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PostSubject: Sexual assaults in Köln   Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:39 pm

A group of up to 1000 men, most of them of North-African/Arab descent, spent NYE harrassing and sexually assaulting women.
This was not limited to Köln alone (reports of similar crimes in Hamburg as well).
The worrying aspect is the organized nature of the crimes.

The wider implications of these crimes are quite interesting. Germany is the poster country for mass migration out of the ME.
I'm sure that their government, Frau Merkel especially, could have done without such a PR nightmare.
Even if it turns out that these crimes aren't immediately linked to the newly arrived refugees, but second and third generation immigrants.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Jan 08, 2016 3:18 am

Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story, the right is more interested in spinning this into an anti-migration story than to actually address the realities of the crimes committed and actively try to implement measures to prevent this from happening again.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Mon Jan 11, 2016 1:28 am

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Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story.

What is the religious part of the story?

Their religion teaches them women make up the majority of hell and that women need to be controlled and subjugated.

I remember reading about a UK pakistani who raped a UK woman simply because...she was out at night instead of knowing her place and being at home...and in his mind, he is justified. He considered this punishment and wanted to teach her a lesson which would be condoned by other Pakistani men. And assholes with this mindset continue to stream into the country.

I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Mon Jan 11, 2016 12:57 pm

There's little doubt that, for Germany and for Europe, Merkel is the most disastrous leader that place has had since You-Know-Who. I give it about a decade before native Europeans lose their shit over Islamic aggression and it will be quite ugly.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:56 pm

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I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.

But how meaningful is it...tbh if you isolate the sample to one household you can manipulate the figures to 100% or 0% at a stroke.

I found the events of New Years eve to be as sad as they were totally bewildering......although I had not considered the 'womens place' angle...is that really being suggested as a motive? It all just seems so blatant and assured to amplify racism it is difficult to understand from anyones perspective?
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:58 pm

It certainly was a coordinated and pre-planned attack, with some men even having little notes with translated phrases and words to shout at the women on them.

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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:44 pm

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Salomé wrote:
Entirely predictably, both ends of the political spectrum react in a manner that is too narrow and inadequate. The left refuses to acknowledge the racial/religious aspect of the story.

What is the religious part of the story?

Their religion teaches them women make up the majority of hell and that women need to be controlled and subjugated.

I remember reading about a UK pakistani who raped a UK woman simply because...she was out at night instead of knowing her place and being at home...and in his mind, he is justified. He considered this punishment and wanted to teach her a lesson which would be condoned by other Pakistani men. And assholes with this mindset continue to stream into the country.

I might sound bigoted myself, but when one of their radical religious leaders (Choudary) can boast that parts of the UK are now 30% muslim, I am very uncomfortable.

Be afraid....be very afraid.

And if it weren't bad enough in Europe, America's political leaders from both parties want to import MORE of these savages, not less:

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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Tue Jan 12, 2016 7:24 pm

Here's the 60 minutes video I was looking for:

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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Wed Jan 13, 2016 1:38 pm

The lefty fembots in Australia (Clementine Ford et al.) are all rushing to defend Germany's Musselman rape-army as a small minority whilst continuing to vilify all white males at home. Should finally remove any remaining doubt that Western leftists support dhimmitude over and above any purported concern for women (or gays or any other group the Mahometans don't like).
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Thu Mar 15, 2018 12:56 am

Far worse has been happening in Britain for at least 40 years, but it doesn't seem worth opening yet another thread. Here's Michael Gove's wife, Sarah Vine, in today’s Daily Mail:

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QUESTION: Why is it that when a middle-aged, white politician even so much as winks at a middle-class woman these days, Westminster howls sexual harassment; and yet, when large groups of Asian men systematically rape and torture underage girls over the course of several decades, the story barely registers a blip on the BBC news radar?

