Keeping Bond And Beyond alive

CJB wrote:

I think going back to "hiding" the forum from non-registered users is worth a shot. Perhaps a trial period of 30 days. There's little incentive for a curious observer to register and post with the forum in its present state.

I'm in serious agreement with this. Every time I log in, there's more guests browsing the forum than registered members. Right now as I write, there are 15 people browsing here, and only 5 of them are visibly logged in as registered members. Which means there could be a good four or five people just reading the boards who might not even be registered here, possibly because they don't feel an overwhelming need to, given that they feel they're keeping up to date with everything here enough by just reading rather than posting. Whereas with a logged in status as well as the easy quick reply feature, that could very well change.

I miss the days when about 15-20 registered members would be logged in here every time I visited, as it was far more representative of what a great and popular team effort this place had become.

Like CJB said, I think at least a 30 day trial or something with the log in requirement restored can't harm, just to see how it goes.

You might be on to something there Lazerbee!

tiffanywint wrote:

You might be on to something there Lazerbee!

Yes, I can't really argue with this because the facts are there and they don't lie. We can give this 30 days, more if the forums pick up as a result.

Why not see if some of the members of DanielCraigIsNotBond would want to join. From what I can tell many of them are as mad as some of you. They have a real passion for Bond, many of them are into Star Trek to (which seems to be a topic of discussion here) and have a life outside of Bond. They also have no love for Mi6 or CBn, so should fit in here well. I believe Makeshift Python is a member. Perhaps he could enquire?

I meant to make invitations at that place but last time I was there the board was riddled with bugs.

Chang wrote:

They also have no love for Mi6 or CBn, so should fit in here well. I believe Makeshift Python is a member. Perhaps he could enquire?

I'll try as well. (Lord Shark).

Do we REALLY want a crowd of one-note Craig-haters on here?

Well it would be nice to bring in some people with different opinions, makes for some good discussion. Seeing as they are fans of the classic Bond era, I'd welcome them. Besides, we all have a dig at Babs, Purvis and Wade now and again and a few of us loath Quantum Of Solace so I don't think it would be a bad move to bring in people who are, shall we say, less appreciative of the Craig era.

Exactly - this place is full of one-note Craig haters as it is. ;)

Blunt Instrument wrote:

Do we REALLY want a crowd of one-note Craig-haters on here?

Not if they come to dominate BaB, I don't. But I wouldn't object to a smallish infusion of them.

I'll pin my courage to the sticking place and openly admit - in case anyone missed it - that I like Daniel Craig and Casino Royale (which is about half an hour too long, though, and has a messy end) and Quantum of Solace (which I thoroughly enjoyed).

I'll be outside. Form an orderly queue ;)

I'm basically with you, Rave. I think DC's done a good job so far, rate CR No.2 behind OHMSS, and I've got QOS in the middle of the pack. So that's two of us.

Yay. Good. You can watch my back ;)

Well, you all know that Quantum of Solace for me rates higher than Casion Royale, with one of the reasons being that characterization of Bond being very much in line with Fleming's idea of him, and I think Daniel Craig portrays itl deftly.

I've got CR ranked a solid 21st with QoS a close 22nd. I think that's fair as there are 20 other Bond films that I enjoy more.
I'm kind of a fan of the pre-Haggfish, pre-Babs-out-of-control, pre-blue-speedo era.

The finger slobbering in the shower scene still gives me night terrors. Shudder.

FieldsMan wrote:

Well, you all know that Quantum of Solace for me rates higher than Casion Royale, with one of the reasons being that characterization of Bond being very much in line with Fleming's idea of him, and I think Daniel Craig portrays itl deftly.

The characterisation of Bond is something that most people who aren't fans of QOS have an issue with(for one thing, the Bond of the books doesn't go around killing everyone in sight), but I suppose it's open to interpretation. Personally, I enjoy QOS for the most part, but I pretty much detest CR.

G section wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

Well, you all know that Quantum of Solace for me rates higher than Casion Royale, with one of the reasons being that characterization of Bond being very much in line with Fleming's idea of him, and I think Daniel Craig portrays itl deftly.

The characterisation of Bond is something that most people who aren't fans of QOS have an issue with(for one thing, the Bond of the books doesn't go around killing everyone in sight), but I suppose it's open to interpretation. Personally, I enjoy QOS for the most part, but I pretty much detest CR.

I don't mean to go off topic, but hey, the topic lead here, didn't it?

