Bond 25 (2019)

Kath wrote:

(how about an evil Bond equal?)

I believe Alec, Scaramanga and Silva are all intended to represent an 'evil' Bond.

FieldsMan wrote:

Kath wrote:

(how about an evil Bond equal?)

I believe Alec, Scaramanga and Silva are all intended to represent an 'evil' Bond.

Agreed (with the exception of Scaramanga). I was still so stuck in the gender equality debate that I was thinking of Wai Lin whom you had identified as Bond equal in the context of gender, IIRC. So, I was thinking of an evil Wai-Lin-equivalent. A female agent gone rogue might be interesting.

That's why I am scratching my head when I see Scaramanga in that list. Alec and Silva are former MI 6 agents gone dark which allows to interpret them as some kind of mirror to Bond and see them as "what if"-scenarios. What if Bond had not forgiven M? Silva and Bond almost go through the same narrative. "Once I was her favourite..." Moreover, Silva could be a dandy designed by Oscar Wilde. He has a savoir vivre which mirrors Bond quite nicely. They sleep with the same girl after all...

It all helps to prove that Bond is a much better man. He takes the right decision and remains "good" when confronted with the same challenges in life. SF kind of tells the same story for two men who are very alike to each other. That is what makes the film so great, at least for me. They have parted with Silva too soon (come on, to have Oberfeld (or Blohauser?) afterwards was NOT an improvement).
Alec is the MI 6 agent who has defected and betrayed loyalty in pretty much every sense possible. Funnily enough, here, it is Bond who has failed the death-sentence and not M...

If the evil Bond equal was a female equal, however, the whole dynamic would change drastically. She wouldn't be a mirror to Bond anymore. Or at least a different kind of mirror.

FieldsMan wrote:

Kath wrote:

(how about an evil Bond equal?)

I believe Alec, Scaramanga and Silva are all intended to represent an 'evil' Bond.

Don't think that I have forgotten about our argument.

Kath wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

Kath wrote:

(how about an evil Bond equal?)

I believe Alec, Scaramanga and Silva are all intended to represent an 'evil' Bond.

Don't think that I have forgotten about our argument.

The make up sex should be good.

Back on topic, Bond 25's release date is rumoured to be pushed back, following Universal's decision to release the Boyle/Curtis comedy in Sept 2019 - two months ahead of Bond's release. 

Great news in my book, if true.

FieldsMan wrote:

Back on topic, Bond 25's release date is rumoured to be pushed back, following Universal's decision to release the Boyle/Curtis comedy in Sept 2019 - two months ahead of Bond's release. 

Great news in my book, if true.

I agree that it's good news. Maybe the cooling off period will give everyone involved the opportunity to ask themselves if this is something they truly want.

Craig hasn't seemed enthusiastic about Boyle and Boyle was never officially signed and was always non-committal about doing the job. Every statement to the press was "if the script gets into shape"..."if we find the right story line"...why was any of this even being discussed if the principal players hadn't agreed upon a script yet? *IF* my Aunt had balls she'd be me Uncle, but she doesn't, so what's the point in discussing what might've been or what could be? I want to know the facts of where things stand now, and nobody really seems to be sure. This project should be months from filming and they have no agreed upon script and no director and a lead actor who was dodgy on returning in the first place.

FieldsMan wrote:

Kath wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

Kath wrote:

(how about an evil Bond equal?)

I believe Alec, Scaramanga and Silva are all intended to represent an 'evil' Bond.

Don't think that I have forgotten about our argument.

The make up sex should be good.

Are you aware that you are the butt of this joke?


Be that as it may, you have forgotten to explain why Scaramanga ended up in the same group as the former MI 6 agents Silva & Janus. (I have written two entries - missing edit button).


About the post-phoned film-release: we all have known that for a while. Had they wanted to release next year they should be filming right now. Considering postproduction etc. etc. this timetable was always over-optimistic.
The main and most severe problem is that MGM is still offering itself for sale.
This has economical reasons.

Gravity's Silhouette wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

Back on topic, Bond 25's release date is rumoured to be pushed back, following Universal's decision to release the Boyle/Curtis comedy in Sept 2019 - two months ahead of Bond's release. 

Great news in my book, if true.

I agree that it's good news. Maybe the cooling off period will give everyone involved the opportunity to ask themselves if this is something they truly want.

Craig hasn't seemed enthusiastic about Boyle and Boyle was never officially signed and was always non-committal about doing the job. Every statement to the press was "if the script gets into shape"..."if we find the right story line"...why was any of this even being discussed if the principal players hadn't agreed upon a script yet? *IF* my Aunt had balls she'd be me Uncle, but she doesn't, so what's the point in discussing what might've been or what could be? I want to know the facts of where things stand now, and nobody really seems to be sure. This project should be months from filming and they have no agreed upon script and no director and a lead actor who was dodgy on returning in the first place.

