Once Upon A Time In Hollywood

https://www.indiewire.com/2018/06/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood-first-look-leonardo-dicaprio-brad-pitt-tarantino-1201979053/

Looking forward to this one. Margot and Tarantino seem like a match made in heaven.

Tarantino making a movie about the Manson family and the Sharon Tate murder could be disastrous, but I can't say I'm not curious to see what he makes of it.

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

FieldsMan wrote:

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

I mean to say that the subject matter probably needs a filmmaker of subtlety and sensitivity.

Neither of which I would choose to describe Quentin Tarantino or his work with.

FieldsMan wrote:

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

Dawn to Dusk--or is it Dusk to Dawn?--is one of the most dreadful films I've inflicted upon myself. I bowed out about two thirds of the way through.

Perilagu Khan wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

Dawn to Dusk--or is it Dusk to Dawn?--is one of the most dreadful films I've inflicted upon myself. I bowed out about two thirds of the way through.

That one is directed by Robert Rodriguez, not Quentin Tarantino though.
Though he did write the screenplay and act in it.
I'm using the word acting kindly here.

Salomé wrote:

Perilagu Khan wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

Dawn to Dusk--or is it Dusk to Dawn?--is one of the most dreadful films I've inflicted upon myself. I bowed out about two thirds of the way through.

That one is directed by Robert Rodriguez, not Quentin Tarantino though.
Though he did write the screenplay and act in it.
I'm using the word acting kindly here.

Ah. OK. Thanks, Sabs.

Salomé wrote:

FieldsMan wrote:

I don't know about disastrous... Even his lesser films have been nothing short of competent.

I mean to say that the subject matter probably needs a filmmaker of subtlety and sensitivity.

Neither of which I would choose to describe Quentin Tarantino or his work with.

Yeah ... even as recently as The Hateful Eight, he couldn't resist including exploding-head gore.

First look at Margot Robbie as Sharon Tate.

An amalgam of classic Sharon Tate looks?





I still think that this has the potential to be disastrous if Quentin Tarantino approaches this with his usual level of sensitivity.

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Child of extreme privilege Lena Dunham becoming one of the few female showrunners and a feminist icon is really one of the many ways in which the movement self-owns.

Even more amazing: Maya Hawke got offered and accepted a job on this film. She is a grown woman so I'm sure that Uma Thurman will have little say into what she does or doesn't do but if I almost got very seriously injured or worse on a shoot with a director I only recently accused of recklessness, do I want my daughter to work with him?

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Erica Ambler wrote:

Just when you though this couldn't get any worse; Lena Dunham to star.

Ha. Tarantino and Dunham--a match made in the ninth level of hell. I can only assume Jay Z and Beyonce will figure in this whole sordid and rancid affair at some point.

Looks fun.

Have to say that trailer did get me genuinely excited for the film. The music, the setting, I can tell already Brad and Leo are going to make a great pairing and the overall vibe I'm getting from it is that it has the classic Tarantino feel but could be a different enough affair from his more recent movies (which I do really like, don't get me wrong) it's going to be something more akin to Jackie Brown in that we may get something of a different pacing. I'm also just glad to see a new Tarantino film set in Los Angeles, his old stomping grounds. His first three films had a good eye for gritty L.A. locations and even with a more Hollywood-centered setting I don't think this will be any different.

Reminds me of the Coens' HAIL, CAESAR! only set in the late 60s. Should be a fun lark.

The trailer has heightened my personal desire to see it as well. To my surprise, honestly.

The trailer is breezy fun, although obviously with Manson and Sharon Tate involved things will take a very dark turn.

Cautiously optimistic, although my arse still remembers the numbed boredom it suffered due to The Hateful Eight and it still hasn't forgiven QT.

A 7 minute standing ovation at Cannes and 91% Rotten Tomatoes rating with the first reviews out.

Here's one:

https://www.timeout.com/us/film/once-upon-a-time-in-hollywood

Just what I wanted to hear.

I haven't seen it yet but I am baffled by some of the reactions.

People have written pieces in defense of the Manson Family because of this film.

The world has truly gone mad.

Hmm haven't stumbled across any of that yet. Only really seen positive reactions to it.

If that's the case then yes, the world has indeed gone that way.

I wouldn't be a bit surprised by any of those reactions, being as we're living in the Age of Crackpot History and the Right to Lie....

I'm going Thursday to watch OUATIH....I don't know why being as I thought Django, Inglourious Basterds and Death Proof were such dog shit films......Oddly, I really enjoyed The Hateful Eight.....

But, I'll give the new flick a view being as I used to live in California and I find California of the late 60's a very interesting subject.

Salomé wrote:

I haven't seen it yet but I am baffled by some of the reactions.

People have written pieces in defense of the Manson Family because of this film.

The world has truly gone mad.

Can't say I've come across that sentiment about the Manson family specifically, but what I've come across was mainly concerns over how Tarantino continues to gleefully depict violence against women. Having seen the film myself, I can imagine anyone walking into this film with zero knowledge of the Manson Family would be totally put off by Brad Pitt repeatedly smashing a woman's face in a brick mantel while Leo torches a woman with a flamethrower. The male character does get his balls chomped up by a dog before Brad Pitt curbstomps his face in, but the film doesn't really linger on the violence against him as it does on the two women.

This movie very much assumes that you would know the real life accounts of 1969 Hollywood. I personally only have a vague idea of who Sharon Tate was and how she was murdered, so anyone walking into this film not knowing who she was at all will just walk out confused over why Margot Robbie was in such a minimal role.

The reasoning is that we have to perceive Atkins and Krenwinkel as "victims" of Manson himself.

Ignoring the fact that he had plenty of followers who wouldn't kill for him and the fact that they carried out the murders with a level of cruelty and glee that is hard to process.