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PostSubject: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:42 am



I'd like to ask you for your thoughts on the sound torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?

In the scene in question the villain Dr Anton Murik and his assistant Mary-Jane Mashkin apply white noise to Bond's ears in a white tiled torture chamber.

What did you think of it?

Have you any praise for it or criticisms of it?

Was it too tame (as some commentators have said) or something refreshingly different?

How would you rank it alongside the other torture scenes by Ian Fleming, Kingsley Amis and John Gardner himself?

I'd love to hear from you!   smile
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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:21 pm

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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:38 pm

I confess the only non Fleming Bond I have read is Col Sun ...oh and the Christopher Wood adaptations his two movie scripts MR And TSWLM. I may be tempted to a Gardner novel if it is well regarded here but the described sequence brings to mind the one in 'Puppet on a Chain' which comes across fun but somehow never rang quite true (pun intended).
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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:44 am

lachesis wrote:
I confess the only non Fleming Bond I have read is Col Sun ...oh and the Christopher Wood adaptations his two movie scripts MR And TSWLM. I may be tempted to a Gardner novel if it is well regarded here but the described sequence brings to mind the one in 'Puppet on a Chain' which comes across fun but somehow never rang quite true (pun intended).

Similarly, I haven't read any of the continuation novels, though I do have Solo and Carte Blanche on the shelf for a rainy day.

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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 6:44 am

Thank you both for your replies. I have recently bought a copy of Maclean's Puppet on A Chain and look forward to reading it to see how the scene matches up to Gardner's version of the sound torture in Licence Renewed.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Sat Apr 01, 2017 9:52 pm

lachesis wrote:
I confess the only non Fleming Bond I have read is Col Sun ...oh and the Christopher Wood adaptations his two movie scripts MR And TSWLM. I may be tempted to a Gardner novel if it is well regarded here but the described sequence brings to mind the one in 'Puppet on a Chain' which comes across fun but somehow never rang quite true (pun intended).

The 'electrodes on Bond's testicles' torture scene in the TSWLM tie-in novel seems oddly out of place in an age when the films were comfortably being classified as PG/A certificate. I can only presume it was in the original screenplay only for Wood to be told 'We can't possibly do this'.
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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:37 pm

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lachesis wrote:
I confess the only non Fleming Bond I have read is Col Sun ...oh and the Christopher Wood adaptations his two movie scripts MR And TSWLM. I may be tempted to a Gardner novel if it is well regarded here but the described sequence brings to mind the one in 'Puppet on a Chain' which comes across fun but somehow never rang quite true (pun intended).

The 'electrodes on Bond's testicles' torture scene in the TSWLM tie-in novel seems oddly out of place in an age when the films were comfortably being classified as PG/A certificate. I can only presume it was in the original screenplay only for Wood to be told 'We can't possibly do this'.      

I should really get onto these continuation novels. They sound so wacky. laugh
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PostSubject: Re: The Sound Torture scene in John Gardner's Licence Renewed (1981)?   Mon Apr 03, 2017 3:20 am

Hehehe.

I'm sure it's been mentioned elsewhere around here but SPECTRE'S torture scene was an adaptation of the one in Colonel Sun, with that nasty drill taking the place of sharpened bamboo shoots.
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