Mad Men

May he never die off. Aside from Don, Roger's the one person who just can't go.

I laughed a lot in the final sequence.

Season 1

1. "Smoke Gets in Your Eyes" - March 1960
2. "Ladies Room" - March or April 1960
3. "Marriage of Figaro" - April 1960
4. "New Amsterdam" - April 1960
5. "5G" - April or May 1960
6. "Babylon" - May 1960
7. "Red in the Face" -
8. "The Hobo Code" -
9. "Shoot" -
10. "Long Weekend" - September 1960
11. "Indian Summer" - October 1960
12. "Nixon vs. Kennedy" - November 1960
13. "The Wheel" - November 1960

Season 2

1. "For Those Who Think Young" - February 1962
2. "Flight 1" - March 1962
3. "The Benefactor" - April 1962
4. "Three Sundays" - April 1962
5. "The New Girl" - May 1962
6. "Maidenform" - May/June 1962
7. "The Gold Violin" - June/July 1962
8. "A Night to Remember" - July/August 1962
9. "Six Month Leave" - August 1962
10. "The Inheritance" - September 1962
11. "The Jet Set" - September/October 1962
12. "The Mountain King" - October 1962
13. "Meditations in an Emergency" - October 1962

Season 3

1. "Out of Town" - March 1963
2. "Love Among the Ruins" - April 1963
3. "My Old Kentucky Home" - May 1963
4. "The Arrangements" - June 1963
5. "The Fog" - June 1963
6. "Guy Walks Into an Advertising Agency" - July 1963
7. "Seven Twenty Three" - July 1963
8. "Souvenir" - August 1963
9. "Wee Small Hours" - August 1963
10. "The Color Blue" - October 1963
11. "The Gypsy and the Hobo" - October 1963
12. "The Grown-Ups" - November 1963
13. "Shut the door. Have a seat." - December 1963

Season 4

1. "Public Relations" - November 1964
2. "Christmas Comes But Once a Year" - December 1964
3. "The Good News" - December 1964/January 1965
4. "The Rejected" - February 1965
5. "The Chrysanthemum and the Sword" - March 1965
6. "Waldorf Stories" - April 1965
7. "The Suitcase" - May 1965
8. "The Summer Man" - June 1965
9. "The Beautiful Girls" - July 1965
10. "Hands and Knees" - August 1965
11. "Chinese Wall" - August 1965
12. "Blowing Smoke" - September 1965
13. "Tomorrowland" - October 1965

Season 5

1/2. "A Little Kiss" - May/June 1966
3. "Tea Leaves" - July 1966
4. "Mystery Date" - July 1966
5. "Signal 30" - July/August 1966
6. "Far Away Places" -
7. "At the Codfish Ball" -
8. "Lady Lazarus" - October 1966
9. "Dark Shadows" - November 1966
10. "Christmas Waltz" - December 1966
11. "The Other Woman" - January 1967
12. "Commissions and Fees" - February 1967
13. "The Phantom" - April 1967

Shall they skip the summer of love?

Maybe April on "The Phantom" CR was out until later in April. I saw a 3/20/67 thing on Megan's slate. And she said something about a week in terms out how long it had been sent out to agents. There's possible development time.

Yeah, I'd say April.

Reposting this from Facebook. What I wanna see in the next two seasons.

-Megan becomes a working actress.
-Betty remains overweight and bitter.
-Henry Francis works for the Nixon '68 campaign and awards Don Draper's agency with masterminding Nixon's pitch to the nation during the shit storm that will be 1968. Don and Henry working together, maybe even developing a healthy respect while glamourpuss Megan has national success? Oh, that'll piss Betty off.

I'd like to see Don win Henry and whomever else over on a professional level. Henry's pragmatic, and will see that Don is the best man for the job.

S5 is my favorite season so far. I think this show has arrived at an amazing place.

This silly woman didn't like it because it made her sad. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/maureen-ryan/mad-men-season-5-finale_b_1578652.html

And she doesn't like that it didn't get into race or the youth culture. MAD MEN isn't the final statement on the 1960's and I wish people wouldn't treat it as such. It's a show about a specific time and place and a group of people within it, and about their comfortable world collapsing around them. It's only going to get worse, and I can't wait to see it.

I wanna watch some Douglas Sirk movies.

How'd it end? Spoilers please.

Yeah I don't understand why people want to to be ABOUT THE SIXTIES -- specifically the modern-centric historical view of the sixties, which is Vietnam, hippies, Brit rock and the civil rights movement.

While all that was going on, working professionals still tied their ties, tucked their shirts in, and did their jobs.




"More Bond than Bond is our motto."

Control wrote:

How'd it end? Spoilers please.

With Nancy Sinatra.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

While all that was going on, working professionals still tied their ties, tucked their shirts in, and did their jobs.

And Don still rocks a hat.

