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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Sun Sep 23, 2018 9:12 pm

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Kiss Me Deadly - where the bad, bad, girl opens the box and the world goes up in smoke - ‘Whoever opens this box will be turned into brimstone and ashes.’

Supposedly Tarantino's inspiration for the briefcase in "Pulp Fiction".

Ralph Meeker is an underrated actor. He's terrific in "The Naked Spur" too.

'What’s in the box?’ is probably my favourite Mcguffin, though few have done it as well as Kiss Me Deadly - it says something about declining standards of education that even a pulp b-movie had classical overtones back then. 


Meeker is superb as you say. Lots of good performances, though, including Cloris Leachman and Gaby Rodgers. We all know what happened to Cloris, but I can’t recall seeing Gaby in anything else...
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:38 pm

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I think film as an art form is dead.

Perhaps that's not entirely true. Neon Demon, my favourite film of 2016, has moments of splendour, albeit somewhat truncated here.

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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:24 am

I'll be boring and go with a film that might not be a great classic, but one I tend to watch around this time most years -Battle of Britain

one scene I can't find on YouTube, and it's very brief, when Susannah York's WAAF S/O Harvey is stopped by Station Commander Kenny More about her husband, Colin (Chris' Plummer) being shot down. Goodwin's music helps but the clincher is when after More tells her she can get a posting near her husband (Plummer having spent all film badgering her to do just that), she bluntly asks:
"Is he badly burned?"
More's face says it all. Slight moistness to the eyes, tightening of the jaw (stiff uppers as Leslie Phillips would say) and no words.

But otherwise, this scene earlier (where Plummer's raw recruits give it to the Germans over the North Sea, culminating in Goodwin's theme triumphantly kicking in)



Watching Bridge Too Far the other day there's a couple that have always lingered in the memory. Frost's capture at the bridge (being given chocolate that should've been dropped to him, by Max Schell), the human roadblock, the capture of Nijmegen Bridge (Hardy Kruger's incredulous expression and Addison's music as XXX Corps race over) and Connery's scene with Bogarde at the end. Urquhart in reality probably was close to striking Browning.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Tue Sep 25, 2018 7:37 pm

The Battle of Britain is not a great film in the generally accepted sense of the word. It is an important one.

1. It told the story of Britain’s, the Commonwealth’s, Poland’s and Czechoslovakia’s heroic stand against the Germans at a time when the rest of Europe rolled over. Including France, then the possessor of the most modern air force in the world, hardly any of which it put in the air. Obviously, these are inconvenient facts in today's German-dominated EU and to the cowardly UK elite. All of which makes a film such as The Battle of Britain increasingly important.

2. The Battle of Britain is an amazing technical achievement (no CGI!) and kick-started the aircraft preservation movement in the UK, which is still in good shape today. Despite the constant interference from HM Elf and Safety.

3. The Battle of Britain showed that Harry Saltzman was the real talent in the Bond series, not Albert Broccoli; another inconvenient fact. Unlike Broccoli, Saltzman made big and important films outside of the 007 series, yet has been almost airbrushed out of history.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:04 pm

I believe that Belgium actually had the highest number of pilots outside of the Commonwealth and Eastern-Europe in the Battle of Britain. Which is odd considering how tiny we are and how relatively small our air force was. Certainly you would have expected the French to have provided significantly more pilots.
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PostSubject: Re: Favorite movie scenes   Tue Sep 25, 2018 8:17 pm

You are correct; Belgium made a large contribution. There is a little-known but excellent American analysis of the Armée de l'Air performance in Air University Review, reprinted here:

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The French Air Force In 1940: Was It Defeated by the Luftwaffe or by Politics?
by Lieutenant Colonel Faris R. Kirkland

Since the mid-1960s, fragments of information--aviator's memoirs, production reports, aircraft inventories, and Anglo-French correspondence--have come to light. These sources reveal four new facts about the French Air Force.

   The French aviation industry (with modest assistance--about 15 percent-from American and Dutch producers) had produced enough modern combat aircraft (4360) by May 1940 to defeat the Luftwaffe, which fielded a force of 3270.

   The French planes were comparable in combat capability and performance to the German aircraft.

   The French had only about one-fourth of their modern combat aircraft in operational formations on the Western Front on 10 May 1940.

   The Royal Air Force stationed a larger proportion (30 percent) of its fighter force in France than the French committed from their own resources (25 percent).

These data exculpate the prewar parliamentary regime and the British. They raise questions about the leadership of an air force that had parity in numbers of aircraft, the aid of a powerful ally, the latest radar, and the most advanced aviation technology in Europe, yet lost a defensive battle over its own territory.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3073707/posts

All of which is true and makes an interesting contrast to the complete bullshit in the Armée de l'Air entry on Wiki.
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