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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:04 pm | |
| I enjoyed HUGO a lot. If I have to pick his weakest film, it's NEW YORK, NEW YORK. |
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:24 pm | |
| - Salomé wrote:
- Erica Ambler wrote:
- Hitchcock made plenty worse than Topaz, most of them long forgotten.
Any examples? I have to say I enjoy a lot of his less-heralded early Hollywood features. Of his well known stuff, I'd say 'The Paradine Case' is worse than 'Topaz', which suffers from the confused and unfinished script (and Lou Wassermann) more than anything Hitchcock did wrong. The real stinkers are in Hitch's early days in Britain. I was going to say 'Waltzes from Vienna' in particular, but it's better than I remember. Check it out here (I hope you like Strauss): https://archive.org/details/Waltzes_from_Vienna |
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Salomé Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:32 pm | |
| Right. I wondered if you perhaps meant movies like "Saboteur" (which I love).
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:32 pm | |
| Now that I think of it, I can't remember anything about THE PARADINE CASE. It wasn't even that long ago I saw it, it's just forgettable. |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:47 pm | |
| THE PARADINE CASE and UNDER CAPRICORN were flat-out boring, as well.
However, UNDER CAPRICORN had Jack Cardiff behind the camera, which lead to some excellent camerawork. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:53 pm | |
| I didn't even finish UNDER CAPRICORN. There was a novelty to it for 30 mins, seeing Hitch trying to pull off a costume drama, but as you say it's utterly boring. Waste of a cast too. I'll give points to him for actually trying to do different genres in the 40s. I do think MR. & MRS. SMITH would have greatly benefited if he infused his macabre approach with the screwball formula, rather than actually trying to do a straightforward screwball. |
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 9:55 pm | |
| - Control wrote:
- THE PARADINE CASE and UNDER CAPRICORN were flat-out boring, as well.
The Paradine Case also wasted the immeasurable talents of Alida Valli. |
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Strangways&Quarrel 'R'
Posts : 353 Member Since : 2013-03-26 Location : Florida
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:24 pm | |
| I think the most disappointed I've been from a director I consider great is Michael Mann's Miami Vice movie. It's great on a visual level but outside of that there's not really any real character to the whole film other than being a remake of one of the best episodes of the show (Smuggler's Blues) only much longer and lacking protagonists with actual personality other than just Jamie Foxx playing himself and Colin Farrell playing himself with a moustache.
A runner-up would be Lynch's Inland Empire. I generally find Lynch's stuff not really that hard to figure out but this I can't even begin and I realize it's mostly due to the distracting way the film was shot. It feels more like a YouTube parody of David Lynch than an actual David Lynch film. |
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Mon Feb 02, 2015 10:32 pm | |
| Miami Vice had Gong Li and an Adam A500. That was almost enough for me. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:00 am | |
| The Coen bros are one of my favorite filmmakers, but THE LADYKILLERS was real a chore to watch. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Tue Feb 03, 2015 12:20 am | |
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Xenia93 'R'
Posts : 271 Member Since : 2013-04-17 Location : The Disco Volante
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Tue Feb 03, 2015 3:41 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- The Coen bros are one of my favorite filmmakers, but THE LADYKILLERS was real a chore to watch.
It's definitely their weakest but I didn't hate it. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Tue Feb 03, 2015 4:03 am | |
| It's hard to hate something that's just aggressively mediocre. |
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Salomé Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3303 Member Since : 2011-03-17
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Tue Feb 03, 2015 2:13 pm | |
| - Erica Ambler wrote:
- Miami Vice had Gong Li and an Adam A500. That was almost enough for me.
It also had Colin Farrell giving what was perhaps the most coked up performance in movie history. |
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Fairbairn-Sykes Head of Station
Posts : 2296 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : Calgary, Canada
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sun Feb 08, 2015 3:58 am | |
| Don't know if it's been mentioned yet, but Lynch's DUNE is one of the all time great cinematic disasters in my opinion. (Cue Largo's coming in to say it's great.) |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sun Feb 08, 2015 8:11 am | |
| I haven't even seen DUNE. When I was going through Lynch's entire filmography for the first time, I intentionally skipped that one because I didn't want to sort out through the various three-hour/four-hour editions and Lynch disowned the film anyway, so I never gave it a shot. |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:01 am | |
| Yeah, I forgot all about Dune. What a shame the Jodorowsky version never got made. |
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Fairbairn-Sykes Head of Station
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sun Feb 08, 2015 9:04 am | |
| The recent doc about it was one of my fav films of the past year or so. |
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Largo's Shark 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sun Feb 08, 2015 2:37 pm | |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sat Feb 21, 2015 12:34 am | |
| - Hilly KCMG wrote:
- whether or not he counts as a great director, Terence Young's Inchon
Haven't seen that, but I would also make a case for Young's 'The Jigsaw Man'. Probably the most ploddingly dull espionage 'thriller' I've ever sat through. |
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Sat Feb 21, 2015 2:55 pm | |
| - Blunt Instrument wrote:
- Hilly KCMG wrote:
- whether or not he counts as a great director, Terence Young's Inchon
Haven't seen that, but I would also make a case for Young's 'The Jigsaw Man'. Probably the most ploddingly dull espionage 'thriller' I've ever sat through. Jigsaw Man had legendary financial problems with cast and crew members being fired and rehired on the set on an almost day to day basis. Some films triumph over such troubled production stories (Skyfall's didn't sound too promising for a long time), but not many. Perhaps Brainstorm is case of a disappointing film robbing us of a great director. Natalie Wood died midway through filming and MGM thought it could turn a decent profit by closing the production and cashing in its insurance bond. However, the insurers and director Douglas Trumbull insisted on pressing on. The film went on to lose a fortune and also finished a promising film-directing career. (Trumbull, of course, is the genius behind the visual effects for both 2001 and Blade Runner.) |
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Salomé Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3303 Member Since : 2011-03-17
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Thu Mar 19, 2015 12:50 pm | |
| In terms of my original post in this thread: does anyone have an opinion on Carpenter's "The Ward"? Is it at all worthwhile for me to check it out? I guess it might be worth it just in terms of completing Carpenter's oeuvre by doing so. |
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| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Thu Mar 19, 2015 1:07 pm | |
| Must admit, I still haven't seen The Ward. I took Carpenter at his word when he said he was burnt out.
Coincidentally, rewatched his Vampires the other night. James Woods is as good as I remembered, Laura Palmer less so. |
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Salomé Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3303 Member Since : 2011-03-17
| Subject: Re: The great directors' most disappointing films Thu Mar 19, 2015 2:48 pm | |
| - Erica Ambler wrote:
- Must admit, I still haven't seen The Ward. I took Carpenter at his word when he said he was burnt out.
Coincidentally, rewatched his Vampires the other night. James Woods is as good as I remembered, Laura Palmer less so. The last one of his movies that I rewatched was "Assault on Precinct 13". Someone should do a proper feminist analysis of the Leigh character. |
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