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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:49 am

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I also liked your idea of casting Paterson Joseph in the Peep Show thread.
Joesph is a decent actor, there's a lot more to him than Alan Johnson, though he wouldn't be right for Bond. Check him out in the underrated The Fixer; he's got major scenes around the 18 and 37 minutes mark:

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:56 am

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If Sean Connery [...] were alive today

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:21 am

Makeshift Python wrote:
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
If Sean Connery [...] were alive today

cry more sad

At least he died on the job... he would have wanted it that way.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:23 am

Imagine if Connery had died at the height of his popularity in that BOAC plane crash in Japan when they were scouting YOLT. Today, he'd be bigger than God.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BOAC_Flight_911

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Several booked passengers decided to cancel their tickets at the last moment to see a ninja demonstration. These passengers, Cubby Broccoli, Harry Saltzman, Ken Adam, Lewis Gilbert and Freddie Young, were in Japan scouting locations for the fifth James Bond film, You Only Live Twice.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:26 am

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I refuse to believe Craig stands at 5'10''

The one Bond Girl who dissed Craig's height (Gemma Arterton) did say he's 5 ft 10 after she made a silly comment to the press about him having to wear heels when they did certain scenes together.

That would mean if I wear heels, or pumps, I'm taller than Craig too.

I'm a midget next to Mr Dog though...he's 6ft 5.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:27 am

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:29 am

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:32 am

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Imagine if Connery had died at the height of his popularity in that BOAC plane crash in Japan when they were scouting YOLT. Today, he'd be bigger than God.

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Several booked passengers decided to cancel their tickets at the last moment to see a ninja demonstration. These passengers, Cubby Broccoli, Harry Saltzman, Ken Adam, Lewis Gilbert and Freddie Young, were in Japan scouting locations for the fifth James Bond film, You Only Live Twice.

I didn't know about that. Bet they thanked their lucky stars. Freddie Young lived to his mid-90s, and Ken Adam's still pushing through his 90s.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:33 am

Would make an interesting alternative history. Where would the series have gone without its regular team?
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:39 am

At risk of seeming like an asshole, I can't say that I would have missed Gilbert's contributions to the franchise.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:42 am

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At risk of seeming like an asshole, I can't say that I would have missed Gilbert's contributions to the franchise.

And like Connery with Thunderball, Gilbert would've gone out on a career high with Alfie.

I like alternative history. Particularly the period where Moore and Brozza never happened.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:50 am

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I like alternative history. Particularly the period where Moore and Brozza never happened.

Must have been when Gary Coleman was 007. No wonder you embrace black Bond.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:52 am

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Erica Ambler wrote:
I like alternative history. Particularly the period where Moore and Brozza never happened.

Must have been when Gary Coleman was 007. No wonder you embrace black Bond.

This is what happens when you tell Dog to paint her toenails. I was thinking red not black, by the way.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 9:45 am

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Call me prejudice all you like, I'm with Gravy on this one. Bond isn't black. I've got no problem with suave and dapper Idris being cast as another 00-agent and a new character altogether in the MI6 hierarcy....just as Colin Salmon was. But put him as 007 and I'm gone.

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Amen, Sister!

I'm so past the point of caring whether I'm a racist or prejudiced or bigoted. I've been pushed too far to the edge with Daniel Craig; his films been almost Bond in name-only, so it wouldn't take much to get me to quit my fandom. Make him Indian, Asian, Latin, a woman, gay, etc....any more changes to the character and I'm out of here. Through. Finished.

There's a very simple fix for anybody wanting a feature film starring Idris Elba as an action hero in a spy film: create a character for him in the 00-universe and put him in his own set of films. I like Elba a lot; I'd pay to see that. But I won't pay to see him be 007.

If SONY or Babs really want this to happen, they could make it happen, rather than trying to shoehorn Elba into the 007 label. Think of all the money that could be made if SONY began expanding the world 007 lives in so that we see other adventures of other 00-agents. But I don't think it'll happen because the social experimentation that Babs is doing only has value if you continue to alter 007; Bond is the problem. Bond is the one needing fixing. Rather than elevate the standards of others and let them rise up to the level of Bond, we'll just drag Bond down to their level; change him and his nature.

