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PostSubject: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyTue Feb 25, 2020 8:32 pm

Thought it would be interesting to share here, for those curious. Here's all the Bond films adjusted for 2019 box office.

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  1. SKYFALL - $1.24b
  2. THUNDERBALL - $1.15b
  3. GOLDFINGER - $1.03b
  4. SPECTRE - $948m
  5. LIVE AND LET DIE - $931m
  6. YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE - $854m
  7. THE SPY WHO LOVED ME - $782m
  8. CASINO ROYALE - $753m
  9. MOONRAKER - $740m
  10. DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER - $732m
  11. QUANTUM OF SOLACE - $702m
  12. FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - $659m
  13. DIE ANOTHER DAY - $613m
  14. GOLDENEYE - $597m
  15. ON HER MAJESTY'S SECRET SERVICE -$571m
  16. THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH - $555m
  17. FOR YOUR EYES ONLY - $549m
  18. TOMORROW NEVER DIES - $540m
  19. THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN - $506m
  20. DR. NO - $504m
  21. OCTOPUSSY - $481m
  22. THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS - $430m
  23. A VIEW TO A KILL - $362m
  24. LICENCE TO KILL - $321m


Most surprising is DAF cracking the top 10. Despite its reputation, it really shows how much Connery was king.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyTue Feb 25, 2020 10:20 pm

The coronavirus might remain problematic and cause cinemas to be closed in certain countries.

The GBP also had a conversion rate of around US$1.60 back in 2012....today it's closer to $1.30, so if NTTD clocks 100 million quid, it's 30m less in BO power

NTTD will have a much tougher time getting to US$1b
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyTue Feb 25, 2020 10:24 pm

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The coronavirus might remain problematic and cause cinemas to be closed in certain countries.

The GBP also had a conversion rate of around US$1.60 back in 2012....today it's closer to $1.30, so if NTTD clocks 100 million quid, it's 30m less in BO power

NTTD will have a much tougher time getting to US$1b

Also, potentially word of mouth being 'this film sucks because who the fuck cares about Brofeld, Madeleine Goose and mopey Putin who'd rather commit suicide than play Bond again'.

Now they just have an excuse with coronavirus as to why it won't do as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyTue Feb 25, 2020 11:56 pm

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Also, potentially word of mouth being 'this film sucks because who the fuck cares about Brofeld, Madeleine Goose and mopey Putin who'd rather commit suicide than play Bond again'.

Potential? I think we've already found your opinion of the flick. wink tongue
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 2:35 am

Can't see how they can make a good film built on shaky foundations and with a lead I'd rather wasn't in it but I'm open to enjoying it as much as SF if it warrants it.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 2:51 am

You probably won't, but I don't blame you, given the opinions you've expressed over time. This is probably what fans felt after watching DIE ANOTHER DAY to eventually find out that JINX was on the horizon.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 4:11 am

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:

Also, potentially word of mouth being 'this film sucks because who the fuck cares about Brofeld, Madeleine Goose and mopey Putin who'd rather commit suicide than play Bond again'.

Now they just have an excuse with coronavirus as to why it won't do as well.

I don't think the BO results in Bond's 2 biggest markets will reflect that (USA and UK)...as long as cinemas remain open.

I'm thinking NTTD will do well ahead of SPECTRE in both these markets which will put it in the Top 2 unadjusted for inflation
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 11:15 am

If box office revenue equated to a good film, then Glengarry Glen Ross and Rabbit Hole would be terrible films.

I have no doubt NTTD will earn cash, but it won't be SF big, and that will be seen as a failure to a degree, especially considering both SP and NTTD had/have much higher budgets than SF.

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You probably won't, but I don't blame you, given the opinions you've expressed over time. This is probably what fans felt after watching DIE ANOTHER DAY to eventually find out that JINX was on the horizon.

I fail to see the parallels.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 12:20 pm

Basically that Bond fans hated DAD, so at the time the news of a Jinx film being the next project in line wasn’t quite enthusiastically expressed by fans. I figured you hearing Brofeld would be back must have rolled your eyes back a thousand times.

And nobody is making the case that making money means the film is of high quality, this is just a thread looking at the pure numbers, and it’s interesting to see what attracted people the most and least at the time they came out. I’m pretty sure even though SP ranks #4 not a lot of Bond fans would have it that high in their personal rankings. Also pretty sure GE would be actually be above the likes of DAF, DAD, QOS, etc.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 12:33 pm

As far as I know, at the time, DAD wasn't quite as poorly received as it is fashionable now, but regardless, I doubt a Jinx spinoff would have been in place of a Bond film. So even if fans weren't keen on a Jinx-centred movie, there would always be a Bond film to look forward to anyway.

