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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 2:33 am

FieldsMan wrote:
I don't think she's a hack, but she was rather wooden in SP. Though she was opposite Craig so I'm not sure she had a lot to work with.

And a Bond girl is required to lean on the actress' sexual persona, which makes her performance in SP all the more inconceivable.


The Supporting Bond Girl roles in the Craig films have been 5 minute/3-scene walk-ons. Screen time very limited for Solange, Strawberry, Severin and Lucia.

Belluci isn't my problem as much as the lack of imagination shown by the producers. It's like they intend to double-down on the mistakes they made in SPINCTER instead of accepting their losses and moving on.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 9:39 am

Interesting that I prefer Solange, Strawberry and Lucia to their respective main Bond girls. I would have liked more Severine but she works so well in the film. They need to go back to the inspiration they had for Severine. Brilliant Bond girl.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 9:59 am

FieldsMan wrote:
They need to go back to the inspiration they had for Severine. Brilliant Bond girl.

No going to happen. Babs BroiCColi is all about the Hollywood bubble and Severine was the one character in Skyfall who drew critical disapprobation.

Bond with homossexual experiences? Well done, Babs.

Bond fucks whore. Outrageous!
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:02 am

You're probably right.

Though it's more like: Bond fucks whore who wants to have sex with him. Outrageous!
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:05 am

FieldsMan wrote:
Though it's more like: Bond fucks whore who wants to have sex with him. Outrageous!

Yep. And it that ignores the fact that Bond agrees to kill Silva for her. That's a pretty high price for a fuck.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:20 am

Rehabilitation and a safe space would have been the more effective option, rather than murder.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:24 am

A High Price to Fuck would be a good Bond movie title or, failing that, a straight-to-VHS number starring Steven Seagull.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:38 am

From a View to a Fuck.

From Russia via Baker St With Love

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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 10:44 am

Thought I'd contracted a nasty STD, but glad to hear it was just "Love."
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 11:55 am

The kind of love that you hope clears up with antibiotics.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 12:39 pm

Blunt Instrument wrote:
Erica Ambler wrote:
I'd like to see Jason Isaacs in 25, despite his recent ubiquity. Also, if they're intent on a gritty Bond still get a tough American such as David Ayer for the director's chair.

Isaacs as ally or opposition, Ambler?  

Been giving much profound and unpaid thought to this important question whilst scratching my arse.

I think Isaacs should be an ally.

Though Isaacs would make an excellent villain, Craig-Bond needs more flamboyant foes if only because as he's such a miserable bastard himself. Plus, the tendency for Bond films is to have 007 as the only competent person in MI6 so it would be interesting for him to have some decent competition. And from another man instead of a woman for a change.

Maybe Isaacs could be part of the 00 section. Whilst it’s true Isaacs is far too old to be an 00 so is Craig. Plus they've worked on stage together and seemed to get on. That seems to be important to get a goof performance out of Craig.

Right, back to scratching my arse.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 12:41 pm

That should say good performance not goof performance. Though in Craig's case, goof works just as well.

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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 7:11 pm

Erica Ambler wrote:
Blunt Instrument wrote:
Erica Ambler wrote:
I'd like to see Jason Isaacs in 25, despite his recent ubiquity. Also, if they're intent on a gritty Bond still get a tough American such as David Ayer for the director's chair.

Isaacs as ally or opposition, Ambler?  

Been giving much profound and unpaid thought to this important question whilst scratching my arse.

I think Isaacs should be an ally.

Though Isaacs would make an excellent villain, Craig-Bond needs more flamboyant foes if only because as he's such a miserable bastard himself. Plus, the tendency for Bond films is to have 007 as the only competent person in MI6 so it would be interesting for him to have some decent competition. And from another man instead of a woman for a change.

Maybe Isaacs could be part of the 00 section. Whilst it’s true Isaacs is far too old to be an 00 so is Craig. Plus they've worked on stage together and seemed to get on. That seems to be important to get a goof performance out of Craig.

Right, back to scratching my arse.

Be happy to see him as an MI6 staffer who's actually trustworthy, unlike Scott's Denbigh. And on that, let's get back to MI6/the 00 section having its shit together again ... their competency/relevance in the modern world has been picked over enough from QOS onwards.

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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyMon Nov 13, 2017 9:20 pm

I'd say as far back as CR for Craig's era. The "keep sweating" Mathis proposal and M's complacency/approval was insulting.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyTue Dec 05, 2017 9:40 pm

https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/films/888280/James-Bond-25-director-Christopher-Nolan-Daniel-Craig-007-Tom-Hardy-Barbara-Broccoli 

Hope these are just rumours.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyTue Dec 05, 2017 9:58 pm

It's probably a rumor although they seem extremely dead set on getting a dark and gritty "auteur" director for the next one so it won't surprise me if it's true. I honestly would be more indifferent to Nolan though if he wasn't teaming up with Craig on it as that is just a cyclone of dreary Bond psychobabble rather than just a passing thunderstorm.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyTue Dec 05, 2017 11:28 pm

Pretty much. I'm concerned a generation of new Bond fans will grow up expecting said dreariness/grittiness from a Bond film and demand it from future instalments.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 7:16 am

Anyone 20 and under would know nothing other than the Craig style of emo Bond. That is, except for those who've braved the microaggressions of the pre-reboot 007.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 8:09 am

And I remember being bemused when I was a kid and my friends took a look at the sixteen pre-GoldenEye Bond films on my VHS shelf and asked what they were.  I imagine explaining pre-Casino Royale Bond to the young 'un's is going to be moderately harder than explaining pre-Goldeneye Bond films to the '90's/'00's youth.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 9:02 am

"Like how come James Bond's boss is a dude now? And why is he only in this thing for, like, five seconds? Isn't the bad guy gonna kidnap him at some stage?"

"Like why does James Bond make so many tone deaf sex jokes?"

"Like Oh Em Gee why is he always mansplaining stuff?"

"Like I totally bet that Goldfinger guy is like James Bond's dad."
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 10:27 am

^ This isn't such a stretch to imagine anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 12:52 pm

Since the edit button has "just disappeared"...

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... I have to double post. Bond 25 could be delayed due to Star Wars reshoots. God I hope so.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 1:20 pm

I honestly don't remember Bond doing a lot of mansplaining, in any incarnation. ROTFLMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyWed Dec 06, 2017 10:43 pm

Closest maybe in GF when he dismisses Tink: "Man talk."

Mansplaining is one of those words that irks.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond 25 (2019)   Bond 25 (2019) - Page 30 EmptyThu Dec 07, 2017 7:55 am

Salomé wrote:
I honestly don't remember Bond doing a lot of mansplaining, in any incarnation. ROTFLMAO

A man expressing a fact, or indeed, merely his opinion on a given topic to a woman constitutes mansplaining to the SJW-Soshulmeeja Complex.

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"TYPICAL MANSPLAINING SEXIST MYSAUSAGEIST DINOSAUR!"
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