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Subject: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:14 am
First step to getting back on track. There were rumours he'd like to direct a future instalment but he confirmed he didn't want to helm a Bond film after all. Goodbye and good luck!
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:15 am
Thought this was all but confirmed ages ago?
Oh well, it is time for a fresh face. Cregg, God love him, has been in the role for longer than Sir Rog and is only 7 years younger than the latter was in his final movie.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:00 am
He also said he'd rather slash his wrists than do another film...yet here we are.
Difference this time is that there won't be a dump-truck of cash to deliver to his house. NTTD is about to bomb at the box office so spectacularly he won't have to worry about being asked to come back.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:57 am
It goes around in circles CJB, but this seems to be the final confirmation. And you're right Grav. Funny how DAD does very well at the box office with a keen star and they dump him, whereas they push forward with a miscast actor with an indifferent attitude to the series and will likely not make back the money even SP made, especially considering the bigger budget.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 3:34 pm
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
NTTD is about to bomb at the box office spectacularly
From your mouth to God's ears, Gravy...
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 20, 2019 11:18 pm
I still need to see the trailers before I can say it will be a box-office bomb.
I'm actually kinda thinking they'll be good.
That and a 5 yr gap between films (2nd longest in the series) will stir up enough curiousity.
I have zero interest in supporting anything with Lynch after...shoehorn her into something else, not the 007 gig.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:35 am
Quote :
He also said he'd rather slash his wrists than do another film...yet here we are.
A quote that has been floated about out of context by folks like you, wanting to carry a narrative because you personally don’t like the actor and his films.
Whatever. Be spiteful, be toxic, I’ll just look forward to this and hope they pulled off a good flick than act like an old grump.
And yeah, Craig already confirmed two years ago that this will be his last. Old news. We got CR and SF out of it, and if NTTD lives up to hype then happy he’s had a good send off.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:21 am
Thank god. But I'm terrified of were they will go next to be honest.
As always I'd like to reiterate I have nothing against DC whatsoever and it seems like he will be able to continue working and avoid the usual typecasting problems that come post series work.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:19 am
He hasn't always 'helped himself' as it were, but I reckon Craig would be a good laugh over a few pints.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:49 pm
hegottheboot wrote:
Thank god. But I'm terrified of were they will go next to be honest.
As always I'd like to reiterate I have nothing against DC whatsoever and it seems like he will be able to continue working and avoid the usual typecasting problems that come post series work.
If NTtD is indicative, the next stop is hell.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:04 pm
There's a recent interview where Craig admits he was done after SP, but he was contractually obligated to return for this one. Sounds reluctant to me.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:41 pm
Perilagu Khan wrote:
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
NTTD is about to bomb at the box office spectacularly
From your mouth to God's ears, Gravy...
I heard the anecdote about the actresses not being allowed to be referred to as "Bond Girls" on the set on the radio last week. The radio show is a big-time talk show with millions of listeners across the U.S. that I happened to catch flipping the stations and they were mocking No Time To Die and the stupid mandate. If they mentioned Lashanna Lynch I missed it.
Point is that the bad buzz isn't confined to simply within Bond fandom. It's out there in the general public. All of them will have heard that the new 007 is a black woman and half of them will stop right there and make up their mind not to see NTTD (when there's plenty of other good reasons not to see it) and not put in any investigation to get to the facts and I can't say I'd blame them.
To avoid this EON could've simply made Nomi a different 00-agent (and they still might) but they were being intentionally provocative with that decision. They knew what they were doing. They knew how many fans felt about the hiring of Daniel Craig and how he looked absolutely nothing like how James Bond should look, so how could Lashanna stand a chance? I have no sympathy for what EON is about to go through, but they've made these choices leading up to and through the filming of NTTD and now they'll have to ride it out for better or worse.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Fri Nov 22, 2019 10:48 pm
Hard to rebut any of that Grav. I do wonder how Eon or MGM (who really need Bond to bring in the big bucks to survive) will bounce back after NTTD.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:21 am
That's why I want to see the trailers....to see if Lynch sucks the air out of the action sets and if Craig is just a supporting actor.
If not, I think many people will have second thoughts about the film...enough to go see it.
I haven't written it off... yet.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Sat Nov 23, 2019 7:25 am
Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
Hard to rebut any of that Grav. I do wonder how Eon or MGM (who really need Bond to bring in the big bucks to survive) will bounce back after NTTD.
Richard Madden or Henry Cavill will get a casting and we can forget it ever happened.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:44 am
Sounds like Cavill's saying he lost out on Bond because he was carrying a little extra timber at the time.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:57 pm
I think I'm retreating into a world where Fassbender never was considered and never will be.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Sat Nov 23, 2019 9:36 pm
Cavill would be great but still holding out for the Fassbender. He'd need it right about now. Not sure his most recent films have done all that well.
