Quantum of Solace in Review

GeneralGogol wrote:

There's much more to cinema than this left-right bazaar shit.

Damon and co reduce it to that level. They insult cinema.

Sharky wrote:

Ambler: That's another good one. Pretty evocative with the train through the Alps. I can't remember, does that traveling theme reappear in SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM?

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o ignore them because of Damon's politics is crazy as he's considerably to the right of Craig.

I'm not sure what you mean this, ambler. It's common knowledge that Damon, Clooney and co are as to the left as any in Hollywood. A bunch of naive ideologues. Craig is fairly mild in comparison, though that may be his undoing, since he's less likely to speak out against any left or right content in his screenplays.

Most American left-wingers would be defined as Conservatives in Britain. Daniel Craig came out for Barack Obama in 2008.

The politics are getting blown way out of proportion and is borderline paranoia. It's not like it was a Michael Moore film.

Jack Wade wrote:

The politics are getting blown way out of proportion and is borderline paranoia. It's not like it was a Michael Moore film.

No, apparently it was and stupid old me just missed it all... :roll:

ambler wrote:

Sharky wrote:

Ambler: That's another good one. Pretty evocative with the train through the Alps. I can't remember, does that traveling theme reappear in SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM?

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o ignore them because of Damon's politics is crazy as he's considerably to the right of Craig.

I'm not sure what you mean this, ambler. It's common knowledge that Damon, Clooney and co are as to the left as any in Hollywood. A bunch of naive ideologues. Craig is fairly mild in comparison, though that may be his undoing, since he's less likely to speak out against any left or right content in his screenplays.

Most American left-wingers would be defined as Conservatives in Britain.

The Hollywood elite gang aren't most left wingers.

Jack Wade wrote:

The politics are getting blown way out of proportion and is borderline paranoia. It's not like it was a Michael Moore film.

It's the closest yet Bond's got to Michael Moore.

Sharky wrote:

And it's not just Damon. Greengrass, Clooney, Penn, Gilroy, Haggis, Soderbergh and co, are birds of the same feather.

This is true. A veritable echo chamber, that lot.

Salomé wrote:

Sharky wrote:

Khan don't take no prisoners.

Khan needs to choose his targets more carefully.

I need to take my ego out of the equation. I need to be sure you can trust me.

**Let's kiss and make up**

:pirat:

ambler wrote:

Sharky wrote:

Ambler: That's another good one. Pretty evocative with the train through the Alps. I can't remember, does that traveling theme reappear in SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM?

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o ignore them because of Damon's politics is crazy as he's considerably to the right of Craig.

I'm not sure what you mean this, ambler. It's common knowledge that Damon, Clooney and co are as to the left as any in Hollywood. A bunch of naive ideologues. Craig is fairly mild in comparison, though that may be his undoing, since he's less likely to speak out against any left or right content in his screenplays.

Most American left-wingers would be defined as Conservatives in Britain. Daniel Craig came out for Barack Obama in 2008.

I believe Clooney and Damon campaigned to have Trotsky included as a write-in candidate.

In all seriousness, Ambler, I rather doubt Craig is to the left of that pair of yobs. The UK and Old Europe hardly have a monopoly on radical Leftists.

Stilicho Bias wrote:

In all seriousness, Ambler, I rather doubt Craig is to the left of that pair of yobs. The UK and Old Europe hardly have a monopoly on radical Leftists.

Maybe not. However, Craig has expressed support for Obama, suggested it's time for a black Bond, and dressed in drag for International Women's Day. More seriously, he binned his copy of Casino Royale. :evil:

I didn't hear the bit about him saying it's time for a black Bond. That saddens me. On the other hand, my guess is that he was coached to say this. Could you imagine the firestorm that would descend upon Craig and the Bond series if Craig had the temerity (and clarity) to suggest that Bond is an inherently, intrinsically white character? He would immediately be branded a racist and the Bond series a white supremacist enterprise. Forthwith, the multiculti ninnies in the media would connect the dots back to that mean old racist Ian Fleming. End of story. And the end of Bond in any remotely recognizable form. As penance, moreover, you can bet Craig's successor would be black.

I have no defense for Craig doing the drag bit for International Women's Day, however. I can only hope he's a dupe rather than a believer. Neither is terribly flattering.

Stilicho Bias wrote:

I didn't hear the bit about him saying it's time for a black Bond.

It originates from this.

It is interesting that he used the word coloured, though. Definitely not a PC term today.

Yes, I imagine Craig's minders rapped his knuckles but good for saying "coloured." The rest of his thoughts on Bond are typical entertainment industry pabalum.

This discussion is increasingly reminding me of a politburo meeting.

I move that General Gogol is resettled. For his own benefit. Comrade Sharky, see to it.

Sharky wrote:

Ambler: That's another good one. Pretty evocative with the train through the Alps. I can't remember, does that traveling theme reappear in SUPREMACY and ULTIMATUM?

Certainly there are variations on it in Supremacy. Can't say I cared for Ultimatum so can't remember if it's reused there as well.

Craig's politics are certainly left of centre, but thankfully he's yet to reach Sean Penn's stratum of lunacy and call for Western journalists who call Chavez a dictator to be jailed.

To quote David Stratton:

Something’s happened to James Bond... and it isn’t good... [t]he oddly titled QUANTUM OF SOLACE is almost 40 minutes shorter than CASINO ROYALE. What’s missing is plot, dialogue, atmosphere – all the things that made the Bond films better than average.

I was about to post in this thread on CBn about this film and realised an analogy like "The plot is looser than Tila Tequila's t***" probably wouldn't fly there.

Thought I'd share that.

Vesper wrote:

And even if you reject that assertion (I don't) it still makes no f*cking sense, is full of flat characters, tonal inconsistencies and plot holes galore.

Not to mention that arse end of a title song.

Vesper wrote:

Ha, odd. I can't get past how the ending's ripped right out of The Bourne Supremacy

Does this forum have any moderators??? :roll:

This Vesper guy should be banned.

Where is Dublo when you need him?

MOO7RE wrote:

Where is Dublo when you need him?

Dublo turned. Who would've believed it? We still have the photos of him at Baker St before his wedding. :twisted:

ambler wrote:

We still have the photos of him at Baker St before his wedding. :twisted:

Well....business is business, and business must grow, regardless of crummies in tummies, you know!

What courier do we use now partner?

Do we have a Paypal acount active?

MOO7RE wrote:

Do we have a Paypal acount active?

Had a bit of trouble with PayPal after that business with Julian Assange and Wikileaks. Turned out they just wanted a higher percentage. As you say, business is business.

Today's courier is Helga Kurylenko.

People say some parts of QoS aren't very Bondian... This video clearly demonstrates the opposite: