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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:55 am | |
| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11927517/Daniel-Craig-told-to-shut-up-and-stop-bashing-James-Bond.html His outburst was honestly, pathetic. I can't enjoy this film now without the overbearing shadow of this this idiotic tantrum in the press. Lousy, lousy timing and extremely unprofessional. You're supposed to market this film, encourage people to see it, not wipe your fucking ass with a role that has put you on the map. And what about the Royal premiere...will he be there ruining it for everyone? Really disgusted.In fact, fuck my ticket for opening night. And fuck you. |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:32 am | |
| - bitchcraft wrote:
- http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/celebritynews/11927517/Daniel-Craig-told-to-shut-up-and-stop-bashing-James-Bond.html
His outburst was honestly, pathetic. I can't enjoy this film now without the overbearing shadow of this this idiotic tantrum in the press. Lousy, lousy timing and extremely unprofessional.
You're supposed to market this film, encourage people to see it, not wipe your fucking ass with a role that has put you on the map.
And what about the Royal premiere...will he be there ruining it for everyone?
Really disgusted.In fact, fuck my ticket for opening night. And fuck you.
I think you may have buried the lead. Deep in the middle of the Page Six story it is also revealed that the film has been undergoing re-shoots within the past few weeks. Normally I wouldn't be alarmed by a re-shoot, but it appears that SONY went to much trouble to keep that part quiet, which tells me they are more concerned about the finished product than has been let on. For every WORLD WAR Z re-shoot that makes a film better there is a FANTASTIC FOUR re-shoot that does nothing but underscore how troubled the picture is. I said it last week: I believe Craig is " tranking" his own film; concerned it's going to be a critical/commercial letdown so he goes ahead and fires the first shot across the bow, trying to get out ahead of the story. Craig's nerves are the surest bell-weather/indicator that this film is in every bit of trouble as some of us have suspected. |
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Mr. Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 12:16 pm | |
| I'm not following this anymore. Why would he co-produce something as opposed to solely starring in it if he doesn't support it/like it?
It's probably all just publicity. Possibly drumming up the notion that he's had enough with the series so it'll lure cinema-goers in to see Craig as Bond one last time on the big screen. Only to then return again. Unfortunately.
I'm starting to like him less and less. Sure, Connery has slammed Bond, but it was due to the stalking that the Jap paparazzi did during YOLT's production, and the growing reliance on gadgets. He still appreciates DN, FRWL and TB. |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:40 pm | |
| - FieldsMan wrote:
- I'm not following this anymore. Why would he co-produce something as opposed to solely starring in it if he doesn't support it/like it?
It's probably all just publicity. Possibly drumming up the notion that he's had enough with the series so it'll lure cinema-goers in to see Craig as Bond one last time on the big screen. Only to then return again. Unfortunately.
I'm starting to like him less and less. Sure, Connery has slammed Bond, but it was due to the stalking that the Jap paparazzi did during YOLT's production, and the growing reliance on gadgets. He still appreciates DN, FRWL and TB. I could read you quotes out of EMPIRE Magazine from last summer where everyone connected to the new FANTASTIC FOUR was loving the movie, loving working with each other....but as soon as that film came ready to premiere, the leaks started, with people jockeying for position to be the first one to disavow the movie, and anything they contributed to it. By the first day of release, Josh Trank had gone on Twitter and basically threw his own movie under the bus. Don't think for one moment SONY hasn't been thinking of that situation and doing everything they can to avoid a repeat. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:21 pm | |
| The guy has always had hyperbolic sense of humor. He's done this over the years and the press as usual takes it seriously in order to stir things up, which has now upset Sony. When promoting COWBOYS & ALIENS he joked about trying to get out of the Bond gig. This is not close to a Trank situation. - FieldsMan wrote:
- I'm starting to like him less and less. Sure, Connery has slammed Bond, but it was due to the stalking that the Jap paparazzi did during YOLT's production, and the growing reliance on gadgets. He still appreciates DN, FRWL and TB.
The guy single handedly threw a wrench at the Oscars special for the 50th anniversary that would have brought all six Bonds on stage because he still holds a grudge over Broccoli and Saltzman. Had nothing to do with the Japanese press treating him badly. |
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Blunt Instrument 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 8:27 pm | |
| I find it best to take quotes attributed to anonymous sources with a sizeable pinch of salt. |
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Hilly Administrator
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 10:19 pm | |
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Control 00 Agent
Posts : 5206 Member Since : 2010-05-13 Location : Slumber, Inc.
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:25 pm | |
| Naomie Harris said his comments were taken out of context and that people aren't understanding his sarcasm: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3270904/He-ultimate-James-Bond-Spectre-star-Naomie-Harris-defends-Daniel-Craig-s-suicide-remark-claims-movie.html
Not sure if I believe it, but alright.
I've also read that Craig was fed up with a number of reshoots during the past couple of months, due to major changes in the script.
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
Posts : 7656 Member Since : 2011-03-14 Location : You're the man now, dog!
