Bond 25 (2019)

I doubt Hemsworth will get it... Sure, he might be the right age, but he's not the best actor and he's too high profile. It would be like casting Brad Pitt, IMO. Except that Brad Pitt is a better actor...

I haven't seen Aidan Turner in anything, but I think he looks too squirrelly for Bond. Grav, I reckon Fassbender looks pretty close to this photo:

FieldsMan wrote:

I doubt Hemsworth will get it... Sure, he might be the right age, but he's not the best actor and he's too high profile. It would be like casting Brad Pitt, IMO. Except that Brad Pitt is a better actor...

I haven't seen Aidan Turner in anything, but I think he looks too squirrelly for Bond. Grav, I reckon Fassbender looks pretty close to this photo:

That's a good picture of Fassbender. Problem is, time is running out for him. If he's going to be Bond they've got to make a move towards him soon. With the 3-4 year gaps now common between the films, he'd only get a shot at 3, maybe 4 films before it's time to recast. It's not like back in the old days when Cubby let an actor do 6 or 7 films.

There are some good shots of Turner from AND THEN THERE WERE NONE where he's in a tux, smoking, drinking...looking kind of Dalton-ish. I'd also say his performance in both ATTWN and POLDARK remind me of Dalton; so it's more than just the look; it's the acting...the vibe...the performance. And he'd be young to do 5-6 pictures before retiring.

Norton and Lewis may be good actors, but they don't look like Bond. I've seen Norton in GRANTCHESTER and in WAR AND PEACE and he didn't jump off the screen at me; Damian Lewis even less so.

Fassbender/Turner/Hiddleston would be in my top three right now. Idris Elbow is in my bottom 4 BILLION. In fact, Elbow is so low in my opinion he's not even worth ranking.

I'd have to check out this Turner chap. Thanks for the recommendations. Going solely by his photos, yes, I can see the Dalton resemblance, I think all of Dalton's features seem to have been emphasised in Turner, and makes him look less like a James Bond to me.

But yes, I'd much prefer him to Elba. Fassbender is my absolute number 1, and then Hiddleston as a second preference (if I had to choose, and if an unknown actor isn't found). But you're right in Fassbender's age being his issue. He's fine for now, and can grow into the role, but if Craig comes back for Bond 25, I reckon we can say goodbye to his chances of becoming Bond, and he'll enter the much discussed 'alternate James Bond timeline', and all those 'could have been Bond' discussions - that I'm dreading.

Tom Hughes is another name that's being thrown around. I haven't seen The Game, but he plays a spy during the Cold War and apparently it's peaked Bab's interest. Probably just tabloid garbage. He seems very young (quick google search says he was born in '86), and his google images reveal terrifying headshots... He'd probably make a better villain, to be honest (just going by his look).

Ah, so that's what Hughes looks like ... hmm, can't say I'm sold.

FieldsMan wrote:

I'd have to check out this Turner chap. Thanks for the recommendations. Going solely by his photos, yes, I can see the Dalton resemblance, I think all of Dalton's features seem to have been emphasised in Turner, and makes him look less like a James Bond to me.

But yes, I'd much prefer him to Elba. Fassbender is my absolute number 1, and then Hiddleston as a second preference (if I had to choose, and if an unknown actor isn't found). But you're right in Fassbender's age being his issue. He's fine for now, and can grow into the role, but if Craig comes back for Bond 25, I reckon we can say goodbye to his chances of becoming Bond, and he'll enter the much discussed 'alternate James Bond timeline', and all those 'could have been Bond' discussions - that I'm dreading.

Tom Hughes is another name that's being thrown around. I haven't seen The Game, but he plays a spy during the Cold War and apparently it's peaked Bab's interest. Probably just tabloid garbage. He seems very young (quick google search says he was born in '86), and his google images reveal terrifying headshots... He'd probably make a better villain, to be honest (just going by his look).

Turner was also in THE HOBBIT (but I've never seen those films). I'm judging him strictly on two projects that I've seen him in. He handles the action scenes well enough in POLDARK, and he was sufficiently brooding and mysterious in AND THEN THERE WERE NONE, which I didn't think was a particularly interesting adaptation of Agatha Christie's novel, but he was fairly good in it (also starred Toby Stephens from DAD).

