9/11: 10 years later

"In an office fire, you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel."

Er, yeah, but this is isn't your usual bleeding office fire. We're talking about a shitload of kerosene.

You're a cool guy Drax, I like you. That's why I'm gonna kill you last.

Interesting video Drax.

A cover up to protect the war economy, hhmmm?

It sounds like a film. Maybe one directed by Tony Gilroy, Steven Soderbergh or Paul Greengrass and staring George Clooney or Matt Damon.

Sharky wrote:

"In an office fire, you cannot generate enough heat to melt steel."

Er, yeah, but this is isn't your usual bleeding office fire. We're talking about a shitload of kerosene.

And it's not like you actually had to melt it. All that was necessary for collapse was to weaken the structure sufficiently. Once you do that--through heating, not melting the steel, and through the damage done by the jet explosions--the immense weight will do the rest.

It's not bad to ask questions. It's something very few of us do. There is a difference, however, between asking questions and acting like a raging asshole who is the infallible word of truth while the rest of the world are bleeting sheep blinded by the evil United States government.

Sadly, a lot of the conspiracy theorists are the latter. Which puts them below Jim Garrison and somewhere between birthers, NWO theorists, and Apollo deniers.

Tubes wrote:

It's not bad to ask questions. It's something very few of us do. There is a difference, however, between asking questions and acting like a raging asshole who is the infallible word of truth while the rest of the world are bleeting sheep blinded by the evil United States government.

Sadly, a lot of the conspiracy theorists are the latter. Which puts them below Jim Garrison and somewhere between birthers, NWO theorists, and Apollo deniers.

There are some government explanations for which I do not believe: JFK's assassination, the crash of TWA Flight 800....but I'm fairly certain we know the full story of 9/11. While it's good to have a healthy bit of skepticism in regards to what the government tells us, being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical isn't enlightened thinking either.

The conspiracy theories I've read are so far fetched that they are essentially rendered impossible to believe. The cover-up would be on a scale so massive that it would require thousands of people to keep silent about the matter, and there's no way in this day and age people could hide the truth about 9/11.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

The conspiracy theories I've read are so far fetched that they are essentially rendered impossible to believe. The cover-up would be on a scale so massive that it would require thousands of people to keep silent about the matter, and there's no way in this day and age people could hide the truth about 9/11.

Exactly. This isn't CAPRICORN ONE. In the digital age, that kind cover-up would be impossible.

Whether 9-11 conspiracy theories have any validity aside, I am not sure about cover-ups being impossible.

Intelligence operations tend to be very compartmentalized. (I learned that from reading spy-fiction), but even for persons that know something, their info is quite useless if major media won't pick it up.

They can spread it all over the internet, but it will just end up on alternative news websites or conspiracy sites or blogs.

Basically in our culture, if such provocative stories are not given major television or print reportage, they effectively didn't happen or won't be given serious consideration.

I am watching this old 1972 movie

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068718/

and look what's in it!!

it's still difficult to believe that they are gone!!

The Hot Rock (movie watched by J7) is a great little urban caper movie. One of my favourites. Both Redford and George Segal are in their prime.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw-jzCfa4eQ

Full version of the video I posted last time. Sorry if this offends some, but imho more people need to watch this with an open mind and think soberly about the ramifications.

What "ramifications?"