North Korea declares "state of war"

Back on topic, and North Korea seem to be issuing threats daily: now, they're threatening to close a joint North-South factory complex, which would leave hundreds of South Koreans stranded behind the border (and also shut down one of their few sources of currency, suggesting that they did not think this all the way through).

Keep thinking of DAD: "When they come south we'll hit them with everything we have..."

However deluded he is, he must realise that any action on his part would be idiotic to say the least.

Thanks to DAD, I assume every rich, white do-gooder is a shape-shifting North Korean officer.

Maybe all of those global warming folks are really North Korean officers. :affraid:


Either way, this whole thing is reminding me of a very cheesy joke in REVENGE OF THE NERDS III: THE NEXT GENERATION

I'm wondering how Kimmie brainwashes his masses to believe he is a demi-God. Especially when they are starving while he's sipping cognac.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

I'm wondering how Kimmie brainwashes his masses to believe he is a demi-God. Especially when they are starving while he's sipping cognac.

It makes me wonder whether an invasion of North Korea would lead to the masses greeting the US & Friends as liberators or whether there'd be the sort of fanatical insurgency we saw in Iraq.

Insurgency.

Kim is able to hold onto his position because he has a cult of personality - which means he takes part in brainwashing on a national scale. He effectively controls all of the media in the North, which means that he can tell his people to think whatever he wants them to think. He inherited this cult of personality from his father, who inherited it from his father before him, so the entire nation has been conditioned to believe these things for sixty years.

On top of that, the regime in the North cracks down on any thought or action that they find to be undesirable - and they do so swiftly and brutally. Dissidents are locked up in gulags, as are their entire extended families. The lucky ones are worked to death; the unlucky are subject to human experiments to develop the North's chemical weapons programme.

America is moving missile shield to Guam.

Part of me thinks it's laughable someone two years older than myself might soon (or not at all) be raging action against America. Dreams of my youth.

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/319544048736169987

"North Korea approves "merciless" nuclear strike on U.S. involving possible use of "cutting edge" nuclear weapons."

Just out of curiosity: The last time there was this dangerous and mad dictator with weapons of mass destruction such a person and country got invaded and the dictator killed.It did turn out to be a big fat lie and his army was a bit of a laugh as it turned out.

And this time we know it for sure and....................................???

saint mark wrote:

Just out of curiosity: The last time there was this dangerous and mad dictator with weapons of mass destruction such a person and country got invaded and the dictator killed.It did turn out to be a big fat lie and his army was a bit of a laugh as it turned out.

And this time we know it for sure and....................................???

Kim Junior hasn't gained the kind of notoriety that Saddam had...eg for torturing and murdering thousands of his own people. If Kim wasn't cussing the west everyday while he secretly gorges on US hamburgers and looks at nude white women on the internet, your average worldwide citizen would not even know who he is.

Jack Wade wrote:

"North Korea approves "merciless" nuclear strike on U.S. involving possible use of "cutting edge" nuclear weapons."

The term "cutting edge" is particularly apt, since North Korea's nuclear capabilities are probably about as effective as a hand saw.

Mrs Aural Sects wrote:

Kim Junior hasn't gained the kind of notoriety that Saddam had...eg for torturing and murdering thousands of his own people.

Oh, he does that.

In North Korea, dissidents are swiftly and brutally punished. They are sent to forced labour camps, where they are worked to death or used for human experiments in developing the North's chemical weapons programme. Their families are also rounded up and subject to the same fate - even when they are the ones who report the original dissident.

On April 1st Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Dissidents are locked up in gulags, as are their entire extended families. The lucky ones are worked to death; the unlucky are subject to human experiments to develop the North's chemical weapons programme.

Today Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

In North Korea, dissidents are swiftly and brutally punished. They are sent to forced labour camps, where they are worked to death or used for human experiments in developing the North's chemical weapons programme.

You're in a desert, walking along when you look down and you see a tortoise, PM. It's crawling toward you. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.

