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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:12 pm | |
| - dodgecunningham wrote:
- GE no longer plays as well, imo, as it did when it first hit the theaters. The whole tank in the square episode was a silly concession to previous form. And the deadly hands of Purvis and Wade is already, in parts, at its worst.
Purvis & Wade came involved with TWINE. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:28 pm | |
| Bruce Feirstein
Dunno if he came up with the tank chase, but I always thought he was one of the big problems going for the Brosnan era but most fans tend to not acknowledge him when discussing the films' problems. |
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dodgecunningham
Posts : 11 Member Since : 2011-09-07 Location : Charlotte, NC
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:13 pm | |
| - Sharky wrote:
- dodgecunningham wrote:
- GE no longer plays as well, imo, as it did when it first hit the theaters. The whole tank in the square episode was a silly concession to previous form. And the deadly hands of Purvis and Wade is already, in parts, at its worst.
Purvis & Wade came involved with TWINE. Thanks, Sharky, for the correction. |
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| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:36 pm | |
| Of course, Roger Moore laid into QoS before Campbell. It's interesting rereading this thread now that Craig has effectively disowned QoS with his 'We got away with it, but only just' comment.
Funny that QoS still has its supporters when even its principals are keen to distance themselves from it. |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3675 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 8:57 pm | |
| I have always supported QoS as my 23rd favourite Bond movie.I've watched it well over 10 times (very much appreciate Craig putting away the blue trunks, for one film at least) and still give it solid respect, as the 23rd best entry in a magnificent film series. I haven't tossed it, along with Mathis, into a Bolivian dumpester just yet. It still rates inclusion in my Bondathons (its mercifully short for a Bond film). Faint praise I know, but I'm trying. - Quote :
- Best Bond Film: The Helicopter Spies
Ambler, you like Solo and Kuryakin's efforts in the Helicopter Spies do you? Classic Uncle. Lola Albright sizzles!To all Bond/Uncle aficionados escapist spy-fi-action fans, the complete Uncle, 8 feature film set, was made available last year by Warner Bros.All 8 theatrical Uncle releases, including The Helicpoter Spies, are available at your local Amazon. Awesome!
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:00 pm | |
| Yeah, Tiff, The Helicopter Spies entertains, something EON has forgotten how to do. Plus, there was an Ian Fleming connection to UNCLE though it's rarely commented on these days. |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3675 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:20 pm | |
| - Erica Ambler wrote:
- Yeah, Tiff, The Helicopter Spies entertains, something EON has forgotten how to do. Plus, there was an Ian Fleming connection to UNCLE though it's rarely commented on these days.
I added an edit to my post above. While the Uncle complete TV series is kinda pricey, the 8 Uncle feature length films, which were released internationally in the 1960's, at the height of the Bond-fueled spy craze, as of last year, have all been packaged together, in one handy dvd collection. I think its a must buy for fans of the 60's Bonds. The Uncle films boast bigger budgets than the TV episodes did, and feature some star powered actors of the day. The Uncle films have more of an escapist suspense driven Bond vibe, as opposed to the spoofier, Flint and Helm films of the day. Bond and Uncle = escapist spy adventure = guns, girls and thrills. Here's the complete list of films: |
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| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 9:26 pm | |
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tiffanywint Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3675 Member Since : 2011-03-16 Location : making mudpies
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:33 pm | |
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Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 00 Agent
Posts : 8496 Member Since : 2010-05-12 Location : Strawberry Fields
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Mon Jan 30, 2012 11:54 pm | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- Bruce Feirstein
Dunno if he came up with the tank chase, but I always thought he was one of the big problems going for the Brosnan era but most fans tend to not acknowledge him when discussing the films' problems. Nope, it was Barbara who came up with that. Originally it was supposed to be a bike chase, but she wanted something more spectacular and we get a tank chase. It was probably Bruce who had the bike chase resurface in TND, and honestly, I think that's more spectacular. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:16 am | |
| I don't like either. Besides the handcuff gimmick, it's just another by the numbers sequence by Vic Armstrong. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:26 am | |
| The tank chase works because it ties into the whole 'tearing the icons' theme from the title sequence. The bike chase is just there. Pointless. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:40 am | |
| It's a good idea but Bond should have had obstacles to make it an effective sequence, for the most part he just plows right through with no trouble which makes his tie adjusting moment pointless because nothing challenged him. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
Posts : 10588 Member Since : 2011-03-14
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:57 am | |
| The whole point is that it's a release from the claustrophobic buildup in the archives. It's deliberately saddled between two suspense sequences, the second being with the Soviet Missile Train. |
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Louis Armstrong Q Branch
Posts : 853 Member Since : 2010-05-25
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:07 am | |
| Tank chase is too cute for my tastes. |
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| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:11 am | |
| - Louis Armstrong wrote:
- Tank chase is too cute for my tastes.
