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A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate
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You Asked For It
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Mondays Are Hell
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Too Hot To Handle
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Nude Girl of Nightmare Key
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Motel Nymph
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The Fabulous Pay-Off
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No Tears For Hong Kong
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The World Is Not Enough
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A Better Way To Die
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Hell is Here
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PostSubject: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Sep 05, 2011 1:02 pm

Bond books you have read may have never been the same had they popped up under their working titles. The list is extensive, but doesn't cover everything. If anyone has any further information please feel free to add it to the list:!

Ian Fleming`s Novels

Casino Royale - (original US title was "You Asked For It", appeared in this form from Popular Library); Ian Fleming would have been thrilled with the ancient description for the nine of hearts playing card that brings Bond trouble--"A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate"

Live And Let Die - "The Undertaker`s Wind"

Moonraker - "The Infernal Machine" was Fleming`s favorite choice, followed by "Wide of the Mark" or "The Inhuman Element"; "Bond & The Moonraker", "The Moonraker Sense", "The Moonraker Plan" were three of the publisher's choices; after which Fleming crossed those out and stlyishly wrote over them in bright pink pencil "Moonraker"; other ideas included "The Moonraker", "The Moonraker Plot", "The Moonraker Secret", "Mondays Are Hell", "Hell Is Here", "Too Hot To Handle" (original US title, appeared in this form from Perma Books)

Diamonds Are Forever - They liked it!

From Russia With Love - It doesn`t get much better than that! Ever search under this name on the web?

Doctor No - serialized in the US as "Nude Girl Of Nightmare Key") [!]

Goldfinger - "The Richest Man In The World"

For Your Eyes Only - "Man`s Work", "Death Leaves An Echo", "The Rough With The Smooth", which may be Mr. Fleming`s reference to a line in the opening chapter, eventually deleted (For Your Eyes Only is subtitled "Five Secret Occasions in the Life of James Bond" in the UK and "Five Secret Exploits of James Bond" in the US. The short story inside, "Risico" was alternately spelled Risiko)

The Spy Who Loved Me - serialized in the US as "Motel Nymph"!]

Thunderball - A keeper! What a classic!

On Her Majesty`s Secret Service - "The Belles Of Hell"

You Only Live Twice - Done!

The Man With The Golden Gun - "The Golden Gun"

Octopussy - "Octopussy and The Living Daylights" (or alternately "Octopussy AND The Living Daylights", "Octopussy & The Living Daylights") The short story inside, "The Living Daylights" has also been published as "Trigger Finger" and "Berlin Escape" ("Berlin" was published in hardcover form during the 80`s in the US!)

The short story, "The Property Of A Lady," was originally entitled "The Diamond Egg" and was later called "The Fabulous Pay-Off"

Other Authors` Bond Novels:

Colonel Sun - author Kingsley Amis` pseudonym, "Robert Markham" was originally "George Glidrose", an idea of Peter Fleming`s (Ian`s brother). Publisher Jonathan Cape said "G.G.`s" name had no selling power.

James Bond, They Spy Who Loved Me - Christopher Wood`s film novelization had a US edition and a front page of the British hardcover reading simply "The Spy Who Loved Me". The header in the British hardcover more properly reads, "James Bond: The Spy Who Loved Me"

License Renewed - Meltdown

Nobody Lives Forever - "You Only Die Once" or "You Only Live Once" (in Great Britain the title is the slightly different "Nobody Lives For Ever")

No Deals, Mr. Bond - "Tomorrow Always Comes," "Oh No, Mr. Bond!"
"Bond Fights Back." Also, several of Mr. Gardner`s subsequent Bond novels, in their list of authors' books, erroneously list this one as "No Deals For Mr. Bond"

Mr. Gardner explains that he can "...Recall such wonders as Oh No, Mr. Bond! and Bond Fights Back. Those two finally became, after many protests on my part, the dreadful No Deals, Mr. Bond while my original title for Icebreaker was instantly turned down only to be picked up again a month later after turkey after turkey had to be rejected. My former agent is convinced to this day that he was responsible for Death is Forever, which was actually taken from some dialogue in a Stephen King book. I tried to explain it to him but he still claimed that he was the one. I can't think why because it isn't a very sophisticated title. Peter Janson-Smith came up with two of the titles, though by now I've forgotten which, and somewhere I have the original lengthy list of quite abominable titles suggested by publishers."


Zero Minus Ten - "No Tears For Hong Kong" (Benson submitted this bit O`Fleming as the title but it was rejected. Another interesting thought was "China Takeaway", a slang British expression for China food-to-go.

The Facts of Death - "The World Is Not Enough"--Benson's choice.

High Time To Kill - "A Better Way To Die"--Benson's choice

Doubleshot - "Doppelganger"--Benson's choice and then "Reflections In A Broken Glass"

Never Dream of Dying - This is Mr. Benson's original choice!

The Man with the Red Tattoo - "Red Widow Dawn" Benson's choice.

Carte Blanche - Project X


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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Sep 05, 2011 1:41 pm

Motel Nymph.

I think our paths have crossed.
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Sep 05, 2011 1:45 pm

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Motel Nymph.

I think our paths have crossed.

I put that one and Nude Girl of Nightmare Key in there just for you.
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Sep 05, 2011 1:46 pm

It was 50/50 which I would go with.

BTW, Hell is Here would have been a good title. (Moonraker.)
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Sep 05, 2011 1:52 pm

Avarice wrote:
It was 50/50 which I would go with.

BTW, Hell is Here would have been a good title. (Moonraker.)

Is there a way for me to add it to the poll?
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 1:21 am

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Moonraker - "The Infernal Machine"

Yikes. That would've been terrible. It sounds like the title of a B-grade sci-fi movie.

"A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate" and "The Undertaker's Wind" are my picks.
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 7:59 am

CJB wrote:
"A Whisper of Love, A Whisper of Hate" and "The Undertaker's Wind" are my picks.

First one sounds like an MCR album, and the later''s a prime target for fart jokes.

I've added Hell is Here.
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyTue Sep 06, 2011 10:58 am

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and the later''s a prime target for fart jokes.

I gas that's true.
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Mar 12, 2012 7:10 am

Nude Girl From Nightmare Key was my favourite. I also liked 'The Inhuman Element' for Moonraker.

Though a lot of these feel more like short story titles than novel titles.

High Time To Kill is a thousand times better than 'A Better Way to Die'. Don't get me started on 'Reflections in a Broken Glass'
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PostSubject: Re: What was the original title?   What was the original title? EmptyMon Mar 12, 2012 5:23 pm

Re: The Undertaker's Wind

CJB wrote:
Sharky wrote:
and the latter''s a prime target for fart jokes.

I gas that's true.

"Mister, the undertaker's right here. You care to feel his wind?"
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Loved;
"Hell Is Here", - A brilliant line in the MR novel
"Nude Girl Of Nightmare Key") - Let's just say, that grabs me! It's evocative! tongue
"Death Leaves An Echo" - Very Bondian.

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Welcome aboard, Acupofbeans.

I also enjoy "Nude Girl of Nightmare Key". Here are a handful of stills from an illustrated version that appeared in Stag Magazine, back in '62: http://illustrated007.blogspot.com/2008/10/doctor-no-in-stag-magazine.html

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It would have been fun to see it marketed as a pulp paperback with that title.
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