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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 4:39 am

Some of the most damning accusations aren't in that overview, likely because that piece predates them becoming public knowledge.

Among them Annabella Sciorra's:

http://people.com/movies/annabella-sciorra-harvey-weinstein-daryl-hannah-recalls-scary-incidents-in-new-expose/
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 5:02 am

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/louis-cks-movie-premiere-canceled-advance-ny-times-story-1056585

Sounds like Louis C.K. is the latest one who will be publicly accused.
There have been rumours out there about him for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:14 am

Naturally Woody Allen's name is dragged through the mud, too.

Never heard of the film that got pulled. Sounds interesting though, and with an excellent cast.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 7:43 am

The Louis C.K. rumours about him cornering young female comedians and forcing them to watch him masturbate are pretty old. It is a bit surreal to see all of this happening in quick succession.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:19 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:30 am

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How do you force someone to watch you masturbate? Is it like A Clockwork Orange?


It's been years since I've read the accounts, but I think the context was a backstage area at a comedy club where he locked himself and the woman in question in the green room and did not allow her to leave the locked space until he was done. Supposedly this was a regular occurrence and something he passed off as an extreme joke.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:33 am

http://gawker.com/5894527/which-beloved-comedian-likes-to-force-female-comics-to-watch-him-jerk-off

I knew it was ages ago when I first read about this. This Gawker piece is over five years old.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sat Nov 11, 2017 3:47 am

Huh. Looks like this backlash has even reached our little backwater.
A TV personality with a thirty year relationship with the state broadcaster was just ousted due to inappropriate behavior. The details are vague but seem to be about harassing and sexually propositioning female employees and collaborators.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sat Nov 11, 2017 10:51 am

Here's Louis C.K. confirming that the allegations are true. 

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/10/entertainment/louis-ck-apology/index.html?sr=fbCNN111017louis-ck-apology0137PMStoryLink 

Louis C.K. wrote:
These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true," he wrote. "But what I learned later in life, too late, is that when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your dick isn't a question. It's a predicament for them. The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly...

There is nothing about this that I forgive myself for. And I have to reconcile it with who I am. Which is nothing compared to the task I left them with ... The hardest regret to live with is what you've done to hurt someone else
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:27 am

George Takei's been accused of groping back in the eighties and Richard Dreyfuss exposing himself to a writer, also in the 80s. Bit of a merry-go-round.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 3:12 pm

http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/celebrity-life/celebrities-gone-bad/steven-seagal-accused-of-telling-actress-to-sit-on-his-face/news-story/6746e8bbdd4ceb20a745ed10f5a6d457



Of all the actors - using that term loosely here - to have accusations leveled at them, I'd say The Seagull is the least surprising one.  laugh
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 8:31 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:11 pm

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She looks so unhappy.

If that is Katherine Heigl and this was taken around the time they shot "Under Siege 2", then she is around 16 in that picture.



And I see she actually talked about this on a talk show.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 9:55 pm

This just in : these revelations mean that Seagal's career will remain laughable.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Sun Nov 12, 2017 10:00 pm

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This just in : these revelations mean that Seagal's career will remain laughable.  

Having to sleep with Steven Seagal to get a role in a Steven Seagal movie is indeed a grim point in any actresses' career.
A moment when one could not be blamed to reconsider one's life choices.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:03 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 5:28 am

That article is ironic considering that Ronan Farrow had been working on that Weinstein piece for ages and had to shop it around for a long time before he found a publication brave enough to publish it.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 6:44 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 9:36 am

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That article is ironic considering that Ronan Farrow had been working on that Weinstein piece for ages and had to shop it around for a long time before he found a publication brave enough to publish it.

Here I was thinking, 'Ronan Farrow is just another rich kid with daddy issues', but you sure showed me.

Motherfucker is one brave trustifarian.

His privileged background is not really the point I was trying to make.
Rather the fact that he struggled to find anyone willing to publish that piece.
Which stands in sharp contrast to how some publications are now rushing these stories out.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 1:42 pm

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Erica Ambler wrote:
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That article is ironic considering that Ronan Farrow had been working on that Weinstein piece for ages and had to shop it around for a long time before he found a publication brave enough to publish it.

Here I was thinking, 'Ronan Farrow is just another rich kid with daddy issues', but you sure showed me.

Motherfucker is one brave trustifarian.

His privileged background is not really the point I was trying to make.
Rather the fact that he struggled to find anyone willing to publish that piece.
Which stands in sharp contrast to how some publications are now rushing these stories out.

His own network wasn't willing to cover the story (he's hinted he'll have more to say about NBC News' reluctance to tackle this story at a later date). Farrow also said he never felt more threatened or in danger on a story except for when in Afghanistan; said some real dark forces were following him and trying to threaten him off this story and the intimidation and harassment was real. So good for him to keep on reporting anyway, and good for these actresses to come forward.

But in the end this will not change much. Sex harassment and rape will continue as it has since the dawn of man. American politics are in a gutter I can't ever recall being in so deeply. Child molestor's running for Senate seats; a President that admits he likes to walk in on pageant contestants while they are changing clothes; a previous President who exposed himself to women and raped others and a wife that stood dutifully by like Jerry Sandusky's wife and buried her head in the sand. This is as low as I can ever remember it. A country tearing itself apart, in part, because it truly has no moral code or center anymore.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Mon Nov 13, 2017 7:10 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:25 am

The focus on Ronan Farrow is a bit odd. Would the Weinstein story been more acceptable had it been broken by someone who wasn't born on third base?
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Tue Nov 14, 2017 2:52 am

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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:48 am

Right, but the Weinstein story is now corroborated by so many different sources that it seems unlikely it could be a complete fabrication. If Ronan Farrow was capable of making dozens of women lie on the record that would make him one of the most powerful men in the media.
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PostSubject: Re: Hollywoodies.   Tue Nov 14, 2017 3:54 am

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