Daniel Craig: "New look" for Bond 23

GeneralGogol wrote:

Sharky wrote:

GeneralGogol wrote:

I preferred Bond's style in QOS to CR. He looked more natural in his QOS suits. Craig may have looked dour and sleepless in too much of the film, but I found his slimmer weight made him look a bit taller.

It also made him less imposing. Since Craig is naturally a shortarse with a small frame, he needs all the protein shakes and weights he can get.

Yes - he was definitely less imposing than in CR. That's something the cinematographers could've worked around. Judging by his latest appearances, Craig seems somewhere in the middle right now. I still think he shouldn't bulk up too much. The early Connery and Dalton had the closest physique to Fleming's tall, lean Bond. Bond should never be a rambo/Schwarz-type of hero.

Agreed. Though with Sly/Rambo, if you notice, he's only insanely bulked in the third and fourth films. FIRST BLOOD PART II also marks a clear difference. Take a look at the final freeze frame shot. The proportions are all f-ed up.

In the first film, he looks relatively normal.

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

Erica Ambler wrote:

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

And the villains should all be midgets.

Erica Ambler wrote:

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

Newman? Wasn't he tall enough?

6of1 wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

Newman? Wasn't he tall enough?

He claimed 5' 9" but I reckon he was 5' 6".

Erica Ambler wrote:

6of1 wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

Newman? Wasn't he tall enough?

He claimed 5' 9" but I reckon he was 5' 6".

Well, I never! I'd have put him down at 6'1" or 6'2" at least. 5'9" with the 'actors lifts' would put him into Captain Kirk league. I never suspected.

GeneralGogol wrote:

Erica Ambler wrote:

The sets should be made two-thirds scale. Worked for Paul Newman.

And the villains should all be midgets.

Well Matthieu Amalric came pretty dashed close.

I only knew about the Alan Ladd town being scaled to him, but Newman WAS kinda short.

Apparently he was pretty touchy about it too.

When i heard about Bond go to India, wish it going look like this picture of Mi4 who also go to India.



Bigger picture:
http://www.imdb.com/media/rm2419441152/tt1229238

Bond/Daniel Craig look much better in QOS then in CR. I whas happpy Lindy Hemming whasn't ask back. Not only Bond but almoost the whole movie it look better. Thanks to the production designer and cinematopgrapher too of course. The theater scene whas great with all those Tuxedo's. Lindy Hemming did a great job for James Bond chacter and in specialy for TMND but DAD in specialy be disapointed and CR also a litle bit.

With a new look i hope there mean there find a style who bring back of the more shine colors of the old days. You don't expect cold = black/white (QOS) but more a mix of black/white (for the cold parts in for example Turkey, Russia), yelllow (Madagascar in CR for India) and Red/brown look (because of China). Warm/darker colors in other words. Atleast i don't whant a monkey look for DC again.

How Bond looks is less important than how Mr Craig conveys his wardrobe....in the previous films he appeared excruciatingly uncomfortable in anything other than a tee-shirt.

Unfortunately the chance of Bond showing his less PC features brings with it the liklihood that the story will generate some emo justification to attempt to excuse it...Bonds strength of character, his choice of life and style is something that they seem happy to undermine and devalue. Eccentricity and quirkiness is a strong feature of British fiction but it onscreen it needs to be an inherent part of the performance not some heavily signposted and scripted element that ends up at odds with the rest of the portrayal.

Loomis wrote:

It's almost it, but not quite. The quiff makes him look like Tintin.

It is a bit too poofy. But having it styled, period, would be a big step up methinks.

Check out these promo images for CR and QoS respectively... there's a world of difference:

Louis Armstrong wrote:

Loomis wrote:

It's almost it, but not quite. The quiff makes him look like Tintin.

It is a bit too poofy. But having it styled, period, would be a big step up methinks.

Check out these promo images for CR and QoS respectively... there's a world of difference:

That promo pic pretty much sold me on Craig as Bond back in '05. If my first impression of him had been the long blond haIr he had at his initial press conference, I would've been as mortified as many others had been.

It probably wouldn't have worked in CR as Craig was playing a juvenile Bond and needed a less mature hairstyle to match his yoofness.

CJB wrote:

That promo pic pretty much sold me on Craig as Bond back in '05.