And yes, bringing Brofeld back had my eyeballs doing revolutions in their sockets.

No, they aren't. The point I'm making is that for the likes of SP and QOS, mixed reviews and fan reaction for those sloppy film meant less box office takings than their predecessors, and so I'm predicting NTTD will suffer the same fate because word of mouth, even for big budgeted/highly marketed films, can be toxic.

But now they have the coronavirus as a scapegoat.

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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 3:57 pm

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
If box office revenue equated to a good film, then Glengarry Glen Ross and Rabbit Hole would be terrible films.

I have no doubt NTTD will earn cash, but it won't be SF big, and that will be seen as a failure to a degree

It will only be seen as a failure to a degree if it underperforms when compared to SPECTRE

Skyfall set a precedent that will be hard for any Bond film to beat, including the new guy who comes along for Bond 26
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 5:10 pm

Will getting bad word of mouth hurt it? Yes. Will good word of mouth help it? Yes. It’ll all depend on how the final product turns out. So far the buzz has shifted towards the positive after the initial bad press from early production. Reminds me of how CR got a lot of bad press but as the trailers and other promos came out the negativity significantly lessened and of course the movie coming out sealed the deal for it being one of the most highly regarded Bond films by fans, critics, and casual goers. Craig leaving on a perfectly good note would be icing on the cake.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyWed Feb 26, 2020 11:09 pm

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Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
If box office revenue equated to a good film, then Glengarry Glen Ross and Rabbit Hole would be terrible films.

I have no doubt NTTD will earn cash, but it won't be SF big, and that will be seen as a failure to a degree

It will only be seen as a failure to a degree if it underperforms when compared to SPECTRE

Skyfall set a precedent that will be hard for any Bond film to beat, including the new guy who comes along for Bond 26

Not these days. More films are cracking the $1b mark, and Bond should be leading the pack, especially with a growing population and pricier tickets. I can see NTTD maybe matching SP, but even that's an issue, considering it has a bigger budget which will mean lesser return on investment.

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Will getting bad word of mouth hurt it? Yes. Will good word of mouth help it? Yes. It’ll all depend on how the final product turns out. So far the buzz has shifted towards the positive after the initial bad press from early production. Reminds me of how CR got a lot of bad press but as the trailers and other promos came out the negativity significantly lessened and of course the movie coming out sealed the deal for it being one of the most highly regarded Bond films by fans, critics, and casual goers. Craig leaving on a perfectly good note would be icing on the cake.

The circumstances are a little different. Besides, people think they were seeing Fleming's Casino Royale behind a mask of faux-gritty stuntwork, parkour and Die Hard-esque action sequences... so they were blinded.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyThu Feb 27, 2020 4:28 am

Hmm I didn't know they had done updated listings. Interesting to see SF as topping TB and GF but it is much harder to accurately calculate vintage BO listings so I take it with a grain of salt. LALD and DAF don't surprise me as they were hugely popular with little genre competition and LALD only just beat DAF's take.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyThu Feb 27, 2020 5:54 pm

Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
Not these days. More films are cracking the $1b mark, and Bond should be leading the pack, especially with a growing population and pricier tickets. I can see NTTD maybe matching SP, but even that's an issue, considering it has a bigger budget which will mean lesser return on investment.

For what it's worth, this is at least tracking better so it should at least exceed SP's performance outside of China. How well that will be is determined by the quality of the film, word of mouth, and legs at the box office. As for leading the pack, yeah it should but Bond hasn't exactly done that since the 60s. There's always another franchise making twice as much. Star Wars, Harry Potter, Avengers, and there will be more down the road.

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The circumstances are a little different. Besides, people think they were seeing Fleming's Casino Royale behind a mask of faux-gritty stuntwork, parkour and Die Hard-esque action sequences... so they were blinded.

Or they just enjoy it because it's a good movie?
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyFri Feb 28, 2020 2:35 am

In Japan, all schools will be closed during March to combat coronavirus. Wouldn't be surprised if this extends to cinemas.

South Korea is also being hard hit.

Won't be surprised if there's a delay in releasing the film in Asian countries.
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PostSubject: Re: Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation   Bond Worldwide Box Office Adjusted for Inflation EmptyFri Feb 28, 2020 2:56 am

Surely pirated copies of the film would leak to Asian countries if there is a delay. But I suppose, if cinemas won't open it won't make much sense releasing the film there.

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M.KKBB wrote:

The circumstances are a little different. Besides, people think they were seeing Fleming's Casino Royale behind a mask of faux-gritty stuntwork, parkour and Die Hard-esque action sequences... so they were blinded.

Or they just enjoy it because it's a good movie?

Unfathomable. We're talking about CR06, MP.

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Bond films.... it's a lost art!

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