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These regulations are aimed at 'pay-to-watch' online porn. Who the hell's still paying to watch it?

Anyway, of course the Government should do all it can to clamp down on the paedo stuff. But stay the fuck away from stuff that features and is consumed by consenting adults.


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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 27, 2014 5:10 pm

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On a related note, the UK is now the fifth biggest economy in the world as France turned to the socialists and self-destructed as expected. All of which means that the EU is on track to lose its second biggest economy and one of a select few which pays a lot more to Brussels than it receives. Not sure why the Eurocrats are so happy about that, but then again fiscal responsibility hasn't been at the heart of the European Project since the Euro began.

Of course these things do tend to come at a price.

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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 27, 2014 5:15 pm

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Of course these things do tend to come at a price.

That's very true. Just doing my tax return.

People who contribute to foodbank charities should take a look at the executive cars and management salaries in that sector. Nice little earner they've got going for themselves.

The point was rather that whilst the economy is supposedly blooming, more people required the help of foodbanks.
So I guess all that wealth is going to a rather small group?
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 27, 2014 5:56 pm

I guess food banks are perceived quite differently in Britain.

Over here they come with a social stigma that makes people who could genuinely use them feel too proud to do so.

If the demand is supposedly constant because people like free hand-outs regardless of their situation, then why has there been such a huge boom in a half-decade?
Wouldn't the freeloaders have been around back then as well?
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySat Dec 27, 2014 6:32 pm

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I guess food banks are perceived quite differently in Britain.

Over here they come with a social stigma that makes people who could genuinely use them feel too proud to do so.

If the demand is supposedly constant because people like free hand-outs regardless of their situation, then why has there been such a huge boom in a half-decade?
Wouldn't the freeloaders have been around back then as well?

The Welfare State has created a dependency culture in Britain that is both repulsive and distressing. There are millions of unemployed in the UK, many of whom have never worked since leaving school, yet at the same time Britain is importing million of migrant workers.  

Basic arithmetic suggests there is a contradiction in that and also a conclusion that no one wants to draw.

That the unemployed do not possess the required skills or training to fill the jobs that are vacant?
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 28, 2014 9:25 am

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Nigel Farage has condemned a phone app made by schoolchildren featuring a character called Nicholas Fromage kicking immigrants off the white cliffs of Dover.

The UKIP leader said the game where players kick immigrants as far as possible to gain the highest ‘racism’ rating is ‘risible and pathetic’ and ‘crosses the line’.

Come off it Nigel, you cannot have it both ways. If you want to go on calling people pooftahs and chinkies, you should also accept cultural expressions of distaste for you and your ilk.

http://metro.co.uk/2014/12/22/nigel-farage-upset-over-game-showing-nicholas-fromage-kicking-immigrants-off-a-cliff-4996286/
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 28, 2014 11:37 am

Farage is a Mosley wannabe in clubland drag, can't stand the to**er. Like most rampant nationalists he blames others for the shortcomings of his own country, such a whiny creep who never had to produce anything but headlines and gets applauded for it by other whiny folk. You against the welfare state, Erica? Farage and his gang live just as much on your welfare as the peeps you claim live off your taxes. If welfare is so much more attractive I wonder why you still work, you don't seem to enjoy it at all.
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Unless you buy into Germany's Aryan nonsense, complaining about uncontrolled EU migration to the UK can hardly be racist: these are different nationalities not different races.

Just strange that Germany has become the favourite country for EU migrants, not your beloved UK I quoted this somewhere but since it doesn't fit into your fantasy of Merry Olde England being bullied by the evil evil Aryans you chose to ignore it. Hey, who's playin the racist card there with the Aryans? Strikes me that would be you Erica. Are you truly afraid EU migrants take away your job? They work jobs you wouldn't touch with your keyboard from the other end of the world! And they pay taxes for it, as strange as that must look to you. My, you feel threatened by migration you better should get your a** up. If it's really a threat to your precious lifestyle it's high time for big kick,in your a**.






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Farage has made a statement about prejudice recently, though it was hardly reported:

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Nigel Farage suggested Muslims were to blame for a disturbing increase in anti-Semitism in Britain.

Speaking on LBC radio, the Ukip leader condemned anti-Jewish attacks and claimed a sharp increase was down to Muslims that oppose Israel's right to exist.

Figures from the Mayor of London's office this week revealed hate crime against Jews have rocketed by almost 100% over the past year.

Farage said: "I have detected quite a sharp rise in anti-Semitism in Britain and across the EU. What's fueling it is there are many more Muslim voices and some of them are deeply critical of Israel and some of them question Israel's right to exist.

"We've got this counter voice which is deeply critical. This is one of the challenges we face; when you've got more groups [to deal with]."

Political correctness may also play in a role in fueling anti-Semitism, claimed the leader of Ukip - which now has MPs following by-election victories in recent months.

Farage said public figures and politicians are reluctant to condemn anti-Jewish actions for fear of offending Muslim sensibilities.