Largo's Shark wrote:

On April 1st Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

Dissidents are locked up in gulags, as are their entire extended families. The lucky ones are worked to death; the unlucky are subject to human experiments to develop the North's chemical weapons programme.

Today Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

In North Korea, dissidents are swiftly and brutally punished. They are sent to forced labour camps, where they are worked to death or used for human experiments in developing the North's chemical weapons programme.

You're in a desert, walking along when you look down and you see a tortoise, PM. It's crawling toward you. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.

Euh................ Replicant??

Largo's Shark wrote:

You're in a desert, walking along when you look down and you see a tortoise, PM. It's crawling toward you. The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.

I'm not entirely sure what your point is, since the only alternative I can think of is pretending that these things don't exist.

If you're referring to the comment about those who are worked to death being lucky, all I can say is that if I was given the choice between being worked to death or being an unwilling guinea pig for the development of chemical weapons, I'd pick the former and consider myself lucky.

saint mark wrote:

Euh................ Replicant??

Prisoner Monkeys wrote:

I'm not entirely sure what your point is, since the only alternative I can think of is pretending that these things don't exist.

Replicant.

Either that or a flamboyant protocol droid.

Or a guy who did his research. The North's crimes have been documented, even if they're not as widely-publicised as their nuclear ambitions.

Anyway, two Mudusan missiles - along with trucks fitted out with launch pads - are believed to have been moved to a secret location somewhere on the North's east coast:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-04-05/north-korea-move-second-missile-to-east-coast/4612746

Speculation suggests they could be fired in ten days' time, to mark Kim Il-sung's birthday (they have some wierd traditions). Analysts claim that firing missiles into the sea could be a way for the North to end hostilies on their terms, having made their point without actually having started a war. But that was before a second missile was put in position.

Foreign embassies told to leave for their own safety

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22045245

Shows what I know, didn't think we'd have one there. Sure I read years ago the North Korean one in London was in some Wembley office block...best tell them to move out and ditch their Tesco club cards.

Wasn't a British diplomat recently snapped roller-coastering with Dear Lardo?

Blunt Instrument wrote:

Jack Wade wrote:

https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/319544048736169987

"North Korea approves "merciless" nuclear strike on U.S. involving possible use of "cutting edge" nuclear weapons."

So that's what a North Korean sybian looks like.

With a missile test expected on or before April 15, Japan has made it clear that they will shoot down any missile that they think poses a danger to them.

North Korea has responded by threateneing to attack to Tokyo. Presumably with a missile that Japan will shoot down.

We all get the newsfeeds, Shadow. What's your own take on this?

In all seriousness, I think Kim has over-played his hand. When his father (and, I'm assuming, his grandfather) was in control, there was a certain understanding of what could be done and how far he could reasonably go with his war-mongering. Jong-un lacks an understanding of the nuances of this. He has accelerated from being in a stalemate to making threats of thermonuclear war in the space of a week. He's gone too hard, too fast, and he's painting himself into a corner. He can't shoot first, because he'll be flattened in short order. And at the same time, he can't afford to not shoot, because he'll lose the support of the Workers' Party and the people just as quickly. His father would find an exit strategy where he could back down, but still call it a victory in front of his people, but Jong-un seems unpredictable. And to complicate things, he has reportedly replaced all of his top military advisors with people loyal to himself. The entire cult of personality seems to have come full circle, and Jong-un believes the things he says about himself. I don't think he wants a war, but I think he wants to be able to do something to make the Americans back down. Maybe he thinks that launching a missile will shock everyone into backing off and force them to take the North seriously, but if it comes to an open conflict, it wouldn't surprise me if he thinks he can win it.

The world, however, finds itself in a unique position. North Korea never should have been allowed to obtain nuclear weapons, and while the usual routine of sanctions and negotiations delayed them by about twenty years, the North still has nuclear weapons. However small and unreliable they might be, something needs to be done, because they're going to continue to develop those bombs, which will only embolden them further. So right now, we have the opportunity to show North Korea that its behaviour will no longer be tolerated.