Creepiest Character in a Bond Film

Hilly wrote:

The more you rage about Lazenby Monkeys the more I can't help but think there's something much deeper behind it. Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

A case of self-hating Australianism.

Hilly wrote:

Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

He temporarily ruined James Bond for me. Does that count?

CJB wrote:

Hilly wrote:

The more you rage about Lazenby Monkeys the more I can't help but think there's something much deeper behind it. Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

A case of self-hating Australianism.

Lumme, sounds painful. Question is, can it be cured? :*e*:

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Hilly wrote:

Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

He temporarily ruined James Bond for me. Does that count?

Afraid not

Hilly wrote:

CJB wrote:

Hilly wrote:

The more you rage about Lazenby Monkeys the more I can't help but think there's something much deeper behind it. Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

A case of self-hating Australianism.

Lumme, sounds painful. Question is, can it be cured? :*e*:

You tie him up, I'll get the Men at Work CD.

CJB wrote:

Hilly wrote:

CJB wrote:

Hilly wrote:

The more you rage about Lazenby Monkeys the more I can't help but think there's something much deeper behind it. Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

A case of self-hating Australianism.

Lumme, sounds painful. Question is, can it be cured? :*e*:

You tie him up, I'll get the Men at Work CD.

Sounds like a plan even if some reason I'm having the image of a silent movie or Marx Brothers film.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Hilly wrote:

Like Lazenby did something to you personally once. Deep... deep... psychologically speaking.

He temporarily ruined James Bond for me. Does that count?

But Lazenby had no hand in the script. Connery's Bond would have done the same thing. Okay, you don't like him, which is all understood, but if you don't like what he's saying, not how he's saying it, you should be hating on Richard Maibaum,

The White Tuxedo wrote:

Good choice. I think some people are confused by what "creep" means.

I'd also add Brink to the list, as it is quite clear to me that she was trying to get inside of Bibi's leotard:



Locque may be an even better choice. Certainly sleazy.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

I think some people are confused by what "creep" means.

What does it mean?

FieldsMan wrote:

But Lazenby had no hand in the script. Connery's Bond would have done the same thing. Okay, you don't like him, which is all understood, but if you don't like what he's saying, not how he's saying it, you should be hating on Richard Maibaum,

As I said above, I don't like the way Lazenby delivers the lines. He comes across as sleazy and creepy, especially given the way the girls are brainwashed by Blofeld. It's almost as if he's taking advantage of their suggestible state. I think that if Connery was playing Bond in OHMSS, he would have delivered the same line a different way. After all, Bond witnessed the brainwashing session, and he clearly noticed a change in Ruby's behaviour. If Connery had been in the role, I think he would have used the pick-up line to gain access to the second girl's room because sometihng suspicious was happening and he wanted to confirm it; ie, if Ruby was being brainwashed, were all the girls the same? Yes, Connery would have slept with them, but he wouldn't come across as a creepy, sleazy bastard.

The problem is that Lazenby's delivery of the line is far too eager for my liking. He's clearly ignoring the psychadelic light show in Ruby's room, her sudden and abrupt change in behaviour, and the highly-suggestible state of the other girls. Alarm bells should be ringing, because something clearly is not right at the clinic. Instead, he just goes in and sleeps with the others.

That's not Lazenby's delivery, but George Baker's.

Sharky wrote:

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

I think some people are confused by what "creep" means.

What does it mean?

When I think of "creepy" I think of someone that unsettles you, makes you uncomfortable, someone you don't trust, someone that makes your skin crawl, someone who is perverted, etc...

Someone nominated May Day for the thread, but I think that's a bit of an exaggeration. She may not be everyone's favorite villain, but I wouldn't rate her anywhere near being a "creep". For true "creep honors" I'd nominate:

Drax: sexless, droll, and unemotional. He was very ambivalent about killing his personal assistant, or the way in which he killed her, and showed no emotion when Bond killed Drax's sniper (not even the slightest feint of surprise or scandal).

Vargas: Because you just know that beneath his inability to talk with a woman or make eye contact lies the beating heart of a sexually frustrated rapist.

Vlad & Elvis: because no normal, well-adjusted, mature, adult male wears his hair that way.

Maximillian Largo: possessive, easily angered, jealous. Cannot predict what he might do when provoked.

Yeah, I love May Day. One of the best Bond villains, but I wouldn't call her a creep.

Maximilian Largo?

:)

PS--To my mind, creepy means some combination of perverse, disturbed and slimy. Anybody possessing a significant quantity of those characteristics qualifies as a creep.

Or a person you would let your children be around.

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

If Connery had been in the role, I think he would have used the pick-up line to gain access to the second girl's room because sometihng suspicious was happening and he wanted to confirm it; ie, if Ruby was being brainwashed, were all the girls the same? Yes, Connery would have slept with them, but he wouldn't come across as a creepy, sleazy bastard.

One small point, since Sharky already pointed out that the actual delivery was by George Baker:

Bond didn't leave Ruby to go to Catherine von Schell's room - he found her in his room. With no time to think or prepare, he just improvised and went with what had just worked - which always gives me a chuckle. ("Hilly, you old devil!")

PM, you seem to be confusing Bond's motivation with what you imagine Lazenby's motivation to be. George was just doing what the script and director said to do; we all know by now that George was incapable of delivering a layered performance. As for what Connery would or wouldn't do, well, that's academic, isn't it? The script was written with Connery's model of Bond in mind.

It's always annoying to read when someone says what one actor's Bond would or wouldn't do in another movie, as if they've visited an alternate reality and seen another version of the film. One might as well say "Connery's Bond would never pretend to neck with himself" or "Roger Moore's Bond would never push a man trapped in a car off a cliff."

But, to each their own. You don't like Lazenby, so he will never do right by you. That's how some feel about Moore, Brosnan and even Craig.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

I'd also add Brink to the list, as it is quite clear to me that she was trying to get inside of Bibi's leotard:

Sadly Brink is the hottest woman in FYEO.

AMC Hornet wrote:

It's always annoying to read when someone says what one actor's Bond would or wouldn't do in another movie, as if they've visited an alternate reality and seen another version of the film. One might as well say "Connery's Bond would never pretend to neck with himself"

Haha. It's like they couldn't convince any girls to make out with Sean.