Here is Craig blushing over his kiss with Bond girl Rami Malek and again confirming NTTD is his final Bond film. His exhale at the very beginning with Colbert mentions Bond is pretty telling he is over it, too.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:32 pm
bitchcraft wrote:
That's why I want to see the trailers....to see if Lynch sucks the air out of the action sets and if Craig is just a supporting actor.
If not, I think many people will have second thoughts about the film...enough to go see it.
I haven't written it off... yet.
Well that's you, me and MP prepared to give it a chance on the big screen. Erm ... could be worse?
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:16 am
Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
Hard to rebut any of that Grav. I do wonder how Eon or MGM (who really need Bond to bring in the big bucks to survive) will bounce back after NTTD.
MGM may push for a less controversial pick; more of a consensus, people-pleaser choice and maybe someone who is hot at the moment and has name recognition, which was not the case when Craig was chosen.
But I think there's going to be a long gap in between BOND 25 and 26. Maybe 10 years. Not hard to conceive that we may not get a film again until 2030.
The series is going to have to decide what it wants to be and who it wants to please and I don't know that those questions are going to be easily answered and a film turned out for 2022 or 2023 in such a short amount of time. EON is in a bit of an echo chamber, but hopefully the box office returns will be so miserable they can't miss the message the audience is sending.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:18 am
Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
Cavill would be great but still holding out for the Fassbender. He'd need it right about now. Not sure his most recent films have done all that well.
Here is Craig blushing over his kiss with Bond girl Rami Malek and again confirming NTTD is his final Bond film. His exhale at the very beginning with Colbert mentions Bond is pretty telling he is over it, too.
Craig looking like THAT got 5 films, but Brosnan only got 4?
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:59 am
Hard to fathom, I know.
Grav wrote:
But I think there's going to be a long gap in between BOND 25 and 26. Maybe 10 years. Not hard to conceive that we may not get a film again until 2030.
I don't think so. MGW isn't getting any younger so doubtful he'd wait another 10 years. He's almost 78 years old. There are probably chats happening with his sons (Gregg?) about taking over his position, but Michael would probably want a say in who should be the next Bond.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:29 am
Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
Craig looking like THAT got 5 films, but Brosnan only got 4?
Likely has something to do with Craig's films being more successful than Brosnan's run. If Pierce had a big hit like SKYFALL, that might have encouraged EON to keep him longer.
Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
I don't think so. MGW isn't getting any younger so doubtful he'd wait another 10 years. He's almost 78 years old. There are probably chats happening with his sons (Gregg?) about taking over his position, but Michael would probably want a say in who should be the next Bond.
Word is that Michael will retire after NTTD, and while Barbara will remain a producer she'll let Gregg take the lead in the direction of the Bond series.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Wed Nov 27, 2019 10:03 pm
If Goldeneye was released in 2012, with inflated ticket prices and a bigger population, also being released on the 50th anniversary, it would have received the same reception SF did.
MP wrote:
Word is that Michael will retire after NTTD, and while Barbara will remain a producer she'll let Gregg take the lead in the direction of the Bond series.
Source?
Hopefully Greg looks at what his father accomplished in the 80s and goes with that.
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Subject: Re: Daniel Craig will no longer play James Bond after NTTD Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:25 am
Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang wrote:
If Goldeneye was released in 2012, with inflated ticket prices and a bigger population, also being released on the 50th anniversary, it would have received the same reception SF did.
MP wrote:
Word is that Michael will retire after NTTD, and while Barbara will remain a producer she'll let Gregg take the lead in the direction of the Bond series.
Source?
Hopefully Greg looks at what his father accomplished in the 80s and goes with that.
I was told elsewhere that Gregg is more hands on in the development than would initially appear. Is he the next generation? Who knows. But you'd think he's be out in front of the cameras and doing more publicity if that were to occur. Then again, Barbara didn't come into the limelight fully until after Cubby passed away. She used to turn down a lot of offers for interviews and magazine shoots back in the 90's, preferring to let Michael be the face of the franchise. And then something changed. She dumped Brosnan at his peak and married her interest in making a Bourne-like Bond with her politics. In fact, I'd be surprised if Craig's politics don't match her own. Feels like she got a kindred spirit in Craig, and in a way he's become more powerful than MGW; calling the shots in a way I don't remember any of the previous actors doing. Pity about MGW, really. His contributions to the series have been excellent.
I don't know if Barbara has any kids. I'm sure Branwell McClory would run the franchise if only EON would give him the chance.
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