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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Tue Aug 07, 2018 5:07 am

I must try not to be too smug when those divorces start landing.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:46 am

There's room for a gay superagent, a black superagent, a female superagent, etc. - bring 'em on!

But none of them have to be named James Bond. Leave us hetero (ie: 'sexist, misogynist') dinosaurs something!
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Wed Aug 08, 2018 10:06 am

Yep. Equality doesn't mean invading an existing franchise and claiming it something else. Equality is developing a separate series of films and books that have the appeal to transcend generations.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Wed Aug 08, 2018 5:38 pm

This is why I have little interest in all of the gender-swapped franchises like "Ghostbusters" and "Ocean's 8". I also don't understand why the actresses involved in those are excited by the prospect of just redoing something that has already been done before.

It's also why I have some time for "355", a female led spy thriller which is original material.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Wed Aug 08, 2018 6:59 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 12:46 am

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Yep. Equality doesn't mean invading an existing franchise and claiming it something else. Equality is developing a separate series of films and books that have the appeal to transcend generations.

Alas, they're not interested in equality. Supremacy and forced subordination of the majority is their game. Making Bond anything he's not supposed to be is one demarche in this civilizational gambit.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:07 am

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:59 am

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He arguably forces himself on Pussy (steady) in the barn scene in GF, too.

But hey. Different times.  

She embraces him, but it is also pretty creepy. Just not as creepy as coercing a woman to have sex with you or else she'd lose her job. Doesn't matter to me if that was "acceptable" in the 1960s, it's just plain gross.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:39 am

Erica Ambler wrote:
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Yep. Equality doesn't mean invading an existing franchise and claiming it something else. Equality is developing a separate series of films and books that have the appeal to transcend generations.

Alas, they're not interested in equality. Supremacy and forced subordination of the majority is their game. Making Bond anything he's not supposed to be is one demarche in this civilizational gambit.

Plus he who controls the past controls the future; the left is rewriting fact and fiction, whether historical or James Bond. And it needs to, because reality provides no basis for any of its beliefs.

If that's the case-- which I don't disagree with, by the way-- why are you behind the casting of Idris Elba in the role when it's rewriting who Bond is?

Why can't Elba have his own spy to play?
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 10:58 am

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 11:58 am

Black people aren't the same as white people.

That's the argument.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 1:35 pm

It really isn't MP.

Bond is as Ambler describes, with Scottish and Swiss roots, written with Hoagy Carmichael in mind as guide for Bond's appearance.

This is about casting. Casting someone who fits the bill both physically as well as characteristically.

In Ambler's words:

Erica Ambler wrote:
Plus he who controls the past controls the future; the left is rewriting fact and fiction, whether historical or James Bond. And it needs to, because reality provides no basis for any of its beliefs.

The reality is Bond is white, and it's the left who's trying to rewrite Bond as something otherwise.

I love this quote:

Milton Friedman wrote:
A society that puts equality ahead of freedom will get neither. A society that puts freedom ahead of equality will get a high degree of both

Someone who is black, white, yellow and anything in between has the freedom to make their own series.

Unfortunately it's fashionable to achieve only tokenistic equality, so those genuinely hoping to see a social shift won't get it. The left are more concerned with making statements than gearing for positive change.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 3:54 pm

Except we have Daniel Craig, who's largely been embraced, that doesn't exactly fit the descriptions of Fleming's Bond beyond "white male". We're pretty far from Fleming at this point, so it no longer matters.

We already have a black Felix Leiter. I don't think anyone but the most rigid Bond fans gives a crap.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:42 pm

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Black people aren't the same as white people.

That's the argument.

By that reasoning, Tom Hiddleston would make a better James Bond than Idris Elba which is an almost absurd notion.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:45 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 6:46 pm

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It's all about setting; If Bond is set in the present there's no reason why 007 shouldn't be black. Obviously it's a different matter if you want to make a period piece.

In both scenarios, Tom Hiddleston would make a poor choice of a James Bond.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Thu Aug 09, 2018 7:03 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:42 am

Tom Hiddleston wouldn't make a good Bond either. The only well known actor who would fit the bill is Michael Fassbender, otherwise go for a lesser known actor who has the qualities that make Bond, Bond.

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Except we have Daniel Craig, who's largely been embraced, that doesn't exactly fit the descriptions of Fleming's Bond beyond "white male". We're pretty far from Fleming at this point, so it no longer matters.

We already have a black Felix Leiter. I don't think anyone but the most rigid Bond fans gives a crap.

Just because something is, it doesn't mean it's good. Daniel Craig was never right for the role.

And as I alluded to in an earlier post, Jeffrey Wright's casting was a statement. His portrayal is about as bland as Rik Van Nutter's or John Terry's, so it's not as though he cast for his magnetic screen presence.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Fri Aug 10, 2018 10:57 am

I've said it before, but here goes:
Alex Price!
(Sid Carter on Father Brown and one of Doctor Who's Vampires of Venice.)


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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Fri Aug 10, 2018 5:07 pm

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And as I alluded to in an earlier post, Jeffrey Wright's casting was a statement. His portrayal is about as bland as Rik Van Nutter's or John Terry's, so it's not as though he cast for his magnetic screen presence.

I disagree, he's got a lot more presence than Van Nutter and Terry, which makes his under-utilization in QOS that more disappointing. He's not getting the work he's getting these days just because it's a casting statement. I'm pretty sure he also got the gig because Craig recommended him after working with him prior to Bond.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Sat Aug 11, 2018 12:36 am

Director Antoine Fuqua supposedly had a recent conversation with Babs in which she said that 'the time is right' for a black Bond.

The shoddy Daily Star tabloid is the source, though.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:56 am

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Director Antoine Fuqua supposedly had a recent conversation with Babs in which she said that 'the time is right' for a black Bond.

The shoddy Daily Star tabloid is the source, though.  

I think Babs might have seen the box office receipts for BLACK PANTHER, hence "the time is right". It was a bigger hit than any Bond film has ever been, and that was just the first film.

If there's a black Bond, I'd like to see Chiwetel Ejiofor get the gig.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Sat Aug 11, 2018 9:21 am

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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Sat Aug 11, 2018 7:16 pm

I think Ejiofor is sexy, but his appeal lacks the darkness and danger that Idris does possess.
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PostSubject: Re: Brosnan: #MeToo shouldn't affect Bond   Sun Aug 12, 2018 3:49 am

I wouldn't discount the possibility of the next Bond veering toward a lighter take like Roger Moore's.
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