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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:20 pm

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There's some great ad lib wailing guitar stuff, usually serving as a quasi-counterpoint to the main melody. Ambrose's theme is superb, as is the funky MI theme arrangement here:





Stirring (ablate somewhat overblown) stuff.
Boy, do I haaaaaaaaate those tracks.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:21 pm

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Sharky wrote:
There's some great ad lib wailing guitar stuff, usually serving as a quasi-counterpoint to the main melody. Ambrose's theme is superb, as is the funky MI theme arrangement here:





Stirring (ablate somewhat overblown) stuff.

Boy, do I haaaaaaaaate those tracks.

I did too about a year ago, and then I saw the light.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:26 pm

What narcotics have you started taking in the past year, Sharky?
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:28 pm

In addition to Armond White, that is.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:34 pm

Sharky wrote:
Harmsway wrote:
Sharky wrote:
There's some great ad lib wailing guitar stuff, usually serving as a quasi-counterpoint to the main melody. Ambrose's theme is superb, as is the funky MI theme arrangement here:





Stirring (ablate somewhat overblown) stuff.

Boy, do I haaaaaaaaate those tracks.

I did too about a year ago, and then I saw the light.

There's nothing particularly wrong with this music. The M:I-2 score is, at the very least, vastly superior to the M:I-iii one (can't comment on GHOST PROTOCOL yet, I guess, but from what little I've heard of its score I'd say it's rubbish).
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 1:36 pm

It's like nails on a chalkboard to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 3:09 pm

It's like Giacchino took his "Incredibles" score, made it louder and threw in a metric shit ton of the "M:I" theme. Basically a more obnoxious (but less electronic) version of Arnold's "Tomorrow Never Dies" score, if I say so myself.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Sun Dec 18, 2011 6:00 pm

I'd say Arnold had a little more flair going for his work. Giacchino just sounds lazier with these tentpole blockbusters. Should just stuck with PIXAR flicks.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Mon Dec 19, 2011 6:30 am

I think Giacchino's theme for M:I 4 is more interesting than his theme for M:I 3.

It's kind of sloppy, but kind of catchy at the same time.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Tue Dec 20, 2011 7:29 pm

One little nugget I noticed in GHOST PROTOCOL. Andreas Wisniewski reprises his small role from the DePalma flick, only there for a few seconds though.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Tue Dec 27, 2011 10:20 am

Movie has done well, I'm glad it came out on top over this weekend and is predicted to outdo MI3 by far and perhaps get up to what the first movie made.

ps Seen it 2x so far...
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:23 am

Saw GHOST PROTOCOL earlier today and enjoyed it very much. It's certainly a massive improvement over M:I-3. This time round, Ethan Hunt and his team aren't obnoxious, and the film doesn't just zip from one seemingly-randomly-chosen location to another in order to deliver nothing but loud, incoherent, numbing action. Brad Bird actually bothers to create some suspense for his setpieces (notably in the superb Kremlin infiltration near the start), and there's also a visual wit to his direction of thrills and spills that would have been the envy of Spielberg circa RAIDERS (the sandstorm pursuit plays like a great lost moment from the first Indy flick).

GHOST PROTOCOL is not without flaws. Its first hour or so is terrific, its second less so. And the sequence that's only a whisker away from being one of the most thrilling in cinema history, namely the climbing of the Burj Khalifa, is severely marred by being drowned in Michael Giacchino's blaringly boring score, which attempts to dictate a sense of edge-of-seat terror that the audience is feeling anyway and would be feeling far more strongly if the action were unfolding without any musical accompaniment whatsoever. It's one of the most redundant and annoying uses of music that I've ever encountered - this part of the film absolutely cries out for absolute silence (well, silence apart from sound effects of Cruise climbing, of course). It's not just that Giacchino's score is hackneyed and dull - the mere presence of music takes the edge off what is otherwise a fiendishly gripping piece of filmmaking.

Needless to say, the story is McGuffinish and garbled, but it's McGuffinish and garbled almost to the point that M:I-2 seems cleverly plotted by comparison. What's more, the writers appear to have forgotten to write a villain. On the plus side, though, the Cruiser is good (he isn't phoning it in the way he did in his last appearance as the Huntmeister), and he's ably supported by Pegg and Renner.

