell fry under Blofeld, so they just relegated it to Bond watching Campbell getting captured in silence.

I've never been too crazy about how EON makes Bond super knowledgeable about EVERYTHING compared to his book counterpart. Like when meeting Draco, Bond has no idea who he is at first glance, whereas in the film he smugly lays out a whole profile of Draco, with the exception of knowing Tracy's familial connection. And how instead of missing the calendar by a day like in the novel, Bond missed by a day INTENTIONALLY because he's "superstitious", a small reference from the FRWL film that never seemed to be an aspect ever brought up anywhere else, especially LALD.

It's why I like the 1851 bit in DAF, Mankiewicz took that aspect of Bond and made it even more super ridiculous for good humor.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Sun Dec 09, 2018 1:51 pm

It started believably in DN with Bond describing toppling simply with an educated idea but throwing it away with "or something isn't it?" like an intelligence man would. It got to ridiculous degrees even after Mank poked fun at it in DAF when Roger was made to simply recite reams of background plot points on the page because Bond became the depositor of knowledge upon the audience.
In OHMSS there was the brief welcome joke about lepidoptery which Bond uses to needle M at Quarterdeck. Eventually it got to the insane level in MR:
"Actually it was on the upper reaches of the River Tapirapé"
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:27 pm

Glad I'm not the only one who thinks one of EON Bond's most irritating traits is his nerdy recital of any and all obscure facts.

Nothing says authenticity like a crime lord's Wikipedia article recounted verbatim by an Australian underwear model
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Yesterday at 12:50 am

'You're licenced to kill 007, not to be an insufferable know-it-all'.
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PostSubject: Re: Last Bond Novel You Read   Yesterday at 8:13 am

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It started believably in DN with Bond describing toppling simply with an educated idea but throwing it away with "or something isn't it?" like an intelligence man would. It got to ridiculous degrees even after Mank poked fun at it in DAF when Roger was made to simply recite reams of background plot points on the page because Bond became the depositor of knowledge upon the audience.
In OHMSS there was the brief welcome joke about lepidoptery which Bond uses to needle M at Quarterdeck. Eventually it got to the insane level in MR:
"Actually it was on the upper reaches of the River Tapirapé"

Given how insane MR is I kind of roll with that bit, especially with Q looking annoyed as hell having to be corrected by Bond.
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