I'm fed up with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:46 am

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I know! No fucking clue who he is. Wasn't there some talk of Colin Salmon potentially being Bond, and Brosnan backing him as well?

Wasn't there someone around here who knew something of Michael Fassbender getting the gig after Craig?

That was me, I think ... a friend of mine who is a mechanic and works on Jaguars and Astons apparently met Fassbender's uncle in the course of his work, who claimed that Fassbender has basically been told that Bond is his if he wants it after Craig steps down.

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:42 pm

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I'm looking forward for Craig to play Martin Luther King in the biopic project.

You always want Craig to get shot, even in his roles.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:47 pm

I'd stick to a traditional looking Bond, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of a black Bond, especially if that actor really carries all the qualities that make Bond who he is.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:47 pm

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Control wrote:
At risk of seeming like an asshole, I can't say that I would have missed Gilbert's contributions to the franchise.

And like Connery with Thunderball, Gilbert would've gone out on a career high with Alfie.

I like alternative history. Particularly the period where Moore and Brozza never happened.

That would be nice. But I would have loved to have seen Rog as a serious Bond. He actually has pretty decent acting chops (The Man Who Haunted Himself). We saw a few hints at it during the series.

I think if he had played it straight and the films less camp/comical in tone it could have actually been pretty damn enjoyable. Even when I watch Brosnan I think had he had better scripts, a more serious tone he could have given us something decent. Even going back and watching the office scene in TWINE pre-titles... jesus...the whole dialogue is banking puns.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:02 pm

I always wonder how it might have turned out if Moore started with OHMSS instead. Just a clean transition like it was from DAF to LALD.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:29 pm

Who among us wants to purchase blacknotbond.com in anticipation?
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 5:41 pm

A handful of us should throw in a few bucks and get the domain. Could be a good investment.

Might as well snag bondandbeyond.xxx while we're at it.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 6:33 pm

Who the fuck is this? Bet he lurks here too.

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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:23 pm

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They, to a degree, got away with a black Leiter and black Moneypenny
I don't think that it is a case of "getting away with it". If you take a cross-section of society today, you're naturally going to find people from a wide range of backgrounds, and having that extend into popular culture is pretty much a foregone conclusion. I don't think that there is anything about the Leiter or Moneypenny characters that makes their race or ethnicity sacrosanct the way there is with Bond.

In terms of the actual, physical casting, I think Eon nailed it with Wright as Leiter. He's a quality actor, and I think the romantic-who-wants-to-be-a-cynic aspect of his performance really made the character. I'm not sold on Harris as Moneypenny, largely because her role in SKYFALL was so radically different to anything we had seen so far.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Mon Dec 22, 2014 6:36 am

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They, to a degree, got away with a black Leiter and black Moneypenny
I don't think that it is a case of "getting away with it". If you take a cross-section of society today, you're naturally going to find people from a wide range of backgrounds, and having that extend into popular culture is pretty much a foregone conclusion. I don't think that there is anything about the Leiter or Moneypenny characters that makes their race or ethnicity sacrosanct the way there is with Bond.

I tend to agree here. I wasn't bothered by those castings.

I told people that black Annie would fail too. Nyah nyah to Jamie Foxx. Why aren't millions of black people going to see it? If they're not supporting it, why bother?

Incidentally, in the leaked SONY emails, execs have accused worldwide audiences of being racist because the foreign BO for Equalizer was only 90m, (compared to 100m in the USA, which is a good domestic haul) and they claim that worldwide audiences won't go for a black lead.
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PostSubject: Re: Sony leaks reveal wants for Idris for next Bond   Mon Dec 22, 2014 8:36 am

I didn't see THE EQUALIZER, but that doesn't make me racist. I didn't go because I don't like Denzel Washington. He tends to repeat every line he says. Haven't you noticed the way he tends to repeat himself? Maybe not every line, but most of them. Most of them.
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