If you Google search him you need to look for pix from ATTWN, otherwise you'll come up with some of the "squirrely" pictures you referenced that make him look like a 60's hippie/beatnik. He cleans up well once he's in a tux with a cig and a drink in hand and in his tux, and the comma of black hair dangling over his face. Problem is Poldark has a similar scar as Bond (not that Fleming's description has ever been followed to the letter by the movie producers). But *if* you were really going to try and cast an actor that could physically resemble Fleming's imagination, Turner could be your guy.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/james-bond-producer-daniel-craig-934121?utm_source=twitter

Apparently Babs and Michael were/are hoping for Craig to return. I know, it's confusing, but that's the article. This also comes off the back of The Hollywood Reporter reporting Susanne Bier was shortlisted for Bond 25, which she confirmed that she hasn't been approached, so validity is questionable.

If it's true, it doesn't fill me with much confidence in Babs and Michael, and the series taking the direction that will make Bond great again.

Babs and Michael are a couple of morons if they want to keep banking on someone who has shat on the role and said he's only in it for the money, that is, if he decides to grace us with his presence. Sorry, but Craig's motivation for Casino Royale has now become "don't call me, I'll call you" and I seriously do not need this shit.

From all contenders to date, I'm only keen on Fassbender...and might be swayed by Turner.

bitchcraft wrote:

Babs and Michael are a couple of morons if they want to keep banking on someone who has shat on the role and said he's only in it for the money, that is, if he decides to grace us with his presence. Sorry, but Craig's motivation for Casino Royale has now become "don't call me, I'll call you" and I seriously do not need this shit.

From all contenders to date, I'm only keen on Fassbender...and might be swayed by Turner.

Having just finished watching WOLF HALL, all I can say is that Damien Lewis would be as wrong for Bond as Idris Elbow would be.

I could accept: Fassbener, Aidan Turner (my personal favorite at this point), maybe Cavill....but not Lewis or Elbow.

Yeah I saw Lewis in Our Kind of Traitor, and while he was great, James Bond isn't his casting. Or Elba's. I was also thinking that Cavill might be ok also. He looks the part, and if it means they tailor his portrayal to his range, like they did with Moore and Dalton, then hopefully it will mean less personal garbage.

http://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/james-bond/44308/daniel-craig-doesn-t-seem-to-want-to-quit-james-bond-role

Think I recall it being said at the time that the 'I'd rather slash my wrists' comment was due it being the day after SPECTRE finished shooting and Craig being knackered, but not in time to stop it gathering steam as a 'Craig wants to quit Bond' story.

Well considering that MGM blasted Craig for his negative comments, I wouldn't be too quick to believe that he's mellowed since then. He's probably learned to be more diplomatic.

Regardless of what's been said now, I still hope he's done with Bond. Plus, he's only getting older. He's got other projects, as does Babs, and by the time Eon decide to revisit Bond, he'd be too old. Perhaps it's a means of Babs letting go of Craig gently? One can hope...

Craig's tenure is surely done. How many people watched SPECTRE and desperately wanted him back for #5?

Going by other Bond boards (except MI6) and IMDB forums, quite a few people do. Many don't, but a good many do.

Floats, boats, et cetera, but I honestly saw nothing in Craig's performance that merited another go. He was duller than ever before, not least of all when he was aping Roger Moore.

The curse of the fourth* Bond film is real, and SPECTRE shows its presence is as strong as ever.

*By virtue of his sheer masculine will, Connery only succumbed in his fifth outing.

Why haven't Babs and Wilson announced Bond 25 starring Michael Fassbender with a 2018 release yet?

The wait is killing me. I'm afraid at this point we won't get a new Bond movie before October 2019.

We know they've been brainstorming ideas since earlier this year, so who knows where they're at at the moment. They could be onto a treatment/early script stage. A 2018 release is still viable since they normally start shooting the December before the release year, so they could start shooting in December 2017, ready for a November 2018 release. If we don't hear anything by June, I doubt we'll get a Bond film in 2018.

But then it depends - will they wait for Craig? What else is Babs producing? Has she hired writers? Is she looking at a new distributor, or will MGM do it in-house?

The other thing is that the closer the release date is to SPECTRE, the greater the chance that Craig will return. So if that's the case, then I'd rather wait an extra year with Mr Fassbender in the role.

Hey Grav, Moore favours your Aidan Turner!

http://holtspot.com/james-bond-former-bond-roger-moore-reveals-choice-role-daniel-craig-states-opionion-woman-playing-bond/

I don't know if I'd trust a source that fails to capitalise names.

