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I like to think EON have more sense than Ritchie but God knows anymore.
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Joe Dante has always been the most intriguing choice, I think he would have been the first American director if he took the gig.
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I'd love Joe Dante to do it. He's got a great sense of humour and the absurd. Who would he hire as composer now Jerry's long gone?

Probably way off the cards now, though.

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I don't care who directs as long as we dispense with the drama Bond.
Bond on mission, without issues please, but I am not holding my breath.
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Some of the most boring films in the series have been the simple "Bond on a mission" set-ups because there is no potential to explore any themes.

I also think you are generalising far too much by calling it "drama Bond". Some of the more dramatic themes that have been explored in the recent films have been much stronger and much more interesting than others. CASINO ROYALE looked at what it meant for Bond to be a cold-blooded killer, whilst SKYFALL looked at how Bond responded to an attack that, by its very nature, was personal. Both of those were interesting, and both of those were handled well. On the other hand, QUANTUM OF SOLACE was very ham-fisted in the way it handled its themes of revenge and agents being used as part of a wider socio-political game, neither of which was very interesting.

There is still plenty of scope for BOND 24 to examine interesting themes and to do it well.
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I don't consider any the first twenty films to be boring. Boring doesn't even enter into it. Craig-Bond is drama Bond. All three of his films bear me out. He has trust issues in all three films. Yawn. But I wouldn't call any of his films boring either. Just not my cup of Bond.
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I don't think you can really have a Bond film where Bond isn't invested in the plot in some way. It doesn't have to be personal, but it does have to be something a little more than his job. There has to be something compelling him to keep going, something that makes the audience believe that the villain is a genuine threat and Bond's life is in jeopardy. Because the alternative is something like THE SPY WHO LOVED ME, which is completely disconnected from the audience. We might as well be watching Bond file paperwork.
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I don't care who directs as long as we dispense with the drama Bond.
Bond on mission, without issues please, but I am not holding my breath.

The "drama" between Bond and Severine in the casino was more riveting then any "mission" in which Bond has ever been involved. If that's drama, continue to bring it on, and then some.
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To be honest, I don't see such a strong divide between pre-Craig Bond films and Craig-era films. There's been great writing and bad writing in both eras. And remakes galore. Let's face it, Skyfall borrows a lot from the canon, especially the four Brosnan films - however, the writing and directing lifts it above any of those films. I can't imagine Skyfall being outdone any time soon in terms of plot-related drama ie. internal problems in MI6 and Bond-M trust issues. We have a new start with M, Q, Moneypenny, etc. in place.
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A time travel movie?

Wasn't Inception also a time travel movie?
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A time travel movie?

Wasn't Inception also a time travel movie?


Yes. It was about a diverse group of white people who go back in time to stop a certain person from ever being born, thus never being able to log onto Bond And Beyond and ask pointless, inane questions that could be easily answered with a quick Google search if he weren't too busy furiously wanking off to Sarah Michelle Gellar porn sites.

I think you get the....uh....thrust of it.


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What about Ralph Fiennes? It would compensate for not having as big a role Dench's.
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I don't care who directs as long as we dispense with the drama Bond.
Bond on mission, without issues please, but I am not holding my breath.

The "drama" between Bond and Severine in the casino was more riveting then any "mission" in which Bond has ever been involved. If that's drama, continue to bring it on, and then some.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Bond having personal issues, something Connery was never plagued with.
Craig-Bond I am sure though will always have his issues. Yawn.

On another note,TSWLM is a damn fine Bond movie, other than that the tone of the series suddenly got a little too light - just enough that one would notice, but Spy was also Rog's coming out party. Ham and Mankiewicz and Saltz were gone and it was Rog and Cubby running the show now.

If Craig could make a great escapist Bond movie like Spy and with a stronger female lead, I would be his number one fan!!!! I would promote him from the depths he currently occupies, to #3 on the all-time great Bonds list behind Sean and Laz, which is as high as any mere mortal can go,not born into either clan Connery or Lazenby.
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Basically you want the Bond that was portrayed as nearly unflappable by Connery and Moore, and away from the conflicted hero interpretation that Dalton, Brosnan, and now Craig is portraying. More black and white, less grey. I doubt that will happen as long as Mike and Babs run the show.
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Basically you want the Bond that was portrayed as nearly unflappable by Connery and Moore, and away from the conflicted hero interpretation that Dalton, Brosnan, and now Craig is portraying. More black and white, less grey. I doubt that will happen as long as Mike and Babs run the show.

Can a 007 movie be fun or would that destroy anything at all.

