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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Sat Oct 13, 2012 10:57 am

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My own DIE HARD sequel idea would be a bit like Ridley Scott's BLACK RAIN - or, even better, Sydney Pollack's THE YAKUZA (one of my favourite films).
I like it, but there are a few little things that I would change. I think you've made McClane a little too cynical; I, for one, think he's at his best when he's being sarcastic, though the cynicism is there.

In what way(s) have I made McClane a little too cynical?
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Sat Oct 13, 2012 11:32 am

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DIE HARDON.

How about ANGELS HARD AS THEY DIE ?

There actually was a ANGELS HARD AS THEY COME biker flick. Would love to have seen a snapshot of somebody doubletaking at the marquee.


DIE HARD DAY'S NIGHT sounds like Truffaut filming a McClane movie.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Fri Oct 26, 2012 12:36 pm

A new trailer plus a teaser poster:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59291

I'm in a minority, I know, but I find the poster amusing, and I like this trailer. Yep, we're a long, long way from Nakatomi Plaza, but once you get past that sad fact A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD does look like good, goofy fun. If DIE HARD was the FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE of the franchise, A GOOD DAY looks to be its MOONRAKER.... but MOONRAKER, for all its silliness (indeed, perhaps because of its silliness) does have its enjoyable moments.

I'm just trying to look on the bright side here. Trust me, no one here is a more devoted fan of John McTiernan's original than I am, but I guess all we can do is take A GOOD DAY on its own merits. And like I say, it does look fun (maybe).

Man, is Willis looking old, though.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:02 pm

Loomis wrote:
A new trailer plus a teaser poster:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59291
The shot at 1:13 looks familiar.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:39 am

Loomis wrote:
A new trailer plus a teaser poster:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59291

I'm in a minority, I know, but I find the poster amusing, and I like this trailer. Yep, we're a long, long way from Nakatomi Plaza, but once you get past that sad fact A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD does look like good, goofy fun.
It does. I'll see it. If I can get through LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, then I can definitely make it through this.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:21 am

I am looking forward to Willis' McCLane back into action.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:14 am

I'll wait for word of mouth.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:46 am

Harmsway wrote:
Loomis wrote:
A new trailer plus a teaser poster:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/59291

I'm in a minority, I know, but I find the poster amusing, and I like this trailer. Yep, we're a long, long way from Nakatomi Plaza, but once you get past that sad fact A GOOD DAY TO DIE HARD does look like good, goofy fun.
It does. I'll see it. If I can get through LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, then I can definitely make it through this.

I'm not particularly fond of LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, but I wonder whether the worst film of the series is actually DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE. Despite many good elements and McTiernan in the director's chair, it's one of those films that somehow manages to seem much less than the sum of its parts. There's a fundamental sluggishness to it - for some reason, it's never really involving (and the ending is a real damp squib compared to the unused ending that they could have gone with but didn't).

I'm not really getting a LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD-ish vibe from the trailers for A GOOD DAY. The vibe I'm getting is the first DIE HARD meeting THE EXPENDABLES 2.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:10 am

It looks as if they've learned nothing whatsoever from what made the last two Die Hard films so inferior to the first two. I'll probably wait for the DVD.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:39 am

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I'm not particularly fond of LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, but I wonder whether the worst film of the series is actually DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE.
DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE is quite weak, but it does at least seem as though someone put effort into it, which isn't the case with LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD, which runs on autopilot from start to finish.

Loomis wrote:
I'm not really getting a LIVE FREE OR DIE HARD-ish vibe from the trailers for A GOOD DAY. The vibe I'm getting is the first DIE HARD meeting THE EXPENDABLES 2.
Seems about right.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:57 am

I find DIE HARD 2 (or anything Renny Harlin.makes for that matter) to be interminably worse than DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:13 pm

They should set it in a prison. McTeirnan could direct.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:25 pm

Well, it would be appropriate enough, because everybody involved in making the last few Die Hards deserve to be in prison for what they've done to that series.