"There's a lot of people in politics who would be nervous about speaking up about anti-Semitism. I feel we've not being doing enough in defending the Jewish right to have a homeland because we are worried of offending another group" he said.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukip-leader-nigel-farage-muslims-responsible-rising-anti-semitism-uk-1478218



Probably right to put the blame for the rise in hate crimes at least partially on the Muslim door even though part of UKIPers will be just as happy to drive Jews out country with Muslims and Europeans. Also the easiest thing to do for populist bullsh***ers to jump this trainfor their own ends. Does Farage really care about it? I don't buy it. If you do that's your problem then.
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptySun Dec 28, 2014 1:00 pm

From that leftist, Marxist rag that is the Economist:

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It is not your fault that most of our countrymen don’t want you. Partly, the problem is the Poles. Ten years ago, when Britain was one of only three countries to open its doors to them, the government assured voters that just a few tens of thousands would come, and probably not for long. Instead more than half a million arrived. And, as well as being workers who cut cabbages and painted walls (displacing some British labourers by the simple expedient of turning up on time), they proved to be human beings who settled down and had children. We weren’t fully prepared for that.

But if our leaders were wrong a decade ago about the number of Poles and other east Europeans who would come to Britain, they are more wrong now about their effect on the country. Politicians claim they are a burden on public services already stretched thin by austerity. Nonsense: being young and able-bodied, they don’t use them much. And because they contribute more to the Treasury in taxes than they take out in benefits and services—about 35% more, according to a plausible estimate—they save our schools and hospitals from deeper cuts. They don’t depress wages much, and mostly among other immigrant workers. They make our economy bigger, lowering our debt-to-GDP ratio. If you are even remotely like them, you will be an economic boon.

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From that leftist, Marxist rag that is the Economist:

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It is not your fault that most of our countrymen don’t want you. Partly, the problem is the Poles. Ten years ago, when Britain was one of only three countries to open its doors to them, the government assured voters that just a few tens of thousands would come, and probably not for long. Instead more than half a million arrived. And, as well as being workers who cut cabbages and painted walls (displacing some British labourers by the simple expedient of turning up on time), they proved to be human beings who settled down and had children. We weren’t fully prepared for that.

But if our leaders were wrong a decade ago about the number of Poles and other east Europeans who would come to Britain, they are more wrong now about their effect on the country. Politicians claim they are a burden on public services already stretched thin by austerity. Nonsense: being young and able-bodied, they don’t use them much. And because they contribute more to the Treasury in taxes than they take out in benefits and services—about 35% more, according to a plausible estimate—they save our schools and hospitals from deeper cuts. They don’t depress wages much, and mostly among other immigrant workers. They make our economy bigger, lowering our debt-to-GDP ratio. If you are even remotely like them, you will be an economic boon.

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/21591865-open-letter-citizens-bulgaria-and-romania-youre-welcome


Yay! Quoted for f***ing truth! Gotta hate these bl**dy Marxists, specially when they are right.
Let's bash the Germans some more, just a few years after the war they already had better living standards again than most other countries. Couldn't be they didn't do all the work themselves, that Turks and Italians and what else they invited helped building up their country just as much asAryan effort? That possible, what with all the work and taxes they put into it?

Please let's cut this BS about uncontrolled EU migration, nothing's uncontrolled about it,mEach EU member has the option to define specifics to protect its social systems. Of course if you're set to put the blame on Brussels, or Berlin for the upstanding German haters, you just have to leave, fine with me. Will be funny to see Farage and friends look for other people to blame, guess Scotland would make a good stand in.
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It's clear this discussion has taken on a personal dimension and any further comment from me can only make things worse. I won't do this anymore.





C'mon. Nothing's personal. Gotta share the country bit longer anyway, no reason t get annoyed.
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It's clear this discussion has taken on a personal dimension and any further comment from me can only make things worse. I won't do this anymore.

Hmm, okay, but I don't think the Economist piece I linked to suggested a personal turn from my end. Quite the contrary.
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 29, 2014 8:46 am

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Farage is a Mosley wannabe in clubland drag

Except for how Mosley wanted a federal Europe...
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PostSubject: Re: British Politics thread   British Politics thread - Page 9 EmptyMon Dec 29, 2014 12:30 pm

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Farage is a Mosley wannabe in clubland drag

Except for how Mosley wanted a federal Europe...

[cough] Churchill [cough]

For different reasons maybe, and Mosley didn't want federal, he just liked to call it that to be Britain's own little leader. As for Farage, phew, for a guy so against it he accepts the funds fromtheEuropean Parliament readily enough. Do you need more evidence for a scoundrel? I don't, guy's a s**t and would sell his followers the moment the price is right. No, thanks.
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It could be worse Ambler.
We once had a finance minister who - when asked during a radio show where kids could ask her questions - failed to give an answer to "what is the square root of 64". sarcasm
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