And a producer who seems more interested in doing non-Bond projects.

Meanwhile, Daniel Craig's newest non-007 movie, Kings, finished No. 24 at the U.S. box office this weekend with $173,000.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Napoleon Solo wrote:

Meanwhile, Daniel Craig's newest non-007 movie, Kings, finished No. 24 at the U.S. box office this weekend with $173,000.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

It was supposed to make more than Avengers

Napoleon Solo wrote:

Meanwhile, Daniel Craig's newest non-007 movie, Kings, finished No. 24 at the U.S. box office this weekend with $173,000.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Now that's not going to pay for the little one on the way.

Napoleon Solo wrote:

Meanwhile, Daniel Craig's newest non-007 movie, Kings, finished No. 24 at the U.S. box office this weekend with $173,000.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

Never even heard of it.

bitchcraft wrote:

Napoleon Solo wrote:

Meanwhile, Daniel Craig's newest non-007 movie, Kings, finished No. 24 at the U.S. box office this weekend with $173,000.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/

It was supposed to make more than Avengers

I don't think any Daniel Craig-led film outside the 007 series has made money; Craig hates Bond yet needs him to maintain his champagne socialist lifestyle. And Eon/MGM need Craig to sell the clapped-out franchise to a new distributor.

What's the opposite of a virtuous circle?

I had thought right from the start that things will change once he's becoming a father and today, it was finally in the media that Bond 25 will be postponed because Craig wants to be with his wife during her pregnancy. Which sounds like a lame excuse to me...

Probably he will get out now. Dangerous stunts; all the media attention; the "bad" reputation of Bond are not things he would want now.

Kath wrote:

I had thought right from the start that things will change once he's becoming a father .

Didn’t he become a father 25 years ago?

Yep, there's a daughter from his short-lived marriage in the early Nineties.

Hahaha, got me. I am not good at knowing the private lives of celebrities. Still I think having an infant might change his perception and priorities. As it already did...

Kath wrote:

Hahaha, got me. I am not good at knowing the private lives of celebrities. Still I think having an infant might change his perception and priorities. As it already did...

Means someone can stick a diaper in his mouth before he makes another gaffe by opening it.

I did watch about half of Skyfall last night on BBC America...getting my Bond groove back on

Hodge and Boyle confirmed by Variety as screenwriter and director respectivel. MGM to distribute in US; Universal in other territories

Quote :

Universal has won the rights to internationally distribute the upcoming Bond 25 film directed by Danny Boyle.

Daniel Craig will return as 007 and Boyle will direct from an original screenplay by John Hodge. The film will begin production December 3, and MGM will release the film in the United States on Nov. 8, 2019 through a partnership with Annapurna Pictures.

Universal will release the film in the U.K. Oct 25, 2019.

MGM will retain digital and worldwide television distribution rights. Universal will also handle physical home entertainment distribution.

“We are delighted to announce that the exceptionally talented Danny Boyle will be directing Daniel Craig in his fifth outing as James Bond in the 25th installment of the franchise,” said EON Productions’ Michael G. Wilson and Barbara Broccoli. “We will begin shooting ‘Bond 25’ at Pinewood Studios in December with our partners at MGM and are thrilled that Universal will be our international distributor.”

“Under the leadership of Michael and Barbara, we couldn’t be more thrilled than to bring the next 007 adventure to the big screen uniting the incomparable Daniel Craig with the extraordinary vision of Danny Boyle,” said MGM’s chairman of the board of directors Kevin Ulrich.

MGM films president Jonathan Glickman added, “It has been 16 years since ‘Die Another Day’ was distributed by MGM and it’s incredibly gratifying to be releasing this film alongside the powerhouse team at Universal.”

“Universal is extremely proud to collaborate with Michael, Barbara and MGM on the international marketing and distribution of ‘Bond 25,'” said chairman of Universal Pictures Donna Langley. “The unparalleled combination of Danny’s innovative filmmaking and Daniel’s embodiment of 007 ensured we simply had to be partners in the next chapter of this iconic series.”

http://variety.com/2018/film/news/bond-25-universal-international-rights-1202822141/

So what's the thought on Boyle and Hodge? I really know very little about them.

Ugh. 

Bring on Bond 26.

I'm not Boyle's biggest fan in the world, but they could do worse than him.
If the screenplay is good enough, it could be a decent film.
Provided that Daniel Craig actually shows up this time, unlike for "Spectre".
Considering he is only returning for the huge paycheck, I'm not very optimistic about that.

Sort of what Fields said. I'm not hugely excited. Just have to see.

Am reasonably optimistic.

Am chuckling at the MGM guy choosing to bring up Die Another Day as part of this announcement.