It's not so much Bond killing everyone that I find Flemingesque. They are the instances such as Bond showing regret whilst killing Slate, contemplating murder/suicide in the wonderfully designed burning building (almost directly ripped from literary MR), working on instinct/gut feelings, such rescuing Camille from the boat at the docks to keep her out of trouble and Bond's reluctance to comply with a girl (Fields) who can jeopardise his mission (akin to literary FYEO). Moments akin to this demonstrate my preference to Bond's characterisation, as opposed to the unfeeling (Renard?) Bond of Casino Royale who stampedes through embassies, breaks into a superior's apartment and retract an penetrated nail from his shoulder all the while joking about whether Le Chiffre will be remembered for scratching balls or not.

Casino Royale is still a fantastic film, and to critics and film goers, nothing is really that wrong with Casino Royale, but when looked at subjectively by a James Bond fan - and this applies to any Bond film - there are instances in each film which we find work for us and others that don't. It's down to what each individual wants in a Bond film. I'm slightly disappointed with Casino Royale because the novel was excellent and I feel the mood and ambiance wasn't really taken into consideration, along with Bond and Vesper's characterisations.

FieldsMan wrote:

G section wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

Well, you all know that Quantum of Solace for me rates higher than Casion Royale, with one of the reasons being that characterization of Bond being very much in line with Fleming's idea of him, and I think Daniel Craig portrays itl deftly.

The characterisation of Bond is something that most people who aren't fans of QOS have an issue with(for one thing, the Bond of the books doesn't go around killing everyone in sight), but I suppose it's open to interpretation. Personally, I enjoy QOS for the most part, but I pretty much detest CR.

I don't mean to go off topic, but hey, the topic lead here, didn't it?

It's not so much Bond killing everyone that I find Flemingesque. They are the instances such as Bond showing regret whilst killing Slate, contemplating murder/suicide in the wonderfully designed burning building (almost directly ripped from literary MR), working on instinct/gut feelings, such rescuing Camille from the boat at the docks to keep her out of trouble and Bond's reluctance to comply with a girl (Fields) who can jeopardise his mission (akin to literary FYEO). Moments akin to this demonstrate my preference to Bond's characterisation, as opposed to the unfeeling (Renard?) Bond of Casino Royale who stampedes through embassies, breaks into a superior's apartment and retract an penetrated nail from his shoulder all the while joking about whether Le Chiffre will be remembered for scratching balls or not.

I have to agree there, that was brilliantly done as was the scene on the plane with Bond getting sloshed, reminiscing about Vesper. As I said, I don't really have a problem with QOS (the action grates at times) and I can't really complain about the revenge theme, as I am a fan of Licence To Kill (although I would imagine Bond's personal body count is a lot lower than in QOS). CR is where they got things horribly wrong. Having said all that, in Fleming's You Only Live Twice, Bond takes a walk to cool off, not a needless shoot 'em up. Just putting things into contrast.

Ravenstone wrote:

Yay. Good. You can watch my back ;)

Your sacroiliac--among other things--is sacrosanct.

I wouldn't characterize Bond as contemplating murder/suicide. That's a horrible thing.Rather he considers that he is facing certain death and briefly considers the least painful way to go, until he realizes there is a possible way out.

tiffanywint wrote:

Rather he considers that he is facing certain death and briefly considers the least painful way to go, until he realizes there is a possible way out.

Sounds like my viewings of the film.

Sharky wrote:

tiffanywint wrote:

Rather he considers that he is facing certain death and briefly considers the least painful way to go, until he realizes there is a possible way out.

Sounds like my viewings of the film.

What like walking out of the theatre as "a possible way out"?)

Actually I think us filmgoers were in a worse predicament than Bond. We had to see it through if only to get our money's worth. Bond found a way out into the sunshine.

Elvis in his underwear still give me night terrors. Haggis and Forster are two very weird cats.

Ed Tom Kowalsky wrote:

Your sacroiliac--among other things--is sacrosanct.

And that's not easy to say :D

tiffanywint wrote:

I wouldn't characterize Bond as contemplating murder/suicide. That's a horrible thing.Rather he considers that he is facing certain death and briefly considers the least painful way to go, until he realizes there is a possible way out.

Well, that's precisely what I implied, but I wanted to do so in a not so clunky form because I'd probably confuse everybody, myself included.

FieldsMan wrote:

tiffanywint wrote:

I wouldn't characterize Bond as contemplating murder/suicide. That's a horrible thing.Rather he considers that he is facing certain death and briefly considers the least painful way to go, until he realizes there is a possible way out.

Well, that's precisely what I implied, but I wanted to do so in a not so clunky form because I'd probably confuse everybody, myself included.

Well thank your for that sentiment because I am easily confused :cherry: (sorry just trying out a different emoticon)