Last Bond Movie You Watched.

I think DC's Bond is multifaceted. Anger is certainly there sometimes, but it is also justified. There's some depression as well--see the scene in QoS with Mathis on the airplane. But there's also plenty of wry humor (Bond meets the new Q in SF), and youthful, almost flippant cockiness, particularly in CR. And I think he displays a touch of Seanery's bravado in SP.

All in all, I like DC's portrayal just fine. But then, Lazenby is my favorite Bond, so there's that.

PS--If you want to understand Vesper better, read Fleming's Casino Royale. It is a masterpiece of the espionage genre.

I didn't realise Lazenby was your favourite, Khanners. I somehow was sure you had Dalton as your favourite. On the old place at any rate. Not complaining, just surprised.

That was quite a performance by Lazenby especially for a new comer in such a huge role he had a real natural charm and wit that was delightful  for me he really fit the role instantly, hit all the notes and I would have loved to see more.OHMSS is definitely in my top 3 if not my favorite Bond film

now I really want to give Spectre another shot

I don't think I would have that big of a problem with the issues I mentioned, it's the Brofeld thing that really get's me. It really made me throw a temper tantrum.
maybe I can pretend it doesn't happen or that Blofeld was just making that all up?

Hilly wrote:

I didn't realise Lazenby was your favourite, Khanners. I somehow was sure you had Dalton as your favourite. On the old place at any rate. Not complaining, just surprised.

Well, I rate LTK No. 3--behind OHMSS and SF--so I'm certainly no Dalton basher!

Sarai wrote:

That was quite a performance by Lazenby especially for a new comer in such a huge role he had a real natural charm and wit that was delightful  for me he really fit the role instantly, hit all the notes and I would have loved to see more.OHMSS is definitely in my top 3 if not my favorite Bond film

Good show...

Sarai wrote:

now I really want to give Spectre another shot

I don't think I would have that big of a problem with the issues I mentioned, it's the Brofeld thing that really get's me. It really made me throw a temper tantrum.
maybe I can pretend it doesn't happen or that Blofeld was just making that all up?

Threw a temper tantrum in the theater? That's adorable. Wish I had seen it.

haha  well, thank you
 It only happens two or three times a day and that could be why I don't see the anger in Craig Bond. He is just a mellow, laid back, easy going kind of person compared to me. But in all fairness he has never once been under the stress that I am at work. I work for family and they are total nit wits. lol

I finally got some kind of ranking going for the Bond girls but wasn't sure where to put it so mods can move if need be. I probably missed a bunch too and did skip some but rough draft.

1.Mary Goodnight
2.Honey Ryder
3.Domino Derval    
4.Xenia Onatopp
5.Dr.Christmas Jones
6.Strawberry Fields
7.Pussy Galore
8.Solitaire 
9.Jill Masterson
10.Andrea Anders
11.Teresa di Vicenzo
12.Stacey Sutton
13.May Day
14.Wai Lin
15.Lucia
16.Plenty O'Toole
17.Kissy
18.Aki
19.Camille
20.Jinx
21.Vesper Lynd
22.Holly Goodhead
23.Fiona Volpe
24.Paris Carver
25.Peaceful Fountains
26.Tiffany Case
27.Tatiana Romanova
28.Melina Haveloc
k29.Tilly Masterson
30.Kara

Octopussy
Eggcellent!  get it, cause like the Faberge Egg? I thought it was funny. But this one had grown on me more than a little too and has everything I want in a Bond film. I have heard other's say Khan is one of the best villains of the series, it's hard to argue that and I would put him near the top. It's just a really great fantasy adventure from beginning to end and never get's boring or let's up.
And again Maud Adams' adds so,so much to this one for me. She's stunningly beautiful...those eyes and just the whole IDEA of that island of her's and the women around her should really make her my favorite Bond girl. It's hard to think of anywhere I would rather be than that island with her as my boss. that's one thing I missed in the Craig films was having that many hot women everywhere and Octopussy has to be one the absolute best for that..it seems like they are in just about every other scene whether it's on the boat, around the pool, the circus, and the fighting of Khans goons at the end.  oh and Magda..lovely, just lovely so yeah, it looked fantastic

I would give it 8/10 all things considered but I am adding another point for the Tarzan yell just to be edgy and go against the grain 9/10

Perilagu Khan wrote:

You all make excellent points about why SP is the most traditional DC Bond film. But to me SP has a Kubrickian iciness that separates it from every other Bond film that has been made. To me SP just doesn't really look and feel traditional, although many of the tropes are definitely ripped from Bond films past.  

