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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 4:28 pm



Amazing.

Please vote him in. The world could use a good laugh.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:01 pm

Like I've said before, I expect my own country to only have a buffet of dross to choose between come election time, but you would expect a country like Britain to at least have a few worthy statesmen each new generation. Where did it all go wrong?
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 8:43 pm

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Where did it all go wrong?

Two world wars knocked the stuffing out of Britain and all values associated with masculinity were abandoned. Instead, emotion became more important than reason. The long-accepted idea that the State should be a servant not the master disappeared.

No longer was the primary function of the State to preserve the freedom of the individual. In its place, came a quasi-benevolent social welfare that suffocated ambition and creative thinking. 'From the cradle to the grave’ is its slogan, but it’s nearer a living death.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 9:12 pm



Now this is the leadership the Western world has been waiting for.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:03 pm

So given all the givens, if I was up there in the UK I'd know who I'm voting for.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Sun Apr 19, 2015 11:49 pm

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I know who I'm voting for.

Dog will be voting for Mr Oizo. And why not? A credible candidate at last.

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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 12:41 am

Erica Ambler wrote:
Salomé wrote:
Where did it all go wrong?

Two world wars knocked the stuffing out of Britain and all values associated with masculinity were abandoned. Instead, emotion became more important than reason. The long-accepted idea that the State should be a servant not the master disappeared.

No longer was the primary function of the State to preserve the freedom of the individual. In its place, came a quasi-benevolent social welfare that suffocated ambition and creative thinking. 'From the cradle to the grave’ is its slogan, but it’s nearer a living death.

Yes, but it's not really about the underlying values or ideas of each candidate's party. More about their gravitas, sense of authority and charisma.
I mean, I'm sure Attlee is not your cup of tea politically, but I hope even you would admit he had more charisma in his little toe than these current candidates combined.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:07 am

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Yes, but it's not really about the underlying values or ideas of each candidate's party. More about their gravitas, sense of authority and charisma.

That may change. Every woman I know wants to have Boris Johnson's babies.

Salomé wrote:
I mean, I'm sure Attlee is not your cup of tea politically, but I hope even you would admit he had more charisma in his little toe than these current candidates combined.

Attlee had no charisma whatsoever. However, he got more done than almost any other post-War British prime minister. It's no accident that Attlee's greatest admirer was Margaret Thatcher.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:17 am

Erica Ambler wrote:
Salomé wrote:
Yes, but it's not really about the underlying values or ideas of each candidate's party. More about their gravitas, sense of authority and charisma.

That may change. Every woman I know wants to have Boris Johnson's babies.


You must run in very weird circles!
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 1:25 am

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Erica Ambler wrote:
Salomé wrote:
Yes, but it's not really about the underlying values or ideas of each candidate's party. More about their gravitas, sense of authority and charisma.

That may change. Every woman I know wants to have Boris Johnson's babies.


You must run in very weird circles!

Johnson's appeal to women is an accepted if not well understood phenomenon as a minute's googling demonstrates:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1295403/Why-DO-classy-women-falling-Mayor-Boris-bumbling-cad.html

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/apr/23/why-women-vote-boris-johnson

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/columnists/kevin-myers/kevin-myers-boris-johnson-is-more-than-a-philanderer-for-whom-women-remove-their-knickers-with-ease-as-men-do-the-equivalent-26834719.html

I confess I admire his honesty about philandering. One of the reasons charismatic people stay out of party politics is that their sex-lives cannot stand up to media scrutiny. Johnson is open about it all.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:05 am

It's more that I struggle to see the appeal.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 3:30 am

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It's more that I struggle to see the appeal.



Not my type either.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 7:43 am

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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 9:30 am

From that Daily Mail article: "To look at him you would never imagine he was a womaniser"



I first remember seeing Boris on Letterman years back. He looked like absolute shit during his last Letterman interview, as if he was hungover from coming off a week-long bender. Interesting guy.

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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 10:12 am

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From that Daily Mail article: "To look at him you would never imagine he was a womaniser"



I first remember seeing Boris on Letterman years back. He looked like absolute shit during his last Letterman interview, as if he was hungover from coming off a week-long bender. Interesting guy.


Clearly he needs hair advice from The Donald.



At least Sam Cam cuts a good pic for British politics.


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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:34 pm

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Clearly he needs hair advice from The Donald.



Isn't that Boris' father, Stanley?

As for Boris and Sam Cam, the rumours are legion.


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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 5:45 pm

Boris and Cameron's wife?
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Mon Apr 20, 2015 6:12 pm

In June 2013, there was a lot of speculation about the identity of the players involved in this front-page story in The Daily Mail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2334483/No-10-rocked-secret-love-affair-Stunned-PM-holds-crisis-talks-fears-tryst-blow-political-agenda-water.html

Internet rumours began after after no British newspapers followed the story up, leading to that spoof Private Eye cover. Plenty of overseas speculation at the time, such as this report in the JP.

http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Op-Ed-Contributors/Why-is-the-UK-media-scared-to-name-names-317108
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:47 am

Erica Ambler wrote:
bitchcraft wrote:
Clearly he needs hair advice from The Donald.



Isn't that Boris' father, Stanley?

As for Boris and Sam Cam, the rumours are legion.

Boris and SamCam?

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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Tue Apr 21, 2015 7:58 pm

bh


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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Tue Apr 21, 2015 10:19 pm

Miliband sounds like he's in constant need of a Kleenex.

For his nose, that is.
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Tue Apr 21, 2015 11:18 pm

Boris Johnson campaigning yesterday. Note the woman half his age in the background - something's tickled her fancy ...



Meanwhile, the Grauniad announces that "Hell, yes!" Miliband is the coolest man on the planet...

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2015/apr/21/ed-milibands-slow-walk-to-cool
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Wed Apr 22, 2015 2:37 am

This is really not my habit - mainly because it's none of my business and doesn't change anything for me - but here it would go a long way in explaining. So please don't think me rude, I just have to ask now: you are gay, Ambler, aren't you?
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:04 am



Was it the Donna Summer collection?
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PostSubject: Re: The UK General Election 2015   Wed Apr 22, 2015 3:11 am

That was helpful, too. colgate
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