I liked the DB5 moments the best in the last movie, that was fun. The catch and escape of Silva was a bit meh, the trainbit a bit over the top for no reason whatsoever.
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I thought the PTS, Komodo dragon fight and underground chase were pretty fun, too.
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I thought Skyfall was fun. Maybe the 007 films will return to the more lighthearted entries like Moore era but it won't happen until a new guard is taking over. Mike and Babs prefer the kind of films that have been made since 1987 and will continue to make them until they step down and allow the next generation (Gregg Wilson) to make their own path. Might not happen until the next decade.
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What about Ralph Fiennes? It would compensate for not having as big a role Dench's.

How do we know that he won't have as a big a role as Dench?

Indeed, in order to help create the all-consuming serious drama that's obligatory in a modern Bond film I'd imagine that Fiennes will be in every other scene of BOND 24.
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I thought the PTS, Komodo dragon fight and underground chase were pretty fun, too.
I did like the way Bond takes the time to abuse Q for being unhelpful when he's in the tunnels, even when a train is barrelling down on him,
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Bond 24 needs an action/thriller director.

Here's my submissions:

Fred Cavayé who wrote and directed the excellent films:

Point Blank http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1545759/

and

Anything For Her http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1217637/;

he also co-wrote The Next Three Days with Paul Haggis http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1458175/, which is the remake of Anything For Her.

Philipp Stölzl who directed the suspenseful Nordwand aka North Face http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0844457/

By the way, he also directed Garbage in The World Is Not Enough music video.

Florent-Emilio Siri who directed the action packed Nid De Guêpes aka The Nest.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0280990/

If you haven't seen this movie, you have missed out!!

Its main star is a strong heroine played by Nadia Farès , who should be a Bond Girl!

Siri also directed the Bruce Willis thriller Hostage and the Algeria War movie L'ennemi Intime aka Intimate Enemies

Julian Gilbey who directed the thriller A Lonely Place to Die http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1422136/

His other credits include the Horror movies Reckoning and Dog House and Rise of the Footsoldier
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Am wondering what Anything For Her is like, 'cause The Next Three Days was shit.
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Largo's Shark wrote:
What about Ralph Fiennes? It would compensate for not having as big a role Dench's.

How do we know that he won't have as a big a role as Dench?

Indeed, in order to help create the all-consuming serious drama that's obligatory in a modern Bond film I'd imagine that Fiennes will be in every other scene of BOND 24.

In order to help create the all-consuming serious drama that is the obligatory modern Bond film, Fiennes will probably need to take over the role of Lead Bond Girl, much like Dench did. Fiennes is still slightly young enough that you could buy him in a relationship with Craig's Bond. Ang Lee to direct. Barbara will definitely get her long-sought-after, coveted Best Picture award because the Academy would not dare to deny Ang Lee the same award twice. It's a win/win for everyone!
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j7wild I sugest Nadia Farès as Bond girl in 2011-2012. Part of my sugestions for Bond 24: 007 in New York.
More about her https://bondandbeyond.forumotion.com/t371p75-actors-actresses-you-d-want-to-see-in-future-bonds page 6.
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Python wrote:
Basically you want the Bond that was portrayed as nearly unflappable by Connery and Moore, and away from the conflicted hero interpretation that Dalton, Brosnan, and now Craig is portraying. More black and white, less grey. I doubt that will happen as long as Mike and Babs run the show.
Yes, except that Dalts and Broz were nowhere near as grevious as Craig. Craig IMO, when he is on, is a better Bond than either of his immediate predecessors, but it's his films that are the problem.
Neither the Dalts nor Broz Bond were beset with the personal and trust issues that Craig's Bond deals with, thus I much prefer their Bond movies, even if Craig can be a formidable Conneryesque Bond when the material allows.
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I don't care who directs as long as we dispense with the drama Bond.
Bond on mission, without issues please, but I am not holding my breath.

The "drama" between Bond and Severine in the casino was more riveting then any "mission" in which Bond has ever been involved. If that's drama, continue to bring it on, and then some.
That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about Bond having personal issues, something Connery was never plagued with.
Craig-Bond I am sure though will always have his issues. Yawn.

On another note,TSWLM is a damn fine Bond movie, other than that the tone of the series suddenly got a little too light - just enough that one would notice, but Spy was also Rog's coming out party. Ham and Mankiewicz and Saltz were gone and it was Rog and Cubby running the show now.

If Craig could make a great escapist Bond movie like Spy and with a stronger female lead, I would be his number one fan!!!! I would promote him from the depths he currently occupies, to #3 on the all-time great Bonds list behind Sean and Laz, which is as high as any mere mortal can go,not born into either clan Connery or Lazenby.

Oh. "Melodrama" Bond, then. Sorry, but I just can't tap into the negativity on this issue. Fleming's Bond, contrary to common belief, was a very complex character. I enjoy it when some of that complexity makes it into the cinematic variant.
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