Bond should have detoured and taken in some starving Bolivian peasants. Thank God we're past entertainment. |
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CJB 00 Agent
Posts : 5511 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : 'Straya
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:24 am | |
| The tank chase is a good bit of fun in a film that feels a bit dour at times. I just wonder how Bond managed to roll that thing unimpeded all the way from St Pete's city centre to that deserted train depot.
No one had a bazooka handy? |
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Louis Armstrong Q Branch
Posts : 853 Member Since : 2010-05-25
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 5:58 am | |
| It feels like dead weight to me, a sidetrack that lacks danger. I feel the same about the LALD boat chase and the TLD ice chase (although the latter squeaks by on its exuberant music).
Oddly, I'd enjoy the GE tank chase if it was more OTT. I want the Bond theme to blare when the tank crashes through the wall, not for it to crawl along tediously. |
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lachesis Head of Station
Posts : 1588 Member Since : 2011-09-19 Location : Nottingahm, UK
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:08 pm | |
| - Louis Armstrong wrote:
- It feels like dead weight to me, a sidetrack that lacks danger. I feel the same about the LALD boat chase and the TLD ice chase (although the latter squeaks by on its exuberant music).
Oddly, I'd enjoy the GE tank chase if it was more OTT. I want the Bond theme to blare when the tank crashes through the wall, not for it to crawl along tediously. I think its the lack of restraint element again, these scenes are decent for a while but someone needed to call time a bit sooner or else do something to shift the gear. I do agree that TLD benefitted from one of Barry's greatest scores so that gets more than a pass from me, plus I could stare at that Aston all day....... |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5674 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: a Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:06 pm | |
| - Erica Ambler wrote:
- Of course, Roger Moore laid into QoS before Campbell. It's interesting rereading this thread now that Craig has effectively disowned QoS with his 'We got away with it, but only just' comment.
Funny that QoS still has its supporters when even its principals are keen to distance themselves from it. Since the opinions of the "principals" are almighty, I assume you'll embrace CR given DC and Micolli's appreciation for it. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5674 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: a Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:10 pm | |
| - Sharky wrote:
- The tank chase works because it ties into the whole 'tearing the icons' theme from the title sequence. The bike chase is just there. Pointless.
I pretty much agree with that. |
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Perilagu Khan 00 Agent
Posts : 5674 Member Since : 2011-03-21 Location : The high plains
| Subject: a Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| - CJB wrote:
- The tank chase is a good bit of fun in a film that feels a bit dour at times. I just wonder how Bond managed to roll that thing unimpeded all the way from St Pete's city centre to that deserted train depot.
No one had a bazooka handy? Well, you know what they say about bazookas--there's never one around when you need it. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: Martin Campbell will never direct a Bond movie again Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:16 pm | |
| - Perilagu Khan wrote:
- Erica Ambler wrote:
- Of course, Roger Moore laid into QoS before Campbell. It's interesting rereading this thread now that Craig has effectively disowned QoS with his 'We got away with it, but only just' comment.
Funny that QoS still has its supporters when even its principals are keen to distance themselves from it. Since the opinions of the "principals" are almighty, I assume you'll embrace CR given DC and Micolli's appreciation for it. if Babs wishes to bow before me I'll kiss her arse. Thank God for dental dams. |
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