There's a Bourne-ish flavour to the cinematography (without the shakeycam, thankfully - funnily enough, cinematographer Robert Elswit is also the DP on the upcoming THE BOURNE LEGACY), the production design and the action, providing a pleasing contrast to the Moore-ish/Brosnan-esque OTTishness of the "plot". For the most part, GHOST PROTOCOL plays like a combination of THE BOURNE SUPREMACY and DIE ANOTHER DAY, which sounds like a highly inappropriate and lumpy mixture, but Bird does generally succeed in capturing and blending the best elements of both. GHOST PROTOCOL doesn't really have anything new to offer, but in general it does what it says on the tin with charm and flair. It's great fun in places and at the end of the day impossible to dislike.


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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:08 am

Rave reviews from Roger Ebert:

http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20111214/REVIEWS/111219995

And Leonard Maltin:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/leonardmaltin/mission-impossible-ghost-protocolmovie-review
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:29 am

It's probably rubbish, then.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:51 am

Does that mean that the only films that are good are those that are disliked by Ebert and Maltin?
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:23 am

No, they're just usually very, very wrong.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:25 am

I recommend everyone see it. I'm sure Babs and Craig already lapped it up to see where the competition is...

It's projected to do around $175m in the USA and $575m worldwide...those are Bond-wannabe numbers....
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 1:57 pm

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No, they're just usually very, very wrong.

Yeah, well, your guru Armond White also gives GHOST PROTOCOL a rave review:

http://cityarts.info/2011/12/21/the-incredible-tom/
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:32 pm

MI4 set a great standard for Bond23 to live up to. Brilliant actionscenes and a more than halfdecent story with enough personal drama thrown in for good measure.

A very enjoable actioner of the likes one fairly seldom gets to enjoy in cinema. Lets hope we'll get a MI5 in the next two years.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:23 am

saint mark wrote:
MI4 set a great standard for Bond23 to live up to. Brilliant actionscenes and a more than halfdecent story with enough personal drama thrown in for good measure.

Well, I don't agree that the story of GHOST PROTOCOL is "more than halfdecent", but otherwise, yeah, I'll be very pleased if SKYFALL manages to match M:I-4 in terms of thrilling action scenes (a very tall order), directorial stylishness and entertainment value. As for personal drama, I suspect that SKYFALL will go overboard on that particular element (as ever with modern Bond films).

saint mark wrote:
A very enjoable actioner of the likes one fairly seldom gets to enjoy in cinema.

Yep. It isn't a one-note, soulless, soul-destroying affair like so many big-budget popcorn actioners that seem to exist purely as loud, numbing demolition derbies (e.g. THE A-TEAM). There's true craftsmanship to GHOST PROTOCOL, coupled with a refreshing lightness of touch. It's a film with genuine charm and wit.

saint mark wrote:
Lets hope we'll get a MI5 in the next two years.

I don't follow box office performance too closely, but I understand that GHOST PROTOCOL is doing significantly better than M:I-3, so I presume that M:I-5 is highly likely to happen. I hope we haven't seen the last of Ethan Hunt.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:28 pm

Me neither...Bond needs competition or complacency sets in.

Wonder who Tommy will hand his role over to since he's looming near his 50s too....but doesn't look his age at all.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:46 pm

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he's looming near his 50s too....but doesn't look his age at all.
That's because he's a Level 6 Laser-Lotus.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 1:26 pm

The thetans are strong with this one.
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 9:04 pm

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:
Me neither...Bond needs competition or complacency sets in.

Wonder who Tommy will hand his role over to since he's looming near his 50s too....but doesn't look his age at all.

Wasn't it already established that the focus would shift to Renner after this movie? He'll be the leading man of both the Bourne reboot and the MI series...
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PostSubject: Re: Mission Impossible - Ghost Protocol ::: December 16, 2011   Thu Dec 29, 2011 10:01 pm

I think that was misdirection by the studios. Cruise and Pegg have both expressed interest in another film.
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