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EllBond
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PostSubject: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:27 am

I was having a discussion with my brother and we started talking about the significance of the Bond Girls. I believe that Bond girls play an important part in the Bond films, they are strong-willed, resourceful and of course glamorous. They are one of the many things that signify a Bond film. However, my brother said he thinks there could be a Bond film without a Bond girl!

Just wanted to find out other people's opinions. Could there really be a Bond film without a Bond girl?
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PostSubject: Re: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:55 am

You could, but why would you? The Bond girl has been part of the formula from the very beginning.
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PostSubject: Re: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Thu Mar 16, 2017 2:54 am

In many ways isn't that what we got with Skyfall? ... unless you count 'M' but it is a different form of Bond girl in that case. Most of the Craig era films seem to exist with the female characters more on the periphery than previously imo.

To make the very best film they can the key is really to provide interesting characters of all forms (people who you think might exist outside the central narrative) Mendes makes an attempt but it seems a bit of a lost art at this moment and not just for Eon.
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PostSubject: Re: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:39 am

We still have Severine, lachesis. In my eyes she's the main Bond girl, since M is M, and Eve is Moneypenny (and I don't believe they slept together in Macau).

Perhaps you could, but I wouldn't want that to happen. It might have been Fleming's intention with Moonraker, though even then, there was a(n) (engaged) Gala Brand who did get cosy with Bond at one point, IIRC, and went for a naked swim.

I think people criticised Dalton in TLD as being the sexless Bond by having one Bond girl (ignoring the girl in the PTS), so I'm not sure such a move would be a commercial one. Not to mention in this day and age, when political correctness comes into effect, and there's a push for the inclusion for everyone who isn't a white, heterosexual male. For actresses, it's a great thing, because parts that may have been written for males as now female roles, which in turn also leaves the door open for these stronger female characters to be Bond girls (or Bond women).

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PostSubject: Re: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Fri Mar 17, 2017 2:36 pm

What would be the point? A large part of Bond's character is that hes a charming ladies man. Kind of hard to show that if there are no girls around.

There are constructive ways to evolve the franchise and there are pointless ones. I think this falls under the category of pointless.
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PostSubject: Re: Could we have a Bond film without a Bond girl?   Sun Aug 27, 2017 3:43 pm

Don't be silly it will make boring & Bond fan like it . Someone close this thread.
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