Sexual assaults in Köln

A group of up to 1000 men, most of them of North-African/Arab descent, spent NYE harrassing and sexually assaulting women.
This was not limited to Köln alone (reports of similar crimes in Hamburg as well).
The worrying aspect is the organized nature of the crimes.

The wider implications of these crimes are quite interesting. Germany is the poster country for mass migration out of the ME.
I'm sure that their government, Frau Merkel especially, could have done without such a PR nightmare.
Even if it turns out that these crimes aren't immediately linked to the newly arrived refugees, but second and third generation immigrants.

Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story, the right is more interested in spinning this into an anti-migration story than to actually address the realities of the crimes committed and actively try to implement measures to prevent this from happening again.

Salomé wrote:

Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story.

What is the religious part of the story?

Their religion teaches them women make up the majority of hell and that women need to be controlled and subjugated.

I remember reading about a UK pakistani who raped a UK woman simply because...she was out at night instead of knowing her place and being at home...and in his mind, he is justified. He considered this punishment and wanted to teach her a lesson which would be condoned by other Pakistani men. And assholes with this mindset continue to stream into the country.

I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.

There's little doubt that, for Germany and for Europe, Merkel is the most disastrous leader that place has had since You-Know-Who. I give it about a decade before native Europeans lose their shit over Islamic aggression and it will be quite ugly.

bitchcraft wrote:

I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.

But how meaningful is it...tbh if you isolate the sample to one household you can manipulate the figures to 100% or 0% at a stroke.

I found the events of New Years eve to be as sad as they were totally bewildering......although I had not considered the 'womens place' angle...is that really being suggested as a motive? It all just seems so blatant and assured to amplify racism it is difficult to understand from anyones perspective?

It certainly was a coordinated and pre-planned attack, with some men even having little notes with translated phrases and words to shout at the women on them.

bitchcraft wrote:

Salomé wrote:

Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story.

What is the religious part of the story?

Their religion teaches them women make up the majority of hell and that women need to be controlled and subjugated.

I remember reading about a UK pakistani who raped a UK woman simply because...she was out at night instead of knowing her place and being at home...and in his mind, he is justified. He considered this punishment and wanted to teach her a lesson which would be condoned by other Pakistani men. And assholes with this mindset continue to stream into the country.

I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.

Be afraid....be very afraid.

And if it weren't bad enough in Europe, America's political leaders from both parties want to import MORE of these savages, not less:

Here's the 60 minutes video I was looking for:

The lefty fembots in Australia (Clementine Ford et al.) are all rushing to defend Germany's Musselman rape-army as a small minority whilst continuing to vilify all white males at home. Should finally remove any remaining doubt that Western leftists support dhimmitude over and above any purported concern for women (or gays or any other group the Mahometans don't like).

n

Wasn't there a similar scandal not too long ago? Was it Rotherham?
I honestly thought at the time that the case could not be isolated if there were similar communities elsewhere in Britain.

n

Me2 is for the rich and famous.

When one of the original whistleblowers, Rose McGowan, suggested that wearing black dresses at award shows as a form of protest was a bit silly, she was attacked by her peers. It's pretty clear you have to fit within a very specific definition of victimhood to be allowed in.

Salomé wrote:

When one of the original whistleblowers, Rose McGowan, suggested that wearing black dresses at award shows as a form of protest was a bit silly, she was attacked by her peers. It's pretty clear you have to fit within a very specific definition of victimhood to be allowed in.

McGowan is a loose cannon, as well. Fighting sexism with sexism is... well, fucking idiotic and not productive.

Neo-feminists don't care about progress, though, despite claiming to be progressives. Tyranny is their goal and they're doing a damn good job in the United States.

But I'm just a white privileged male. What do I know?

Quote :

Ali was one of two leaders of a sexual grooming gang that preyed on girls as young as 13 in Telford.

Captured as part of Operation Chalice and jailed back in 2013, he has been told he will be released on licence as early as November.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2017/07/29/telford-sex-gang-ringleader-mubarek-ali-set-to-be-freed-early/

This is disgraceful.

n

Erica Ambler wrote:

Quote :

Adult Afghan asylum seeker who lied he was a child refugee before raping and murdering EU official's daughter is jailed for life in Germany

If I presented that as a possible plotline it would be rightly rejected as too far-fetched.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5530867/Afghan-murdered-EU-officials-daughter-jailed-life-Germany.html

A very sad story. The most shocking thing is that he only served two years of a ten year sentence for an attempted murder in Greece.
I don't see the upside to any civilized society to violent criminals getting lenient sentences.

n

Erica Ambler wrote:

A very sad and completely avoidable story.

I don't see the upside to any civilized society encouraging millions of economic migrants unless they have useful skills. In far too many cases they are uneducated, hostile, unable to speak the language and possess completely unacceptable attitudes to women. Genuine refugees are another matter, of course.

Wishful thinking’s victory over pragmatism is the overwhelming factor in the decline of the West.

I'm not an uncritical idiot who thinks unbridled migration is utopian and without many issues, but it's not like murder and rape were imported into German society in 2015 with Frau Merkel's "Wir schaffen das!".
I would be very happy if all men found guilty of such crimes got more serious prison sentences.
If this man had been properly punished for his first attempted murder of a woman in Greece, Maria would still be alive today.
These stories are invariable also about a failure of the criminal justice system.

h

It's not exactly a strawman argument but more of a general observation about the failings of the criminal justice system across European borders in properly sentencing violent criminals. Whether or not he should have been in Europe, had he been properly punished after his first violent crime, at least one woman would still be alive today.

And I won't quite pack my bags and head for Cambodia just yet.

n

As I recall, the UK was never in Schengen.

Also not entirely clear what I'm supposed to be so terrified of.

n