Do you think the new Bond woman is attractive or no?

It's normal for Bond women to be attractive and goodlooking, but this new one played by Lashana Lynch, just isn't that good and she's kind of strange looking. Not to come down to hard on her, but to me at least, she looks like Dennis Rodman. Is it just me?

Now I know the idea is to have a woman that doesn't look like she is being objectified in anyway, but can't a woman not look objectified, but still not have to look like Dennis Rodman either?

What do you think?

I'm not attracted to her.

But then I think she'll be the new kind of lead Bond girl to the series, in that she and Bond won't sleep with each other.

Perhaps Bond will try to but since she's an independent black woman who don't need no man, she'll be heralded as progressive and strong.

Because sex is bad.

I guess so, but isn't a woman being sexually liberated a part of feminism though, and should be viewed as such?

You've just hit the nail on the head of the hypocrisy of the left, my friend.

Oh okay, but is this movement of women thinking sex is bad, a left thing?

Both of you are mistaken. Lashana Lynch is not the leading actress of the film, it's Léa Seydoux. Lynch is playing a supporting female character.

Oh okay I guess it's just marketing then, as she is getting front and center attention on some of the earlier posters and all.

ironpony wrote:

Oh okay I guess it's just marketing then, as she is getting front and center attention on some of the earlier posters and all.

Seydoux had her own poster as well, but I agree and would say both Lynch and Ana de Armas have gotten a good push in marketing more so, most notably in that Hollywood Reporter bit with the two of them doing photo shoots together. Since they're newer to the series, they naturally get more exposure rather than a returning character. Fiennes, Whishaw, and Harris certainly don't get much publicity like they did with the lead up to SF.

That said, the billing on the poster and even the trailer itself makes it clear Madeleine is the leading woman. Which surprised me because I assumed she would get killed off in the PTS.

Oh okay, but Madeleine was such a poorly received character though, in Spectre, with many fans not liking her, so why would they bring her back for a front and center role, when she was poorly received?

Because for some reason the filmmakers think they have a good story that involves her, and hopefully it's an improvement over what we got in SP. But we'll have to see.

Makeshift Python wrote:

ironpony wrote:

Oh okay I guess it's just marketing then, as she is getting front and center attention on some of the earlier posters and all.

Seydoux had her own poster as well, but I agree and would say both Lynch and Ana de Armas have gotten a good push in marketing more so, most notably in that Hollywood Reporter bit with the two of them doing photo shoots together. Since they're newer to the series, they naturally get more exposure rather than a returning character. Fiennes, Whishaw, and Harris certainly don't get much publicity like they did with the lead up to SF.

That said, the billing on the poster and even the trailer itself makes it clear Madeleine is the leading woman. Which surprised me because I assumed she would get killed off in the PTS.

You're right.

But anything goes at this point. Lea Seydoux might have more screen time but if it deals with cloning, Madeleine could very well be killed off in the PTS only for her duplicate to appear later on. Or vice verse.

From what I could tell, it looks like what happens in the PTS is that Bond puts her on a train as if this is the last time they'll see each other. "This is it?" "This is it". And then we get that shot of Madeleine's POV in the train with Bond watching her leave his life, which may segue into the titles. Bond won't see her for four years until she's at the prison that Blofeld is being held at, which is why he looks surprised to see her.

Bizarre to think that, of all places, Madeleine returns to England (assuming that's where Blofeld is imprisoned) to work. To have her work alongside authorities seems contradictory to her wanting out of that kind of life at the end of Spectre, and then to (potentially) actively participate in Brofeld's case is a bit of a stretch. If she didn't return to her job in Austria because the organisation had found where she was hiding out, one would expect she'd say 'no thanks' to this particularly case.

They could then ask Molly Warmflash to take over.