ANSWER: Could it be, perhaps, that #MeToo applies only if you’re a self-promoting journalist or an approved member of the Twitterati? Whereas, being white, poor and female means you’re fair game.

As for the BBC, still no mention of what is surely one of the biggest scandals of our time:

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Why do the state and BBC ignore mass child rape culture? Because they can’t handle the truth
Paul T Horgan -March 14, 2018

For more than a decade, thousands of girls were repeatedly raped by organised gangs of men in numerous towns in England. The dominating characteristic is that these municipalities were almost exclusively Labour-controlled and the abusers were of Asian heritage. Their victims were predominantly white working-class. A significant proportion were officially in the care of the local authority.

The rapes were ignored by those in authority at a national and local level for what appear to be political reasons. There are MPs who seem to wish to diminish the visibility of this scandal in the name of ‘diversity’ and ‘community relations’.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/why-do-state-and-bbc-ignore-mass-child-rape-culture-because-they-cant-handle-the-truth/
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Thu Mar 15, 2018 1:35 am

Wasn't there a similar scandal not too long ago? Was it Rotherham?
I honestly thought at the time that the case could not be isolated if there were similar communities elsewhere in Britain.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:35 pm

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Wasn't there a similar scandal not too long ago? Was it Rotherham?
I honestly thought at the time that the case could not be isolated if there were similar communities elsewhere in Britain.
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Any of this ring a bell?

Yep, exactly the same thing happened in Rotherham, South Yorks. Years of abuse went uncovered because the authorities didn’t want to upset Muslims. Political correctness stopped them doing their jobs properly.

They were more concerned about keeping the local Muslims happy and not inflaming local opinion than they were about the hundreds of young girls that had been raped. And the same story was repeated across the country. In Derby, in Oxford, in Bradford, in Burnley. Almost always Muslim men. Almost exclusively white girls.

And still nothing has changed. Have you seen much about the horrible Telford business on your BBC News programmes? Nope, me neither. It simply hasn’t figured. They don’t want to report it in case it stirs up anger against the Muslim community. So they’ve pretty much ignored it altogether. It didn’t even feature on their online news pages.

This decrepit, politically biased, institution is way past its sell-by date. It is not fit for purpose.

And it is part of the problem. The very attitude shown by the BBC is why these appalling crimes were not uncovered in the first place.

Don’t expect the Labour Party to say very much, either. Indeed, anyone in the party who dares to question why this sort of abuse and rape takes place is likely to get fired.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5813840/telford-abuse-scandal-no-one-cared-victims/
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Thu Mar 15, 2018 8:51 pm

Me2 is for the rich and famous.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Thu Mar 15, 2018 9:21 pm

When one of the original whistleblowers, Rose McGowan, suggested that wearing black dresses at award shows as a form of protest was a bit silly, she was attacked by her peers. It's pretty clear you have to fit within a very specific definition of victimhood to be allowed in.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 16, 2018 12:33 pm

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When one of the original whistleblowers, Rose McGowan, suggested that wearing black dresses at award shows as a form of protest was a bit silly, she was attacked by her peers. It's pretty clear you have to fit within a very specific definition of victimhood to be allowed in.

McGowan is a loose cannon, as well. Fighting sexism with sexism is... well, fucking idiotic and not productive.

Neo-feminists don't care about progress, though, despite claiming to be progressives. Tyranny is their goal and they're doing a damn good job in the United States.

But I'm just a white privileged male. What do I know?
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Sat Mar 17, 2018 12:47 am

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Ali was one of two leaders of a sexual grooming gang that preyed on girls as young as 13 in Telford.