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Wed Oct 14, 2015 1:14 am | |
| Thing to remember is that working on a Bond film is hell. Just ask all the other Bonds who endured injuries on sets because of these productions. It's part of the reason Moore was considering stepping out of the role after MR and why rumors of a new Bond for FYEO were prevalent.
Craig has said he'll work as long as he's physically able to and once he reaches his limit that's when he's done. Most importantly, he says he wants to leave the series at a good place and for someone to pick it up and do better. That doesn't sound like a man who's trashing Bond films. |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Wed Oct 14, 2015 5:42 am | |
| - Makeshift Python wrote:
- The guy has always had hyperbolic sense of humor. He's done this over the years and the press as usual takes it seriously in order to stir things up, which has now upset Sony. When promoting COWBOYS & ALIENS he joked about trying to get out of the Bond gig. This is not close to a Trank situation.
Agreed about his being sarcastic. You might even chalk it up to the notoriously cheeky, dark sense of humor the Brits have. I get it, but that's because my exposure to British entertainment goes further than the Bond series. For millions of others around the world, some of whom don't even speak English and are having to have his words *literally* translated for them, this might come off confusing to them. Furthermore, I'm not totally convinced he was having a laugh when he said all this. Given numerous opportunities by the interviewer to clean up his comments and walk them back, Craig chose to dig in deeper. Can't blame the press for reporting on what he said; it's like throwing chum out into the water and then not expecting it to draw sharks. |
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lachesis Head of Station
Posts : 1588 Member Since : 2011-09-19 Location : Nottingahm, UK
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:49 am | |
| - Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
- Makeshift Python wrote:
- The guy has always had hyperbolic sense of humor. He's done this over the years and the press as usual takes it seriously in order to stir things up, which has now upset Sony. When promoting COWBOYS & ALIENS he joked about trying to get out of the Bond gig. This is not close to a Trank situation.
Agreed about his being sarcastic. You might even chalk it up to the notoriously cheeky, dark sense of humor the Brits have. I get it, but that's because my exposure to British entertainment goes further than the Bond series. For millions of others around the world, some of whom don't even speak English and are having to have his words *literally* translated for them, this might come off confusing to them.
Furthermore, I'm not totally convinced he was having a laugh when he said all this. Given numerous opportunities by the interviewer to clean up his comments and walk them back, Craig chose to dig in deeper. Can't blame the press for reporting on what he said; it's like throwing chum out into the water and then not expecting it to draw sharks. I'm British and often accused of being overly sarcastic but those comments don't strike me as sarcastic and in no way do I get the sense Mr Craig's humour is 'cheeky or dark'....that said I have a natural suspicion regarding such quotes and stories, the press love to stir, they love bad news and always seem to do their utmost to make a mountain out of a mole hill. Even away from this though I always get the impression the guy is a bit of a conceited A-hole...but he isn't alone - for the very best reasons actors are rarely asked just to go out play themselves thankfully. |
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AMC Hornet Head of Station
Posts : 1235 Member Since : 2011-08-18 Location : Station 'C' - Canada
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Wed Oct 14, 2015 11:17 pm | |
| All they have to do is drop the "Now?" from his statement and the rumour mill goes into overdrive. Which is why they consistently do it, of course. The man's tired. What do they expect? "Oh yes, I don't want to do anything else - just Bond movies. I'm eager to get right back in there, tomorrow. We don't have a script, but I want to do some more running and jumping - they can figure out what to do with it later. Any of you fanboys out there with your own scripts, send them to me. I'll pitch them to Sam, Barbara and Sony!" He's an actor, not a robot. |
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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
Posts : 3372 Member Since : 2011-03-28 Location : I know........I know
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Thu Oct 15, 2015 12:51 am | |
| - AMC Hornet wrote:
- All they have to do is drop the "Now?" from his statement and the rumour mill goes into overdrive.
Which is why they consistently do it, of course.
The man's tired. What do they expect? "Oh yes, I don't want to do anything else - just Bond movies. I'm eager to get right back in there, tomorrow. We don't have a script, but I want to do some more running and jumping - they can figure out what to do with it later. Any of you fanboys out there with your own scripts, send them to me. I'll pitch them to Sam, Barbara and Sony!"
He's an actor, not a robot.
Is it the type of thing you say one month before your newest film opens? To give the distinct impression you want nothing to do with the role anymore and couldn't care less who gets it after? That you'd only come back for the money? What next? Cut a promo and say you're just here for the paycheck? That you hate doing the role anymore? Sorry...but I attribute those kind of remarks to a complete moron. Humour or not, it was stupid. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Thu Oct 15, 2015 1:57 am | |
| Except he never says he's actually done with the role, all he said is that he needs a break before jumping back on that train, which is understandable considering these are Bond movies. |
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bitchcraft Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Thu Oct 15, 2015 4:16 am | |
| - Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
I think you may have buried the lead. Deep in the middle of the Page Six story it is also revealed that the film has been undergoing re-shoots within the past few weeks. Normally I wouldn't be alarmed by a re-shoot, but it appears that SONY went to much trouble to keep that part quiet, which tells me they are more concerned about the finished product than has been let on.
