American politics

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

Sarai wrote:

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

And it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

You have probably already read all of this or know about it but nevertheless interesting




https://centerforaninformedamerica.com/inside-the-lc-the-strange-but-mostly-true-story-of-laurel-canyon-and-the-birth-of-the-hippie-generation-part-i/

The Nordstream thing is common belief among business class in Europe. But Hersh strikes me as a gullible mark who has written all manner of whatnot for a very long time (even if a few hits). I would believe this more if he hadn't been the one writing about it. I'm almost more interested in the meta story of what his sources were trying to accomplish or say in supplying him leaks (real or fake).

Sarai wrote:

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

I don't think anyone genuinely believed otherwise.

CJB wrote:

Sarai wrote:

How America Took Out The Nord Stream Pipeline

https://seymourhersh.substack.com/p/how-america-took-out-the-nord-stream

I don't think anyone genuinely believed otherwise.

No one with a brain, but of course the mass media call the claims "ludicrous".
No, it is your own claims, mass media, that are always ludicrous.

I hear that Biden is planning to run again for the presidency in 2024 which I must say I'm surprised about. Goodness knows what he'll be like by 2028, if he makes it that far of course.

If the regime wills it, Biden will be able to do even less campaigning than he did in 2020 and yet will end up with even more votes somehow.

I'm wondering if the spy balloon the US shot down was just Sam Smith trialling this outfit (that he wore to last night's Brit Awards) without having accounted for high winds. Or maybe it's a gimp suit and he has terrible flatulence.

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Looks like he was desperately trying to compete with the figure beside him.

How We Can Stop the Coming War With Russia

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/how-we-can-stop-the-coming-war-with-russia

We can't stop anything, even if we wanted to. The masses are powerless in the face of the Power Structure. We can only hope that, as the Power Structure decays because of its own irrationality, various sections of various western countries slip away and create their own societies. Of course, that all goes by the boards if the idiots in charge get us all nuked.

https://original.antiwar.com/john-v-walsh/2023/02/14/feb-19-national-rally-against-ukraine-war-and-threat-of-nuclear-holocaust/

First National Rally Against Ukraine War, Threat of Armageddon: Feb.19

I'm sure Putin is terrified by the prospect of that and will call the war off immediately.

Where did you get that was in any way their intent out of that article? It's Ron Paul protesting America's MIC and foreign entanglements, something he has done his entire career. It's about Julian Assange,ending all these wars,getting rid of the patriot act,the CIA, and restoring civil liberties to Americans. It's not meant to intimidate Putin.


https://rageagainstwar.com/#Demands

Perhaps Maeve has heard the word "unprovoked" one million times too many over the last year.
Is it not also peculiar how we hear every day how useless the Russian military is and how they are to lose soon, while on the other hand we need to spend some trillions more on weapons or they will take over all of Europe next?
People are asleep, and the powers that should not be more than anyone.

Phantom Commander wrote:

... on the other hand we need to spend some trillions more on weapons or they will take over all of Europe next?
People are asleep, and the powers that should not be more than anyone.

A lot of people's entire conception of history and geopolitics boils down to simplistic platitudes about 'Munich'/'Appeasement' etc. which has been invoked in every conflagration from Suez to Saddam.

Maeve Horton wrote:

I'm sure Putin is terrified by the prospect of that and will call the war off immediately.

Good one.

I'm more concerned about him being a 'bad loser' and wanting to sweep all the chess pieces off the board rather than concede -- especially if it looks like he is going to be ousted by his own folks. That was my biggest fear with Trump as well. And Reagan too, if you want to really go back a ways.

trevanian wrote:

Maeve Horton wrote:

I'm sure Putin is terrified by the prospect of that and will call the war off immediately.

Good one.

I'm more concerned about him being a 'bad loser' and wanting to sweep all the chess pieces off the board rather than concede -- especially if it looks like he is going to be ousted by his own folks. That was my biggest fear with Trump as well. And Reagan too, if you want to really go back a ways.

Russia is not going to lose, and between him, Biden and the Euro-lackeys, he's the sane and rational one. If anybody is likely to push the little red button, my money is on that doddering creep in the anti-White House.

And meanwhile, NATO has now amended its statutes and moved away from the defensive article 5 as a main principle. Which means a member state must not be attacked before they unleash their military might. It is now to be a coalition of willing countries that can go to war anywhere on any pretext. It has been that way for years, but now it has been formalised. The "defense" ministers recently signed this convention in Brussels.

Maeve Horton wrote:

Looks like he was desperately trying to compete with the figure beside him.

I should've used that pic in the caption thread.

Sarai wrote:

How We Can Stop the Coming War With Russia

http://www.ronpaullibertyreport.com/archives/how-we-can-stop-the-coming-war-with-russia

I have enjoyed Ron Paul frequently over the years and I understand he is merely trying to rally his troops but the appeal to protest using comparison with U.S. intervention in Iraq and U.S. intervention in Ukraine is, I think, at best lazy if only because in the first case the invader was Dubya and in the second it is...Putin.

trevanian wrote:

I'm more concerned about him being a 'bad loser' and wanting to sweep all the chess pieces off the board rather than concede -- especially if it looks like he is going to be ousted by his own folks. That was my biggest fear with Trump as well. And Reagan too, if you want to really go back a ways.

Putin already used a nuclear weapon on London when he turned Litvinenko into a dirty bomb with polonium. (Fuck Putin.)

So definitely he would use an actual nuke and naturally he wants us to know this.

"Luckily" there are enough leftover cold war procedures in place to avoid a hasty attack after he has a particularly long dark tea-time of the soul one afternoon. (And if there was a coup he'd better hope all those in the chain-of-command to the nuke codes were not part of it or were all in agreement about committing mass suicide.)

CJB wrote:

A lot of people's entire conception of history and geopolitics boils down to simplistic platitudes about 'Munich'/'Appeasement' etc. which has been invoked in every conflagration from Suez to Saddam.

Yes, we totally defeated Nazism in the 40s and have spent the last eighty years seeing its (Hitler's) shadow everywhere.

Though there are, I think, legitimate parallels coming together in a way that stands out, in terms of Europe at least, as it has not perhaps since then: like historical grievance as justification for territorial expansion, getting the West to blame itself for this, the question of where Western businesses involvement fits in, and so on.

But the people calling him Hitler are whacked. Someone like Napoleon more apt.

Putin and Russia have no more designs on general European conquest than an abalone does of composing a bassoon concerto. The fact is that, ever since the Cold War, the US, rather than treat Russia like an honored adversary that had been defeated, has kicked it while it's down, and through NATO expansion (with Ukrainian absorption part of the end game), aggressively moved toward its doorstep. The US, with Europe as its catspaw, has been poking the Russian bear relentlessly. The Ukrainian invasion was the response.

But then, the Ukraine has very little history as an independent nation, and a very long history as part of Russia. From the historical standpoint, it has scant justification for independence, and its complex relationship with Russia is none of the US' bloody business.