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PostSubject: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jun 04, 2012 3:59 pm

It has been long discussed if No Good about Goodbye was or wasn't a rejected theme for Quantum of Solace.
The song involves David Arnold, James Bond composer (who returned for Quantum of Solace), Don Black, James Bond lyricist, and Shirley Bassey, known to have performed four 007 theme songs (including Living Tree for
Casino Royale, which didn't make it).
No Good about Goodbye is basically Bond's point of view, whose heart is broken because of Vesper's death in previous mission Casino Royale, and the song itself features the word Solace, which is part of movie's title.


Shirley Bassey's song

But the most interesting proof is this: if you listen closely to the first track of Quantum of Solace soundtrack, you'll hear No Good about Goodbye's main notes at 2:57 (I don't know if it appears in other tracks, I have to check).


Quantum of Solace OST: Time to get out

This means, despite being denied in the past, No Good about Goodbye is really a reject Bond theme.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jun 04, 2012 5:13 pm

You can also hear it in this cue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4j3JYznRBI&t=5m11s

It certainly would have worked better than "Another Way to Die".
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jun 04, 2012 5:22 pm

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You can also hear it in this cue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4j3JYznRBI&t=5m11s

It certainly would have worked better than "Another Way to Die".

Awesome, thanks. :)
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jun 04, 2012 8:04 pm

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You can also hear it in this cue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4j3JYznRBI&t=5m11s

It certainly would have worked better than "Another Way to Die".

Yeah, it ain't not as great as the previous Bassey songs but it easily beats a majority of the last couple of songs.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jun 04, 2012 11:42 pm

It was written after the film, so it's NOT a Bond theme. Arnold just took a motif he used throughout QUANTUM OF SOLACE and developed it into a song for Shirley Bassey. I like it as a motif in the context of the score, but as a song it's a dated, tedious dirge with predictable harmonies.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 12:34 am

Actually he was working on it for QOS, but when Sony decided to go with White and Keys then he scrapped it. When he started working with Bassey for her album he decided to finish work on the song. So yeah, it wasn't finished until the film was already out, but it was in development before Sony wanted to pimp their own brand.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 2:54 am

FWIW, I really like this song.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 3:13 am

This was my favorite track from the album:
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 3:16 am

The Manics would write a great Bond theme.

Edit: just noticed at 2:48 onwards they ripped (or "homaged") the CMaj7 to BbMaj7 chord motif from Barry's "Who Will Buy My Yesterdays" from OHMSS.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwmYZDXrdj0#t=0m16s
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 4:40 am

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Shirley Bassey, known to have performed four 007 theme songs (including Living Tree for Casino Royale, which didn't make it).
That song wasn't written or recorded for any Bond film.

I don't care for "No Good About Goodbye." It's cut from the same cloth as all that retro Mark Ronson pastiche that's popular right now.

Not that the John Barry/Don Black song on the album is up to much, either.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 4:49 am

A pretty dull album, for the most part. But I enjoyed some of it.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 12:37 pm

No good about goodbye is good song but mabey not the song for QOS.

I wil not disagree the song can have been amazing to have seen under QOS, but i have the feeling the song mabey better match for Bond 24 then for QOS. Realy whant this good song be at under a not yet finished story. There be some lyrics it it who made QOS more dificult then some people already think it be, because those work better for a movie who look/get back to QOS and contune. Mabey you should ask your self or whant hear ''No comfort in the sigh'' in QOS and predict the future (like Another Way To Die & You Know My Name doing too) or in Bond 24 as happening in the movie it self. ''No comfort in the sigh'' is what CR did with ''Arm yourself because no-one else here will save you'' but both mean kind of the same thing linked to Bond. Lyrics of both CR and QOS mean more then only 1 thing and that also count for No Good about Goodby.

No good about goodbye wil perfect match for movie with ''Risico'' as title.

