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PostSubject: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 12:00 am

Do Blu-Ray DVDs have completely separate music, SFX, video, etc. tracks? I'm wondering as "Obsession" is coming out on Blu-Ray soon, and it'd be great if the entire isolated score could be ripped from it.

I bet something would get in the way, however, but figured I'd ask.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 2:11 am

Well Brown, first thing you should know is that Blu-rays aren't DVDs, so some stuck-up videophile might take issue with your name for them. ;)

If you're talking about something like the TND DVD, I think it's just on a case-by-case basis. Some of them come with the separate tracks, but not all.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 3:55 am

Wade, I think what Brown means is ripping the movie - and then isolating the separate DTS/Dolby whatever channels. Usually it's the rear channel for the score.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 4:58 am

Jack Wade wrote:
Well Brown, first thing you should know is that Blu-rays aren't DVDs, so some stuck-up videophile might take issue with your name for them. ;)

laugh

I'll keep that in mind then.

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Wade, I think what Brown means is ripping the movie - and then isolating the separate DTS/Dolby whatever channels. Usually it's the rear channel for the score.

Yeah. Something like that.

Is it possible to do that with all Blu-Ray films? Or only certain ones that have the channels setup accordingly?
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 5:16 am

Mr. Brown wrote:

Is it possible to do that with all Blu-Ray films? Or only certain ones that have the channels setup accordingly?

This might help.

It should work for all Blu-rays with 5.1 surround, so there's no problems of certain ones being of a different confirmation. The only thing you have to look out for is copyright protection, but nearly all rippers can bypass that.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 5:19 am

Might be good news for fans of the score, then.

I'm sure a bootlegger is going to attempt it at one point or another.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 5:50 am

Don't count on it. Bootleggers tend to be kidz, so they'll likely neglect any mostly unreleased Herrmann score (i.e. this, along with IT'S ALIVE, THE SNOWS OF KILIMANJARO, BRIDE WORE BLACK et al)

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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 12:28 pm

I get the impression it's much harder to rip BDs.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Fri May 13, 2011 3:47 pm

Jack Wade wrote:
I get the impression it's much harder to rip BDs.

BD has better copy protection than DVD's, but most BD's are largely rippable with the right decoders. Now it's less of a matter of copy protection and more of a matter of having the right hardware.
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PostSubject: Re: Technical question about Blu-Ray DVDs   Sat May 14, 2011 3:36 am

It really depends on the age of the film Brown, I know this from years of isolating dialog for my trailers. A newer film that was originally mixed with 5.1 would have the best results. Otherwise, if it's a stereo or mono conversion of a classic film (Obsession) you won't have much luck. Even then it's iffy. It really depends on the balance of the sound mix. The music is usually assigned to the rear speakers, and the dialog in the Center speaker.

Blu-Ray's wouldn't be any different I'm pretty sure.

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