Never really felt it to be Kubrickian, though I could see that with the SPECTRE meeting. In fact, I believe the original plan was that all the member would be wearing masks, which sounded like Tom Cruise sneaking into that secret society/cult in EYES WIDE SHUT.

DIE ANOTHER DAY

At home, sick, so I thought I'd exacerbate my condition by watching DAD.

One word kept coming to mind as I was watching it: embarrassing.

The movie peaked for me with the opening few moments with the agents surfing towards the beach under the cover of darkness. That was cool. The rest of the PTS was a ham-fest. Everyone knew Colonel Spanky Ban-Ki's punching bag had a dude inside. Everyone knew Bond would say "saved by the bell." Moon and Zao's clean American accents were out of place in the DPRK and added to the somewhat Americanized feel of the whole film (not that American accents alone are what makes DAD feel like the most run-of-the-mill Hollywood action churner of the series). It goes without saying that I don't mean any ill will towards our friends on the other side of the Pacific, but Bond has always had a uniquely British feel to it (mixed in with exotic locales and characters) which made it stand out and stand the test of time. DAD felt like it was trying to compete with xXx in a way the 80's Bonds, for example, never aimed to compete with the concurrent works of Arnie and Stallone (and if you aren't going to ape those iconic action stars, why the hell would you ape some bald bloke who's named after a utility vehicle?)

Madonna's title track is horrific. Bond's torture is an interesting idea and certainly has grounding in the physical and mental trials and tribulations Fleming's Bond went through but, as we all know, in DAD it ultimately led nowhere. As soon as Bond loses the beard and gets his 90's businessman haircut back the whole thing may as well have never happened.

Bond is in Cuba. Driving around in the vintage car with the jaunty Caribbean track was a cool little moment. The thing is, the movie is so terrible that these little good moments stick out in a way they never do in strong Bond movies. I mean, pick out any Connery film and there's dozens of moments where Bond is a cool cat. They don't get attention because there's plenty to choose from, whereas the cupboard is pretty bare with DAD.

The Bond and Jinx meeting scene is terrible. I don't know how grown-up actors in a non-comedic film could seriously allow the writers and director to force  them to utter that crap. Teenagers at bars can come up with better pickup lines. Then there's the deep and gritty sex scene which was touted as the most "realistic" of the series thus far. OK, I gotta ask, does Brosnan have a fetish for being fed the half-digested contents of other people's mouths? First there was Elektra with the ice cube, now you've got a slice of fruit. So Bond tells this girl he's an ornithologist so she decides to feed him like a mother bird? Dr Freud would have a fucking field day!

And where the hell did she pull the knife and fruit out of exactly?

Madonna shows up and meets Bond. Together they exchange the umpteenth penis jokes of the film thus far. DAD has enough penis jokes to sustain an entire season of Two and a Half Men

The sword fight was probably the best action scene of the film. It was unique, in that I don't think you really have much swordplay in other Bond films, and it was well choreographed. The two blokes actually looked like they wanted to kill each other (though in the end Bond wisely decides against spilling Graves' intestines in front of the well-heeled country club crowd). Of course, they couldn't leave well enough alone, and had to have another sword fight at the end of the film, replete with Bond's eeekwoooll, Jinx, doing Matrix flips.

Now we're in Iceland. We're treated to plenty of slow-mo and fast-mo editing to make the film look "modern." I can tell you that it screamed "2002" in 2002 and you bet it screams "2002" in 2019.

The ice palace is a cool idea... no pun intended. Of course, our protagonist can't help but make his ice-related dad joke to the barman. In fact, that's really the problem with the writing in this film. It's either dad jokes, half a dozen variations of 'getting the point,' juvenile cock jokes, and vacuous sloganeering (looking at you, Gustav). No conversation is conducted in a normal, adult way.

Mr Kil is dumb. I mean, really, name to die for. What writer who gets paid to write would write that? Also "nah bru just use thu layza." How do you take a Kiwi seriously as a villain? You can't. Granted, the main villain of DAD, Lee Tamawhore, is a Kiwi.

The CGI surfing scene, as has been well canvassed, is perhaps the low point of the entire six decades of Bondom. A blue screen and video game cartoon modelling will never replace stunts done for real.

Zao, who is a piece of shit, boring character, sees a guy fall off his snow mobile. Rather than assuming the guy hit a rock or some other sort of protrusion and lost control, he somehow guesses that he bumped into an invisible fucking car. In any other context, seeing someone trip and believing they had just hit a magic invisible object would get you carted away to the nuthouse.

The car v car scene was OK but lacked oomph. I mean it was just a bunch of gadgetry cancelling each other out. On face value you'd think it could've been one of the niftiest action sequences of the series, what with the ice lake and all, but it just did't satisfy. Also, I may have missed it, but did Bond actually know Jinx was locked in his hotel room and about to drown? As in, did he have an actual reason for going back to the ice palace which was in the process of being Death Star'd?