Captured as part of Operation Chalice and jailed back in 2013, he has been told he will be released on licence as early as November.

https://www.shropshirestar.com/news/crime/2017/07/29/telford-sex-gang-ringleader-mubarek-ali-set-to-be-freed-early/

This is disgraceful.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:24 am

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Adult Afghan asylum seeker who lied he was a child refugee before raping and murdering EU official's daughter is jailed for life in Germany

If I presented that as a possible plotline it would be rightly rejected as too far-fetched.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5530867/Afghan-murdered-EU-officials-daughter-jailed-life-Germany.html
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:28 am

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Adult Afghan asylum seeker who lied he was a child refugee before raping and murdering EU official's daughter is jailed for life in Germany

If I presented that as a possible plotline it would be rightly rejected as too far-fetched.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5530867/Afghan-murdered-EU-officials-daughter-jailed-life-Germany.html

A very sad story. The most shocking thing is that he only served two years of a ten year sentence for an attempted murder in Greece.
I don't see the upside to any civilized society to violent criminals getting lenient sentences.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 12:35 am

A very sad and completely avoidable story.

I don't see the upside to any civilized society encouraging millions of economic migrants unless they have useful skills. In far too many cases they are uneducated, hostile, unable to speak the language and possess completely unacceptable attitudes to women. Genuine refugees are another matter, of course.

Wishful thinking’s victory over pragmatism is the overwhelming factor in the decline of the West.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:18 am

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A very sad and completely avoidable story.

I don't see the upside to any civilized society encouraging millions of economic migrants unless they have useful skills. In far too many cases they are uneducated, hostile, unable to speak the language and possess completely unacceptable attitudes to women. Genuine refugees are another matter, of course.

Wishful thinking’s victory over pragmatism is the overwhelming factor in the decline of the West.

I'm not an uncritical idiot who thinks unbridled migration is utopian and without many issues, but it's not like murder and rape were imported into German society in 2015 with Frau Merkel's "Wir schaffen das!".
I would be very happy if all men found guilty of such crimes got more serious prison sentences.
If this man had been properly punished for his first attempted murder of a woman in Greece, Maria would still be alive today.
These stories are invariable also about a failure of the criminal justice system.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 1:55 am

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It's not like murder and rape were imported into German society in 2015 with Frau Merkel's "Wir schaffen das!".
I would be very happy if all men found guilty of such crimes got more serious prison sentences.

Very true. They were not imported into Germany but the entire EU thanks to Schengen and its bullshit dismantlement of nation states and borders. As is so often the case, Merkel acted with complete disregard for the interests of the other members states in her action. England and Wales responded appropriately the following year with an overwhelming Fuck Off.

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If this man had been properly punished for his first attempted murder of a woman in Greece, Maria would still be alive today.
These stories are invariable also about a failure of the criminal justice system.

A straw man argument - if Hussein Khavari hadn’t been allowed into Greece then one woman wouldn’t have been thrown over a cliff and left for dead, and Maria Ladenburger wouldn’t have been murdered. Khavari should not have been in Europe at all but the EU said otherwise.

Anyone with any sense, youth, skill and money should be preparing to leave the EU for Australasia. Europe is fucked.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:38 am

It's not exactly a strawman argument but more of a general observation about the failings of the criminal justice system across European borders in properly sentencing violent criminals. Whether or not he should have been in Europe, had he been properly punished after his first violent crime, at least one woman would still be alive today.

And I won't quite pack my bags and head for Cambodia just yet. ROTFLMAO
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:29 am

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European borders

The Schengen Area abolished passport controls and border checks between Greece and Germany (and 24 other EU vassal states).

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And I won't quite pack my bags and head for Cambodia just yet. ROTFLMAO

Cambodia is not in Australasia. Carry on laughing.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:17 am

As I recall, the UK was never in Schengen.

Also not entirely clear what I'm supposed to be so terrified of.
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PostSubject: Re: Sexual assaults in Köln   Fri Mar 23, 2018 9:11 am

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As I recall, the UK was never in Schengen.

It's a well-kept secret, but the UK is leaving the EU. Also applying for island status.

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Also not entirely clear what I'm supposed to be so terrified of.

European history. A complete nightmare. Oh, and men. Monsters, the lot of them.

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