One reason Peggy has to stay is that I see Don as representing the older, fading culture and Peggy the newer, emerging culture. It's not that simple, but I think it's there. Look at how Peggy and people like Stan and Ginsberg dress compared to Don. And look at how modern and chic Ted Chaough is. It's all been subtle, and handled well.

I think Peggy will still play a part. They cut to her and have an office set for her. That's gotta mean something.

The White Tuxedo wrote:

One reason Peggy has to stay is that I see Don as representing the older, fading culture and Peggy the newer, emerging culture.

For me it's more like Don (& co.) are those who will not survive the sixties and Peggy (& co.) are. I don't think Peggy's the newer, emerging culture so much as once the dust is all settled Peggy and those like her will be still standing, and in positions of authority, while everyone else has crumbled.

She'll be giving the yuppies orders in the 80s.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

The White Tuxedo wrote:

One reason Peggy has to stay is that I see Don as representing the older, fading culture and Peggy the newer, emerging culture.

For me it's more like Don (& co.) are those who will not survive the sixties and Peggy (& co.) are. I don't think Peggy's the newer, emerging culture so much as once the dust is all settled Peggy and those like her will be still standing, and in positions of authority, while everyone else has crumbled.

She'll be giving the yuppies orders in the 80s.

That's basically what I'm saying. :) I didn't mean in a broader context so much. Don may still be in the game. Folks like Freddy Rumsen? Not so much.

I don't think I'd want to see the Mad Men cast in the backdrop of the 1970s, but seeing Don and Peggy in the 1980s (if Don lives that long) would be cool.

This is a good writeup: http://www.examiner.com/article/mad-men-season-5-finale-the-phantom-recap-quotes

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

I don't think I'd want to see the Mad Men cast in the backdrop of the 1970s, but seeing Don and Peggy in the 1980s (if Don lives that long) would be cool.

Have I pitched this forum my tongue-in-cheek idea for MAD MEN: THE NEXT GENERATION? I had originally though of setting it in 1987, but maybe 1984 or 85. Sally would be turning 30.

Peggy and Pete run Madison Avenue, but I'm thinking they run seperate firms. Peggy has become Meryl Streep in THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA. Sally works for her as a successful young account woman with a brick phone and shoulderpads. She'd be a Reagan conservative after spending time in some liberation army in the 70's.

Roger's dead. His heart gave out at some party and he died in Mona's arms.

Glen Bishop is at Sing Sing after some pretty brutal murders in the late 70's.

Don is out of prison after being found out. He's living as Dick Whitman in St. Augustine wandering the beach with a beer gut and piss in his pants.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

Control wrote:

How'd it end? Spoilers please.

With Nancy Sinatra.

They played "You Only Live Twice" at the end?

Yep. It was great.

Finally get to see Jon Hamm as Bond as it were.

Jesus, make him learn the accent and put him in a period adaptation of MOONRAKER or something. I'll watch Craig, but he walks like a fucking chimp.

Hamm for Bond. Slattery for Felix. Morse for M. Hendricks for Moneypenny. Liquor and smokes for everybody.

I'm sold. Let's do it, Tux. You've got Slattery's number, right?

MADRAKER, coming 2013.

Control wrote:

They played "You Only Live Twice" at the end?

Yep. And it was stellar, emphasizing a lot of the tensions throughout this season.

But the episode was one of the weaker episodes of the season. It was a bit heavy-handed with completing some arcs (Pete's) and other developments seemed a bit aimless (Sterling, for one).

I do love the final moments with Don, though. He tasted happiness for a bit in this season, and then he lost it, and he's bitter, returning to old ways out of disappointment. (Well, we don't really know for certain that he's returning to old ways--he could say no after the cut-to-black--but he's certainly more interested than he was at that bordello he visited earlier in the season.)

Yeah, it may not be one of the season's best, but I thought it set the stage pretty well for the future. That last sequence, though. Stellar is the word.

Yeah, I stand by my position that a good ending can make me forgive almost anything.

I think of it more as an epilogue to the season than some earth-shattering finale in its own right.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

Yeah, I stand by my position that a good ending can make me forgive almost anything.

I think of it more as an epilogue to the season than some earth-shattering finale in its own right.

Sounds about right. Still, this has been the best season and I'm very excited for the next. Wish I didn't have to wait so long for it.

I do like the idea of seeing where they are in the 1980s. Skip the 70s, allow audiences to connect the dots on what got them there and how they're handling it. I can definitely see Peggy at the top of the food chain.

Fairbairn-Sykes wrote:

Yeah, I stand by my position that a good ending can make me forgive almost anything.

I think of it more as an epilogue to the season than some earth-shattering finale in its own right.

Weiner said last week's episode was the climax and the this was the denouement.

http://www.kansascity.com/2012/06/10/3650551/mad-men-creator-details-decisions.html

You only live twice:
Once when you are born
And once when you punch Pete Campbell in the face.