Anyway, then you have the finale on the cartoon plane. You got Robocop suits and slow-mo patricide all in the one hit. I don't need to elaborate on how shit it was. "Time to face gravity," he said, doing a squinty Broz-face. For some reason, Frost is walking around in a sports bra. Then Jinx makes her read some Sun Tzu like the biatch she is. Then you get the helicopter escape which somehow lacks the tension and excitement of the TLD cargo plane stunt they were referencing. Dunno why. Must be something to do with the fact it looked like a cutscene from a Playsation 1 game.

The virtual reality game thingo. Less said the better. Speaking of Q's lab, I'm surprised I've never previously picked up on the "flesh wound" reference with John Cleese. That's one homage I liked, though it may be from another series altogether. I'll say John Cleese was as worthy a successor as the incomparable Desmond could have.

Then you get one final, embarrassing scene. The scene which marked the end of Brosnan's tenure. You get some cock and penetration gags. You get Broz doing a weird face and one final, badly written and delivered line: "Especially when you're sooo bad." And thus ends the age of Brosnan. A 50 year old making dick jokes and creepo squinty expressions for 2 hours... that's how I characterise his final outing as Bond.

Anyway, this film was a terrible, badly written mess. It may have made a tonne of money, but it certainly came close to killing the series creatively. I mean, they couldn't seriously consider bringing back an ageing Brosnan to spout more Charlie Sheen-isms, have as many explosions as a dumb Hollywood shoot em up, outdo the last film with the use of CGI and totally wiiikkkiiiiid editing tricks. The best fan service for the 40th anniversary would've been a damned good movie, rather than a shyte pile of shyte that somehow managed to be laced with homages to other Bond films from start to finish and yet lacked the Bond magic itself.

I'll say this for DAD ... it taught them what NOT to do when the 50th anniversary rolled around.

lol can't stop laughing...that was awesome

"At home, sick, so I thought I'd exacerbate my condition by watching DAD.'


LOL

Well, CJB, perhaps I've read a better review of a Bond film--although I don't recall when--but I've not read one that's more entertaining. You should contract pertussis more regularly and make a career out of this stuff! But seriously, when it comes to profoundly dreadful cinema, DAD is the gift that keeps on taking. You mentioned a dozen or so jaw-droppingly bad moments; I could watch DAD and come up with a dozen more. It's the Plan 9 from Outer Space of Bond films. Whatever the second worst Bond film is--OP? AVTAK?--it's Don't Look Now compared to DAD.

"Well, CJB, perhaps I've read a better review of a Bond film--although I don't recall when--but I've not read one that's more entertaining."

I agree. I read that when I first got up this morning and was in tears. Just had to check back in and see if it was still that funny and yes, yes it is...
what makes it even better is that for us fans of the film, man he must think we are total morons lol

That's praise for Craig and Brosnan's last Bond utterly destroyed in this thread in the last couple of days ... Fields is gonna be MAD when he next looks in here .

Blunt Instrument wrote:

That's praise for Craig and Brosnan's last Bond utterly destroyed in this thread in the last couple of days ... Fields is gonna be MAD when he next looks in here .

He's not the only one who'll be spitting buckshot, I suspect...

I thought I would be safe as I like both of them but I guess that's not how it works around here? lol

Reading CJB's takedown of DAD reminded me of the Olde KTBEU in the mid-2000s when that film was still fresh in our minds, like a delirious dream we just woke up from and still recovering from.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Blunt Instrument wrote:

That's praise for Craig and Brosnan's last Bond utterly destroyed in this thread in the last couple of days ... Fields is gonna be MAD when he next looks in here .

He's not the only one who'll be spitting buckshot, I suspect...

another fine mess you have gotten us into Mr. Khan!

Makeshift Python wrote:

Reading CJB's takedown of DAD reminded me of the Olde KTBEU in the mid-2000s when that film was still fresh in our minds, like a delirious dream we just woke up from and still recovering from.

We forget the old ways at our peril, don't you think?

Sarai wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

Blunt Instrument wrote:

That's praise for Craig and Brosnan's last Bond utterly destroyed in this thread in the last couple of days ... Fields is gonna be MAD when he next looks in here .

He's not the only one who'll be spitting buckshot, I suspect...

another fine mess you have gotten us into Mr. Khan!  

My dear, you haven't seen the half of it. Yet...

are we talking about Kiss, Kiss, Bang, Bang? because reading the board I see the guy is an Aussie and Aussies never get in bad moods or angry....never happens