For every WORLD WAR Z re-shoot that makes a film better there is a FANTASTIC FOUR re-shoot that does nothing but underscore how troubled the picture is.
I said it last week: I believe Craig is "tranking" his own film; concerned it's going to be a critical/commercial letdown so he goes ahead and fires the first shot across the bow, trying to get out ahead of the story.
Craig's nerves are the surest bell-weather/indicator that this film is in every bit of trouble as some of us have suspected.
It escapes me right now...but have any other Bond films had reshoots mere weeks before opening day? |
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Gravity's Silhouette Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:25 am | |
| - bitchcraft wrote:
- Gravity's Silhouette wrote:
I think you may have buried the lead. Deep in the middle of the Page Six story it is also revealed that the film has been undergoing re-shoots within the past few weeks. Normally I wouldn't be alarmed by a re-shoot, but it appears that SONY went to much trouble to keep that part quiet, which tells me they are more concerned about the finished product than has been let on.
For every WORLD WAR Z re-shoot that makes a film better there is a FANTASTIC FOUR re-shoot that does nothing but underscore how troubled the picture is.
I said it last week: I believe Craig is "tranking" his own film; concerned it's going to be a critical/commercial letdown so he goes ahead and fires the first shot across the bow, trying to get out ahead of the story.
Craig's nerves are the surest bell-weather/indicator that this film is in every bit of trouble as some of us have suspected.
It escapes me right now...but have any other Bond films had reshoots mere weeks before opening day? Good question, and as a life-long Bond fan I should know this one. But I don't recall any film with any major re-shoots just weeks prior to the release because the scene was all wrong. Normally they're still working on the film days before release; actors coming in for ADR...editing..score...f/x....title credits being finalized...but can't ever recall a Bond film having to go back and start reshooting stuff they missed or got wrong the first time, or simply shooting additional scenes after the first cut of the film revealed major narrative holes that needed filling. I think we're in uncharted waters on this one. Look, I think Craig was just being a provocateur when he made those comments. He was probably tired and worn out and was helping the reporter out by giving him/her a hot quote that would get plenty of clicks online or eyeballs in print; I get that. But he's also a trained actor and a professional and should have had better answers for questions he knew were certain to come. His comments truly went viral and i believe that it rubbed SONY the wrong way at the wrong time; a studio already reeling from the damaging hack and leaks, the whiff of dissatisfaction with Sam Smith's song, an astronomical budget, a script that wasn't ready (trust no one that tells you it was) and some whispers coming off the set that the movie is just average and not among the better Bonds. When the reviews first break over in England, we're likely to find a collective yawn amongst fans and critics alike that this film should have been better. Too much talent wasted. I think THAT is what has got SONY so guarded and on edge right now. I'm thinking of a couple of films that went into reshoots (normally because a test audience was confused or didn't like the movie) and they include: SLIVER (1993), PAN (2015) AND WORLD WAR Z (2013) and FANTASTIC FOUR (2015) Obviously there are more, but those are off the top of my head. Sliver's reshoots were so dramatic that it eliminated an entire subplot about a volcano (which was referenced earlier in the film) and the identity of the killer was changed at the last minute, rendering everything that came before it almost moot. The film bombed. PAN was doing reshoots this summer but it didn't help. The film is a huge bomb in the U.S. Same with FANTASTIC FOUR. I guess it depends upon what the reasons were for the additional shooting, but you gotta think that if they didn't know what they wanted or needed with 3 years of prep time, a few more days ain't gonna make the problem go away. |
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Makeshift Python 00 Agent
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lachesis Head of Station
Posts : 1588 Member Since : 2011-09-19 Location : Nottingahm, UK
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Thu Oct 15, 2015 3:16 pm | |
| Given the rate of production Dr No through Thunderball I think entire films might have been considered last minute shooting in today's parlance ^^.
Is it perhaps a case that without external delays being enforced (legal action, direction changes etc) the schedule is simply too tight and production issues are all but inevitable and surely part and parcel of any busy actors job? |
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Prisoner Monkeys Potential 00 Agent
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| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:01 am | |
| I wonder if Craig's criticisms have more to do with Sony's management of the project than anything else. One of the recurring themes of the e-mails published by the GOP hack was constant interference and attempts at micro-management by Sony; the example that stands out in my mind was their instruction to shoot a train with three cars rather than four because four was too expensive. |
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Napoleon Solo 'R'
Posts : 236 Member Since : 2011-09-07
| Subject: Re: Was Craig told to shut his fooking piehole? Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:30 am | |
| - Prisoner Monkeys wrote:
- I wonder if Craig's criticisms have more to do with Sony's management of the project than anything else. One of the recurring themes of the e-mails published by the GOP hack was constant interference and attempts at micro-management by Sony; the example that stands out in my mind was their instruction to shoot a train with three cars rather than four because four was too expensive.
That was from an MGM executive. It showed up in the Sony hacks because the Sony executives were copied on it. http://money.cnn.com/2014/12/10/technology/security/bond-movie-budget/ |
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