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Worth mentioning that Lewis Collins was in the running to play Bond in 1982, but apparently, Cubby Broccoli didn't like him.
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[flash(425,350)]Worth mentioning that Lewis Collins was in the running to play Bond in 1982, but apparently, Cubby Broccoli didn't like him.

Neither do I. Complete and utter t***.

Any reason behind that, Sharky?


I love The Professionals. My absolute favourite episode would be In The Public Interest - quite unlike any other.
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Complete and utter t***.

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PostSubject: Re: The Professionals (1977-81)   The Professionals (1977-81) EmptyWed Apr 20, 2011 12:34 pm

That was a very good episode indeed, focusing on police corruption and fascism. It addressed themes like homophobia and bigotry as well.

Here is a scene from it that isn't available on the DVDs. It was spotted on ITV4.



My favourite Pros episode is Mixed Doubles. Very intriguing premise with Bodie & Doyle squaring off with 2 assassins who actually have quite a lot in common with them.

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Clemens has been quite scathing in his remarks about the continuing non-UK broadcast of Klansman. Comments?
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Klansmen is a very good episode, daring to portray one of the series' lead protagonists (Bodie) as a racist. Very un-pc and very good. A shame it has never been broadcast in the UK.

In the 1980s we kids loved The Professionals and used to discuss every new episode on the schoolyard. We would have loved to see Bodie, er, Lewis Collins as Bond back then. And I definitely remember rumours that he was approaching the role.
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PostSubject: Re: The Professionals (1977-81)   The Professionals (1977-81) EmptyWed Apr 20, 2011 10:15 pm

Mixed Doubles is my favourite episode as well.

I suppose I should confess to owning an RS2000 (okay, it's a mark V but still) with a CI5 numberplate......
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I'm with ambler, the guy was a complete and utter taco.
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I know there was an unfortunate incident in 1981 where Lewis invited two charity workers to his place where a row broke out over missing money and in a fit of rage, he fired a shotgun. He went to court and paid a heavy fine, but apart from that, he's always struck me as a man who likes living life to the full. He did a lot of his own stunts on The Pros and never took himself seriously unlike Martin Shaw who blocked Pros repeats in the late '80s although he now appreciates the show a bit more.

Other classic episodes are Discovered In A Graveyard, Hunter/Hunted, Kickback, Close Quarters, Slush Fund and Involvement.
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Clemens has been quite scathing in his remarks about the continuing non-UK broadcast of Klansman. Comments?

Klansmen is a little clumsy, and probably best not shown to avoid the row that would obviously ensue. It doesn't show Bodie in a good light - and people like their heroes to be perfect, or very close. Not harbouring prejudices.

And the ending is tacky.

Private Madness, Public Danger always struck me as a good plot.
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[flash(425,350)]Worth mentioning that Lewis Collins was in the running to play Bond in 1982, but apparently, Cubby Broccoli didn't like him.

Neither do I. Complete and utter t***.

Any reason behind that, Sharky?

Common industry knowledge.
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PostSubject: Re: The Professionals (1977-81)   The Professionals (1977-81) EmptyFri Apr 22, 2011 3:13 am

From what I gather, Lewis Collins was a joy to work with on The Professionals. He had a nice rapport with Martin Shaw, despite some tension between them during the filming of series 1, and he enjoyed a practical joke or two. I have a very in-depth and entertaining book about The Pros by Bob Rocca, a highly devoted fan of the show, and it has lots of information about the stars and what they were like.

While Collins was fun to work with, Richard Bradford on the other hand was not when he did Man In A Suitcase. Even though he was a terrific actor, the crew didn't have a lot of nice things to say about him because of his supposedly egotistical ways and that is partly the reason why a second series wasn't commissioned by ITC.

Going back to Collins, he gave a convincingly tough and sensitive performance in the 1988 ITV adaptation of Jack The Ripper which starred Michael Caine. If any of you have not seen it, I strongly suggest you do. It really is stirring stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: The Professionals (1977-81)   The Professionals (1977-81) EmptyFri Apr 22, 2011 9:12 am

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people like their heroes to be perfect, or very close.
That's often said, but I disagree. I like believable characters, and that means warts and all.

Anyway, The Pros greatest moment was Mrs Connolly with a hand grenade in her bra.

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That's often said, but I disagree. I like believable characters, and that means warts and all.

I agree with you, but I don't think we're typical of the general public. I like anti-heroes. Give me a good Byronic hero and I'm happy as Larry. Shades of grey are far more interesting than boring black and white characters.

On the subject of Bob Rocca, John, did you know he owns the original Mk II RS2000 from the show? It's a work in progress, and there aren't any photos of it's current state.

With Collins and Shaw, while I'm certainly not in the brigade who thinks they're the best thing since Andrex and that everything they do is marvellous, I do wonder whether some of the adverse articles and gossip about them is justified. I mean - everyone is allowed an off day.

And have you heard there's a film in the offing this year?
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Ravenstone wrote:
people like their heroes to be perfect, or very close.
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I disagree.
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I agree with you.
Damn this woman, playing with my head. I can't take it anymore.
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Damn this woman, playing with my head. I can't take it anymore.

But you like it so much!

Okay - when I said 'people' in the first quote, I meant 'the general public'. Your average audience. Your typical Daily Fail/Grauniad reader. I didn't mean nutters like you and me. ;)
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ambler wrote:
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people like their heroes to be perfect, or very close.
That's often said, but I disagree. I like believable characters, and that means warts and all.

Anyway, The Pros greatest moment was Mrs Connolly with a hand grenade in her bra.


I think we've had too much of both the hero and the anti-hero...

I prefer complex shows filled with "good" characters that do bad things and "bad" characters that do good things.
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Anyway, The Pros greatest moment was Mrs Connolly with a hand grenade in her bra.

Mrs. Connolly was also 'drug addict who snogged Bodie' in Stakeout, and Barry Martin's squeeze in Rogue.

And, of course, Pierce Brosnan was 'man with headphones in buggyboo' in - eek - forgotten the episode now.....
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Ravenstone wrote:
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Damn this woman, playing with my head. I can't take it anymore.

But you like it so much!
I enjoy head :twisted: as much as the next guy, but A Woman's Prerogative wasn't what I had in mind.

Salomé wrote:
I prefer complex shows filled with "good" characters that do bad things and "bad" characters that do good things.
Deadwood was the show for that.

Back on topic, the best car in The Professionals was Morris Cowley. The best actress was Minnie Driver.



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ambler wrote:

Salomé wrote:
I prefer complex shows filled with "good" characters that do bad things and "bad" characters that do good things.
Deadwood was the show for that.

Deadwood was the show I had in mind when I made that comment. :)
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And have you heard there's a film in the offing this year?

Hmmm ... 70s-set piss-take, or brought up-to-date and taking it seriously? Or neither?
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Gossip is that it's brought up to date, serious story line.

Although Gerard Butler and Jason Statham have been mooted.

Still - it sounds interesting.
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Anyone remember the Nissan pisstake?



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Oh yes, I loved that advert.

And let us not forget The Bullshitters and Detectives on the Edge of a Nervous Breakdown. Or The Gourmet Detective.
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