Same here. I thought: damn, this looks like a mature Bond. And then they gave him a Young Bond story to do. *sigh*

Hearing his voice at the press conference sealed the deal for me. Not many men can seal the deal with me like that. :bounce:

Louis Armstrong wrote:

Check out these promo images for CR and QoS respectively... there's a world of difference:

Those promo images were both for CASINO ROYALE. The first was before they started shooting, when Craig was working on another film (hence the longer hair). The second was essentially a recreation, but after they had settled on a look for Craig's Bond.

Ah, thanks.

I never really get the "too short" thing. He's reported as 5'11 & 1/2", which still makes him the shortest Bond but he could still dunk on Jack Bauer and Ethan Hunt. And be well above average. Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway. They apparently find plenty of average-height actors and low camera angles to sell him.

I think the "change" will be more to classic digs. It's a trend, now, anyways, the 60s look. Working with Tom Ford makes me think it's gonna be more of that retro look that he was getting into the last time 'round. Which is fine by me.

00Twelve wrote:

I never really get the "too short" thing. He's reported as 5'11 & 1/2", which still makes him the shortest Bond but he could still dunk on Jack Bauer and Ethan Hunt. And be well above average. Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway. They apparently find plenty of average-height actors and low camera angles to sell him.

I think the "change" will be more to classic digs. It's a trend, now, anyways, the 60s look. Working with Tom Ford makes me think it's gonna be more of that retro look that he was getting into the last time 'round. Which is fine by me.

Agreed on Craig's height. It's just not a problem.

And if B23 goes for the retro look, I'll be happy with the way the film looks.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

00Twelve wrote:

I never really get the "too short" thing. He's reported as 5'11 & 1/2", which still makes him the shortest Bond but he could still dunk on Jack Bauer and Ethan Hunt. And be well above average. Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway. They apparently find plenty of average-height actors and low camera angles to sell him.

I think the "change" will be more to classic digs. It's a trend, now, anyways, the 60s look. Working with Tom Ford makes me think it's gonna be more of that retro look that he was getting into the last time 'round. Which is fine by me.

Agreed on Craig's height. It's just not a problem.

And if B23 goes for the retro look, I'll be happy with the way the film looks.

Not sure what the retro look is, but I can safely say that Craig has looked his best in both Casino Royale and Lara Croft:Tomb Raider when he was wearing spiky hair and bright colored clothes. Craig shape-shifts and morphs into someone else when his hair is darker or his clothes are older and I don't think that would be a good look for Bond.

00Twelve wrote:

Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway.

Gemma Arterton is 5' 7" and Craig had to wear shoe lifts for their scenes together.

Craig 5'11"? No way. He looks 5' 9" to me. In shoes.

Harmsway wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVYPHx59JfA#t=24s

00Twelve wrote:

I never really get the "too short" thing. He's reported as 5'11 & 1/2", which still makes him the shortest Bond but he could still dunk on Jack Bauer and Ethan Hunt. And be well above average. Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway. They apparently find plenty of average-height actors and low camera angles to sell him.

Bond is usually easily visible in crowds, but not Craig. The pursuing Vesper through crowds in Venice is where it is screamingly obvious, but he even seems small next to vehicles, which is the usual giveaway.

Then again, throughout my 20s I never realized Morgan Fairchild was only 5-3, so maybe it is a matter of the proper misdirection ...

Erica Ambler wrote:

00Twelve wrote:

Craig never appears short in his Bond films, not to me, anyway.

Gemma Arterton is 5' 7" and Craig had to wear shoe lifts for their scenes together.

Craig 5'11"? No way. He looks 5' 9" to me. In shoes.

That is because Arterton is wearing high heels.

Also, I admit that I was *slightly* off, he's apparently just over 5'10". Statistically, he's still taller than most people here. Big deal. (Hey-o!)

I'm not an absolute purist, though. Would I like to see someone who's brunette and 6'+ with a cruel mouth, scar on cheek, and loose comma of hair on his forehead? Absolutely. Would I care about that more than I appreciate how Craig just acts the SHIT out of his material? Not a chance.

As long as the new look isn't Bond in flipflops, I think I'll be cool.

00Twelve wrote:

As long as the new look isn't Bond in flipflops, I think I'll be cool.

I remember on the old forum when everyone freaked the hell out because of that set photo of Craig wearing jeans in the desert.