Slightly off topic, but it reminds me of how Sir Roger had bile heaped on him for saying he didn't think Idris Elba was suitable for the role. The kind of things being said about him on soshul meeja made you realise that some people actually don't give two shits about the series and just want their identity politics advanced.

I once knew someone who was disappointed that the Doctor's most recent incarnation on Doctor Who was Peter Capaldi ... not because she thought he was wrong for the part or was even a fan of the show, but because she thought a chance to be *progressive* had been missed.

Now, the show's mythology has it that Time Lords can regenerate as a different colour/gender to their previous one (fine by me, they're not human after all) and it may well happen in the future ... we'll see. But as another example of the sort of thing you're talking about CJB, the above pissed me off.

Blunt Instrument wrote:

I once knew someone who was disappointed that the Doctor's most recent incarnation on Doctor Who was Peter Capaldi ... not because she thought he was wrong for the part or was even a fan of the show, but because she thought a chance to be *progressive* had been missed.

Now, the show's mythology has it that Time Lords can regenerate as a different colour/gender to their previous one (fine by me, they're not human after all) and it may well happen in the future ... we'll see. But as another example of the sort of thing you're talking about CJB, the above pissed me off.  

If The Master could become Missy, it's possible.

Isn't Aidan Turner's qualification getting his shirt off?

In this case we may finally get Lucy Pinder as a Bond girl, huzzar

FieldsMan wrote:

We know they've been brainstorming ideas since earlier this year, so who knows where they're at at the moment. They could be onto a treatment/early script stage. A 2018 release is still viable since they normally start shooting the December before the release year, so they could start shooting in December 2017, ready for a November 2018 release. If we don't hear anything by June, I doubt we'll get a Bond film in 2018.

But then it depends - will they wait for Craig? What else is Babs producing? Has she hired writers? Is she looking at a new distributor, or will MGM do it in-house?

The other thing is that the closer the release date is to SPECTRE, the greater the chance that Craig will return. So if that's the case, then I'd rather wait an extra year with Mr Fassbender in the role.

One thing you have to remember is he's doing a 20 episode commitment to the tv show PURITY (on Showtime?). If I'm the new studio that's co-financing the next Bond film, do I really want my lead actor also appearing on a tv show? Why would I pay Craig $20-25 million for one more Bond film when I can get either a recognizable movie actor (Hiddleston) or an up-and-coming star (Turner; transitioning from tv to feature film stardom) for 4 films for the same price?

I think Craig's foray into television work is the worst possible statement he could've made and that includes his wrist-slashing comment. He's devalued his brand as a feature film actor.

I'm watching THE NIGHT MANAGER and I'll have finished it this weekend and then I'll know better whether Turner or Hiddleston should get the part.

Devalued his brand as a film actor ... really? In these days of multiple movie remakes/reboots/sequels, isn't the general consensus nowadays that the good writing is actually more to be found on TV and that a part in a 'meaty' drama is actually a prime gig?

Blunt Instrument wrote:

Devalued his brand as a film actor ... really? In these days of multiple movie remakes/reboots/sequels, isn't the general consensus nowadays that the good writing is actually more to be found on TV and that a part in a 'meaty' drama is actually a prime gig?        

That's why I said "as a film actor". I agree most of the best entertainment these days is to be found on network television, cable, or streaming services. But very few have ever been able to be a star in both big-screen feature films and also as a television actor....at the same time. The basic problem is feature film producers don't want their main stars being accessible for free on television (which is one reason why Cubby wouldn't deal with NBC to let Pierce do both Remington Steele and THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS).

If you're a movie star you are expected to be exclusively in movies; if you're a tv star, you can do tv and then the occasional feature film (back in "the old days" tv actors would get a summer break and make a movie like DIE HARD or BACK TO THE FUTURE). But most people try to make the leap from tv to feature films, not the other way around. It's like Congressmen....most people will attempt to move from the House to the Senate, but not the other way around. A feature film actor, if successful, is the surest ticket to working less and making more money than having to do the daily grind of a tv series.

Hm. Must say that personally, I thought times had changed and that any actor worth their salt can move between TV, film, stage and even radio without any perceived diminishing of their 'value' - actually, proof of their versatility INCREASES it.

But maybe that's just me.

EDIT: As an example, Benedict Cumberbatch ... he was recently an acclaimed Hamlet on the London stage, he's currently Doctor Strange on the big screen and the 4th season of Sherlock will air at the beginning of next year.