That trailer is laughable, predictably trying to trade on sounds and imagery associated with the only good Die Hard film, as if any of that greatness will have anything to do with their latest generic Bruce Willis action flick. Die Hard stopped being Die Hard the moment Bruce Willis got into the car with Samuel L. Jackson in the third film. They're now just rubbish "McClane and annoying kid-friendly sidekick" movies, getting more stupid, outlandish and OTT with each instalment. Such a shame, because the first film was great, the second was okay and at least the third film still had Michael Kamen and proper swearing. And, if they want to find silly ways to create original titles with the words Die Hard in the title, then Even A Diehard Fan Shouldn't Watch This sh**e Anymore would have been the appropriate one to go with.


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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:19 pm

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I find DIE HARD 2 (or anything Renny Harlin.makes for that matter) to be interminably worse than DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE.
DIE HARD 2 is my favorite of the DIE HARD sequels.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 2:33 pm

It's the only sequel I've seen.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 3:07 pm

Harmsway wrote:
Largo's Shark wrote:
I find DIE HARD 2 (or anything Renny Harlin.makes for that matter) to be interminably worse than DIE HARD WITH A VENGEANCE.
DIE HARD 2 is my favorite of the DIE HARD sequels.

By an absolute country mile IMO. John McClane's best friends were always claustrophobia and staying in one environment for two hours, with Michael Kamen, a tangible sense of season and 18-rated action close bystanders. The first two films have identities. The others are just all over the shop. If you take the name John McClane out of Die Hard 4, you're left more with Hostage 2 than a Die Hard instalment.



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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 7:56 pm

I never really cared that the films strayed away from the formula of the first two where it's McClane in just one setting. Everyone calls that the "Die Hard on a [insert location]" formula, I think it was fine that WITH A VENGEANCE got away from that set up and did its own thing.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:27 pm

Perhaps the thing that might save AGDTDH is that it is the first DIE HARD film with an original story - every other film has been adapted from a novel, an existing screenplay (VENGEANCE was originally intended to be a LETHAL WEAPON sequel) or, in the case of LFODH, a newspaper feature article.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 9:56 pm

The second one was just a poor rehash of the first.

The third was indeed a Lethal Weapon clone.

The fourth was actually better than I had feared, up until the quite ludicrous final twenty minutes.

This looks rather dire based on the trailer. Is the world really waiting for a 57-year old John McClane?
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:25 pm

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Is the world really waiting for a 57-year old John McClane?

Not much to be done about that. I miss the 24-year-old Oppers, she was a kitten.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:26 pm

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Salomé wrote:
Is the world really waiting for a 57-year old John McClane?

Not much to be done about that. I miss the 24-year-old Oppers, she was a kitten.

You probably miss her more than I do. ;)
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Tue Oct 30, 2012 3:01 am

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Is the world really waiting for a 57-year old John McClane?

Not much to be done about that. I miss the 24-year-old Oppers, she was a kitten.

You probably miss her more than I do. ;)


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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Fri Nov 09, 2012 2:24 am

Here's one for the DIE HARD diehards, a new interview with Hart Bochner, whose Ellis is one of the most memorable supporting characters ever to almost steal the show in an action movie:

http://www.denofgeek.com/movies/23335/hart-bochner-interview-ellis-in-die-hard-directing-and-more

(Mention is made of a 25th anniversary DIE HARD DVD.)
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Fri Jan 04, 2013 8:58 am

http://latino-review.com/2013/01/03/a-good-day-die-hard-full-length-trailer-here/

New full-length trailer is up. Looks good. I think it looks more promising than Die Hard 4.0. However, I do not like the last scene in this trailer, where John and Jack are clearly up against a green screen helicopter. Too many f/x these days being done with CGI instead of old-world, in-camera stunt work.

The chemistry looks strong between Bruce Willis and Jai Courtney, and it LOOKS like Courtney is being set up to take over the Die Hard series. Based upon the trailer, it just might work. He certainly looks like a worthy successor to Willis.
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PostSubject: Re: The Die Hard Series   Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:55 am

1. Is it going to be rated R?

2. The new trailer looks even better than the previous trailers.

It brings back the old Die Hard feeling of WTF Am I Doing Here sense of Deja Vu.

3. I rather see Lucy in a Die Hard movie with her as the only McClane in the movie.
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