Lyrics:
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"No Good About Goodbye lyrics

Where is the solace that I crave?
Will it still haunt me to my grave?
Too broken to forgive, too painful to relive now
There may be other arms to hold
They'll only keep me from the cold
There always be a space, a fact I have to face now

How long does a heart stay broken?
How long if the pain’s unspoken?
No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye
My heart is no good at pretending
It knows that the hurts never ending
No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye

There’s only so much you can give
Only through forgets to live
And easy thing to say
The pass will go away now

How long does a heart stay broken?
How long if the pain’s unspoken?

No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye
My heart is no good at pretending
It knows that the hurts never ending
No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye

I'll never be yours so come to your senses
Before you make your move think of the consequences

How long does a heart stay broken?
How long if the pain’s unspoken?
No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye
My heart is no good at pretending
It knows that the hurts never ending
No solace in a kiss
No comfort in the sigh
No good about goodbye

No good about goodbye
No good about goodbye.

Whyle The Girl from Tiger Bay isn't written for a Bond movie, song is more yusefull information to hear about possible Bond his future.
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No good about goodbye wil perfect match for movie with ''Risico'' as title.

I swear on James Page's life that an already recorded song will never be used for a future Bond theme. It's never happened, would run counter to the spirit of capturing the zestiest of the time and selling a load of bob.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 1:30 pm

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Walecs wrote:
Shirley Bassey, known to have performed four 007 theme songs (including Living Tree for Casino Royale, which didn't make it).
That song wasn't written or recorded for any Bond film.

I don't care for "No Good About Goodbye." It's cut from the same cloth as all that retro Mark Ronson pastiche that's popular right now.

Not that the John Barry/Don Black song on the album is up to much, either.

Oh, thanks for the info. The song includes Bond theme, and I read (fake) rumors, so I thought it was written for Bond.
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PostSubject: s   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyTue Jun 05, 2012 2:06 pm

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No good about goodbye wil perfect match for movie with ''Risico'' as title.

I swear on James Page's life that an already recorded song will never be used for a future Bond theme. It's never happened, would run counter to the spirit of capturing the zestiest of the time and selling a load of bob.

Unfortunately, our times are not very zesty.
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Walecs wrote:
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Walecs wrote:
Shirley Bassey, known to have performed four 007 theme songs (including Living Tree for Casino Royale, which didn't make it).
That song wasn't written or recorded for any Bond film.

Oh, thanks for the info. The song includes Bond theme, and I read (fake) rumors, so I thought it was written for Bond.
I just pulled this from Wikipedia:

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"The Living Tree" was written by Catherine Feeney and Nikki Lamborn from Never the Bride, who recorded the song for their 2002 album Surprise. It was a Top 40 hit for Shirley Bassey in 2007. Nikki Lamborn and Catherine Feeney personally requested Bassey to record the song; they had left a copy of their recording at her gym in Monaco with a note saying they knew it was a song for her.
I noticed the song uses a portion of the Bond theme, too. Perhaps Feeney and Lamborn wrote the song and afterwards noticed that it quoted the Bond theme, and then thought of giving it to Bassey. Just speculation, but stranger things have happened.
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptyMon Jan 06, 2014 7:11 pm

At the 2013 Other Voices festival, David Arnold performed No Good About Goodbye, reharmonised with different chords.

http://www.theguardian.com/music/video/2013/dec/20/david-arnold-no-good-about-goodbye-other-voices-video
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PostSubject: Re: No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme   No good about goodbye: Proof it IS a Bond theme EmptySun Mar 01, 2015 3:55 am

For some reason this song has recently grown on me. I think the first time I heard it it was a sped-up version and it didn't work for me. But the slower version seems to hit the right notes.




As a staunch defender of Jack White and Alicia Key's work, Another Way To Die ranks among my Top 5 Favorite Title/Theme Songs, but I not only would have been okay with this song, I would have been okay with Shirley Bassey singing it, even though I've been against bringing her back in the past. Not only do I like the song, I think it could have even been a commercial hit despite her age and the age of today's target demo.

It continues David Arnold's fascination with musical influences from the 60's, but when it works, it works, and I wouldn't have complained if this was used.
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